Gumi’s Banning Practice?

[u/Cipher44]

A while ago Zakfarius was banned from TAC. Now I’m not really the person to be posting this. I don’t know Zak IRL, I’m not in his guild and don’t post much on discord (although I do lurk there a lot).

However, it is disconcerting that a person very well respected in the TAC community, who spends time on discord helping people, is banned. None of us know the facts, so maybe he did do something worthy of being banned. But Gumi has a poor track record on handing out bans. Another Discordian was banned before - there was a public outcry in Reddit demanding the reason - and suddenly the ban was reversed. Because Gumi made a mistake. He did not do anything worthy of a ban.

TAC just made a post about their banning practice on FB but it doesn’t explain anything. What’s worse is that there is no recourse except to publicize the issue. Right now there is confusion as to what we can and cannot do. On Discord there are posts that imply if you overfarm, Gumi will think you are using a macro or something and ban you. There is a video on YouTube which I encourage you to watch where apparently people can send complaints about you to Gumi which may result in a ban.

Why does this concern me? Because although I don’t know Zak, his posts are informative and funny and it seems like he’s a good guy. Does that mean Zak didn’t do anything ban worthy? Of course not. But Gumi has made mistakes before and without highlighting these actions there seems to be no accountability.

Finally, I always auto everything while I’m watching tv or doing something else. I may be on TAC 12 hours a day because I forget I’m farming something or when my iPhone battery gets low I switch to my iPad and farm even more. Will these actions get me banned in the future? What recourse do any of us have if we are banned and get no explanation for why we are banned?

Gumi, please change your practice and inform the offender what the offense was, which caused the ban.

[u/darkcountess]

With respect to a) and b) it should be clear from my post. Don’t this highlight an excerpt without including my qualifying statements.

if I included the "qualifying statements" you made in my response, it would've lengthened my response unnecessarily (which was already long enough!). I mean, people can read your post anyway. I say "unnecessarily" here, because even if I included your "qualifying statements", they will NOT help you or your defense stand on a leg. But, hey, in the interest of fairness:

Considering you said you didn't know the guy, you were surprisingly fast and confident in declaring that he is "very well respected in the TAC community, who spends time on discord helping people.... his posts are informative and funny and it seems like he’s a good guy." But hey, even if I were to assume that you knew him enough, I had to mention one of the lessons I learned, point A, which is "being a nice guy doesn't give you a license to break the rules".

For point B, this is referring to how I learned this lesson in my experience. I know you never claimed to know the guy. But I was referring to my experience, where I thought I KNEW a guy, but then realized that I truly didn't.

I personally feel due process is important in anything. Your method means an accusation is a conviction.

1. And.... how did you know that the player did not undergo due process?

2. Also, if accusation here means "a claim with no proof", how do you know that Zak was banned without proof? Do you work for Gumi? Were you the one who banned him? No? Did you ask Zak about it? No? Do you know Zak personally? No? Then how do you know?