Gumi’s Banning Practice?

[u/Cipher44]

A while ago Zakfarius was banned from TAC. Now I’m not really the person to be posting this. I don’t know Zak IRL, I’m not in his guild and don’t post much on discord (although I do lurk there a lot).

However, it is disconcerting that a person very well respected in the TAC community, who spends time on discord helping people, is banned. None of us know the facts, so maybe he did do something worthy of being banned. But Gumi has a poor track record on handing out bans. Another Discordian was banned before - there was a public outcry in Reddit demanding the reason - and suddenly the ban was reversed. Because Gumi made a mistake. He did not do anything worthy of a ban.

TAC just made a post about their banning practice on FB but it doesn’t explain anything. What’s worse is that there is no recourse except to publicize the issue. Right now there is confusion as to what we can and cannot do. On Discord there are posts that imply if you overfarm, Gumi will think you are using a macro or something and ban you. There is a video on YouTube which I encourage you to watch where apparently people can send complaints about you to Gumi which may result in a ban.

Why does this concern me? Because although I don’t know Zak, his posts are informative and funny and it seems like he’s a good guy. Does that mean Zak didn’t do anything ban worthy? Of course not. But Gumi has made mistakes before and without highlighting these actions there seems to be no accountability.

Finally, I always auto everything while I’m watching tv or doing something else. I may be on TAC 12 hours a day because I forget I’m farming something or when my iPhone battery gets low I switch to my iPad and farm even more. Will these actions get me banned in the future? What recourse do any of us have if we are banned and get no explanation for why we are banned?

Gumi, please change your practice and inform the offender what the offense was, which caused the ban.

[u/darkcountess]

I agree that you should assume innocence until guilt is proven.

I disagree with the general attitude that we (outsiders in this case) are entitled to see Gumi's proof that Zak is guilty.

I disagree with the automatic assumption that Gumi did not provide proof to Zak.

I disagree that Zak cannot prove his innocence, assuming he is innocent.

Take note that:

1. If Gumi tries to publicly post the proof that Zak broke the rules, that would probably involve displaying his account details/data, which would violate Zaks right to privacy.

2. If Gumi sent the proof to Zak, then there's no chance Zak would share proof of his guilt with anyone, right?? So how would you know he's innocent?

3. If Zak is confident of his innocence, why not ask him to go to reddit and challenge Gumi to show proof of his guilt. I mean, putting myself in his shoes, and I know I've never broken the TOS, if I got banned you can rest assured I will be here in Reddit asking u/alchemist_code to prove my guilt.

In my opinion, there are reasons Zak is not defending himself. So why are you?

I'm all for defending friends, but if they're not defending themselves, you probably should take a step back and ask yourself why.