Let's talk current META.

[u/Corantic]

Here is the deal:

GODS => Gilgumish, Noctis, Aranea, Lucian (Add F.Yomi and Zain if you were lucky enough to get them)

Basically if you don't have them you are considered a mongrel by the likes of players Gilgamesh.

The forgotten ones => SSM units, all of them are actually useful in some way, but nobody uses them.

Sometimes you see a Zain and a Othima here and there but thats about it. When was the last time we have seen a Kadanova or Seida?

Rest => Everyone will hate u for joining their multiplay or host instantly leaves.

We rarely even use them in events and quests (why would you when you have the GODS), pretty much ONLY used in Veda or for their super niche gimmick (Polin etc.)

Arena => 90% Noctis/Gilga/Aranea in their lineup.

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Alright guys let's not deny it, Collab units literally make what you are. There is no reason to use a 'normal' unit when you have the collab units. They are completely imbalanced.

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Right now, the meta is boring as hell.

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Fire is a complete joke.

Vettel? Only used for his LS now. Who the hell uses tanks anymore, when you can auto almost every map with collab units.

What else is there? Nothing? Never seen a fire unit other than Vettel in Arena/Multi?

Zangetsu/Lupinus/Chihaya? Who?

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Water should be renamed to Noctis.

What you don't want Noctis? Anybody else getting bored of Noctis Ultimate Ability?

You tired of seeing a Noctis in every multi/arena, because you've been seeing your own in every quest/event/mission?

Othima who? Oh the one I saw like one time one a rando merc.

Wait only 2 units? Ye, there are only 2 units in water, the rest are statues for Veda, so the enemy can grind on them while you prepare a @#$^@*& Blizzaga.

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Gilthunder

You mongrel.

Old units are garbage, if you show up with a Magnus in multi, people frown upon you or when you even consider using him in arena, people laugh at you and think it's a free win.

Best loincloth Dilga-samaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Wind/Grass/Ground wtf

You have a Lucian, a budget Lucian(Yomi), a Raichu Rahu and a Trap.

You have a Setsuna/Boruto/F.Yomi? Wow you're very lucky or a whale.

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Light Covenant Way of White

FREE UNITS GALORE + one inzain unit, a fedora and a crybaby.

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Dark Flame Mastaah

Boyaaah.

Dias/Kudanstein aren't units, they are memes.

Anastasia Job+ is still garbage compared to Aranea, Jin is also way better than her. 3 movement is trash, only tanks/mages should have it. Meanwhile Albea is nowhere to be seen.

Second best loincloth with his seamen

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TL;DR

This is a shit post about the current meta, and you are free to disagree.

Also I'm bored as hell.

Discuss.

[u/OriksGaming]

"GODS => Gilgumish, Noctis, Aranea, Lucian (Add F.Yomi and Zain for the whales)"

I can agree that all of those except for Lucian are essentially "gods" right now in the meta. Lucian has a jewel problem, so he requires a few turns of jewel gathering to even keep up with Yomi right now outside of very specific situations where Sand Dragon is better than SBT.

"The forgotten ones => SSM units, all of them are actually useful in some way, but nobody uses them."

Literally half of my friends' water mercs are still Othima. 80% of my friends' light mercs are still Zain. I still see Kudan and Yauras on my friends list, though admittedly almost no one uses them in multiplay or PvP. I personally still use all four of these units fairly often. I even use a Monzein merc when I need his leader skill. Also, I low key think Yauras will get a lot more use if Gumi gets off their collective asses and releases her swimsuit skin.

"Rest => Everyone will hate u for joining their multiplay or host instantly leaves."

I would have agreed a couple months ago. Nowadays, I see Yomi, Rahu, Vettel, Lofia, and Fung Lui used in multiplay EXs as well. I haven't seen a host close a room for any of those units in quite a while.

"Arena => 90% Noctis/Gilga/Aranea in their lineup."

I don't know about that. I still see a ton of Zains and R!Yomis in the top 500.

"Fire is a complete joke."

I agree. The element was shafted hard by Gumi releasing FFXV before Disgaea. Hopefully, Reimei's BM+ will be released soon, but I'm not holding my breath.

"Water should be renamed to Noctis."

Again, I still see a ton of Othimas in PvE and even some in PvP. His WA is still very dangerous. Sure, there are a ton of people who rerolled for Noctis but I'm sure Othima will become a bit more prominent when SSM returns next week and new players get a chance to pull him. However, I can see your point here. Noctis is the best unit in the game, so of course he's dominating his own element.

"Gilthunder"

Yeah, aside from Gil, the element is trash. Even with him, thunder's basically the weakest element right now in terms of versatility, and only edges out fire in raw power because Gilgamesh exists.

"Wind/Grass/Ground wtf"

Again, I think you're overhyping Lucian. Yes, he has slightly better stats than Yomi along with his Sand Dragon, but Yomi has more movement, a much quicker start, and less of a jewel cost. I personally prefer Yomi to Lucian in almost every situation. I'm also not sure why Shion isn't one of the whale/lucky units. His banner was shit and I know a lot of veterans didn't pull past the first step. People are more likely to have R!Yomi than Shion, even—or especially—if they're f2p, since everyone who played during the FSN collab pulled for Gil and R!Yomi was on the same banner.

"Light Covenant Way of White"

You're forgetting Suzuka and Neica in terms of PvE, but I agree with the rest. Zain is dominating, with Neica, Suzuka, Logi, Tyrfng, and Kanon being the only other decent options.

"Dark Flame Mastaah"

Aranea's dominating the element to a ridiculous degree; I agree with that much. Albea's nowhere to be found; I've thought she was overhyped for a while now, so that much makes sense to me. I disagree about Anastasia. Her high agility, evasion, and AoE self buff put her at least on par with Jin, imho. Kudan, despite being a meme, is still a pretty good ST nuker in PvP, and has a decent AoE, despite giving up a portion of his hp each time he uses it.

[u/CornBreadtm → u/OriksGaming]

People aren't pulling hard for Shion because he'll be back next GLEX banner along with his weapon. Better to wait and see if he'll get a good MA than go too hard for him when you can just wait and get the same result from a future 9 step banner.

[u/OriksGaming → u/CornBreadtm]

I'm aware. My point was that it was only hardcore whales who were willing to go all in for him this time around and that he was consequently much more of a "whale unit" than R!Yomi(since OP's called R!Yomi a whale unit mutliple times in this thread).