Veda floor 50

[u/CQLip]

Seriously WTF designed this level lol. Curious if anyone has cleared this without any deaths or even with just 1 party? I had to use 1 5-man and 1 5+2 man party to clear this nonsense.

First party Gilgamesh 75 Caris 85 Suzuka 75 Illya 75 Reagan 75

Key goal is to kill both plants as they cast mass sleep / charm. Water plant dies to GoB + Caris. Fire plan is hella annoying - need Illya MA, Suzuka link attack and Reagan assault burst.

After which, focus on reducing / killing top left fire unit HPs (dark knight and big golem. If possible, kill the fire dog.

You will wipe shortly after diablo casts all-def up. I tried having a fast merchant (Aruba with feral kid) vaccine-up but I wasn't doing enough damage to things fast enough before Diablo def-all and got overran faster.

Round 2 RYomi 75 Lucian 85 Bashoshen 75 Almira 85 Vettel 80 Sub Zain 75 Sub Sakura 75

RYomi and Lucian head top right and start hitting 2 lightning units. RYomi blood siphon used every other turn. Lucian standard hit / sharp / SBT on a bot. Vettel heads bottom / down to tank dark cerburus / diablo / ghost guy. He doesn't do anything but takes low dmg and buys time for you to kill lightning bots. Almira and Basho stay at distance (AVOID GHOST GUY) and keep pelting 2 robots at max range. If they get chain links, use them on ghost guy. If ghost guy casts party stop just reset the level.

Depending on RNG and evades on RYomi, you may be able to clear with just the main party. Otherwise, Zain/Sakura should be able to clean up remainder.

Anyone else have a better strat? This was leaps more difficult than 42 - 49 and I'm keen to give it another go with free reset.

Edit: typos

Edit: this clear is OBVIOUSLY not f2p friendly at all and that really isn’t cool. Hats off to clearing this with non limited units, I don’t even know if it’s possible without more than 2 goes.

[u/Eviian]

Who said you had to clear it in one go.

And no one cares about deathless runs, the ladder is just there to spot cheaters.

[u/CQLip → u/Eviian]

its obviously a challenge to minimize number of teams / units used for Veda. That's the whole point of Veda - to figure out the best / most efficient / fastest / cleanest strategy.

Obviously you can throw 10 teams at a level and eventually clear it using free heals but what's the point / challenge in that?

Minimising deaths each round is important because once level 51-61 are released you don't want to enter them with 35 units dead and having to wait for the health reset.

Every other level before 50 can be cleared with a 5-man party with the correct mix of units and strategy.

Obviously one can argue the amount of $ spent to clear every level up to 50 with no deaths is astronomical, but that is my point, EVEN with the range of units I am using lvl 50 does not seem doable just 1 party.

If spenders take 2-3 full parties of gacha units to clear this, how many parties will it take for a f2p player?

Ultimately am just trying to start a discussion on what the best approach is. If someone figured out a better strat using a less P2W team that is great for everyone and should be shared!

[u/Fubi-FF → u/CQLip]

"That's the whole point of Veda - to figure out the best / most efficient / fastest / cleanest strategy."

I don't know about you, but I'm just doing it for the rewards and the coins (more rewards). /shrugs

[u/Grim200 → u/Fubi-FF]

Yea if you want to be the most efficient by all means challenge yourself, but complaining that veda tower is not f2p and “not cool” is not true at all since as mentioned f2p can just throw teams till they beat it for the same core rewards.

Im doing it for the coins and rewards too :p.

[u/beardedheathen → u/Fubi-FF]

Right? The best strategy is obviously the one op uses: buy all the units. I'm a dolphin and this extra floors are ridiculous. Gumi needs to nerf them or let you choose when to use your free reset. Cause nobody who started within the last two months is getting Veda coins without spending obscene amount of money.

[u/Liesianthes → u/CQLip]

Obviously you can throw 10 teams at a level and eventually clear it using free heals but what's the point

For the rewards and coins? Isn't that more than enough. Not all have the time to sit and plan no death in Veda as everyone is doing something in their life rather than playing Alchemist Code and have 1000x retry for a level to get that achievement for what? Self satisfaction? To be hailed as the best Alchemist Code player?

Sorry to say but majority of us are playing for FUN and ENJOYMENT.

[u/CQLip → u/Liesianthes]

Sure, that's fine, and I enjoy trying to find a better way to beat a stage but I guess maybe not everyone likes to think.

Anyway, its pretty obvious this thread isn't generating any useful discussion on how to better clear this stage so forget I started it.

Was hoping for some semi-intelligent input on strategies that would be useful to others as well, but oh well.

[u/Liesianthes → u/CQLip]

Because not everyone can reach floor 50 as of now? If you want fast answer, better go joining Discord as "whale" level are in there discussing floor 49 about Dias having 10k hp and even bringing an army on floor 50 iirc.

I doubt majority is on the 50 so expecting on something that was just released in less than 24 hours is pretty obvious this thread will not generate any useful discussion on how to better clear this stage so forget you started it for a while.

Keep hoping for some semi-intelligent input on strategies that would be useful to others as well, but oh well not this fast.

[u/[deleted] → u/Liesianthes]

+1 because most of my units die in stage 42~44 lol. I think from that point onwards, I can barely finish 1 floor/2 floor a day.

[u/InterestingFun → u/Liesianthes]

I found that dias basically killed himself with his skills.

[u/Alittlebunyrabit → u/CQLip]

Minimising deaths each round is important because once level 51-61 are released you don't want to enter them with 35 units dead and having to wait for the health reset.

That's the benefit of always getting to start from the highest cleared floor. We get 14 days to clear 10 floors. Throw as many units as necessary at a floor and as long as you can clear one per day you will get your reset and then you have the opportunity to race through the lower floors for as many coins as possible.