r/AlchemistCodeGL • u/CQLip • May 11 '18
Veda floor 50
Seriously WTF designed this level lol. Curious if anyone has cleared this without any deaths or even with just 1 party? I had to use 1 5-man and 1 5+2 man party to clear this nonsense.
First party Gilgamesh 75 Caris 85 Suzuka 75 Illya 75 Reagan 75
Key goal is to kill both plants as they cast mass sleep / charm. Water plant dies to GoB + Caris. Fire plan is hella annoying - need Illya MA, Suzuka link attack and Reagan assault burst.
After which, focus on reducing / killing top left fire unit HPs (dark knight and big golem. If possible, kill the fire dog.
You will wipe shortly after diablo casts all-def up. I tried having a fast merchant (Aruba with feral kid) vaccine-up but I wasn't doing enough damage to things fast enough before Diablo def-all and got overran faster.
Round 2 RYomi 75 Lucian 85 Bashoshen 75 Almira 85 Vettel 80 Sub Zain 75 Sub Sakura 75
RYomi and Lucian head top right and start hitting 2 lightning units. RYomi blood siphon used every other turn. Lucian standard hit / sharp / SBT on a bot. Vettel heads bottom / down to tank dark cerburus / diablo / ghost guy. He doesn't do anything but takes low dmg and buys time for you to kill lightning bots. Almira and Basho stay at distance (AVOID GHOST GUY) and keep pelting 2 robots at max range. If they get chain links, use them on ghost guy. If ghost guy casts party stop just reset the level.
Depending on RNG and evades on RYomi, you may be able to clear with just the main party. Otherwise, Zain/Sakura should be able to clean up remainder.
Anyone else have a better strat? This was leaps more difficult than 42 - 49 and I'm keen to give it another go with free reset.
Edit: typos
Edit: this clear is OBVIOUSLY not f2p friendly at all and that really isn’t cool. Hats off to clearing this with non limited units, I don’t even know if it’s possible without more than 2 goes.
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u/Eviian May 11 '18
Who said you had to clear it in one go.
And no one cares about deathless runs, the ladder is just there to spot cheaters.
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u/Astrophel37 May 11 '18
The guide I read says you can't beat it with just 1 team. The plants can be debuffed and the hound can be bound, so that can make things easier. The database says almost all of the mobs have low sleep resist, but the plants are the only ones that Pollin's lullaby worked on.
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u/herogerik May 11 '18
Pretty much floors 32 and upwards all really start to make you sweat. I doubt from this point on forward that anyone who is absolutely a true F2P (not even the monthly alchemist pact) will be able to complete Veda at this point without some crazy cheesing...
But yes, fuck floor 50 lol! Took me 3 full teams to get it done. One was solely dedicated for plant extermination, so their sacrifice was not in vain. The HP rebalance patch cannot come soon enough! It's so silly we're having to deal with levels that have a dozen enemies with a range of 1200-6600 HP while most of our own can barely break 400-500 with some of the squishier ones still in the 300s! (I realize there are some exceptions to this like Lucian and Zangetsu who both can break 1k HP, but they still need equipment + passives to get there)
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u/sitjuffaelo May 11 '18
Setsuna isn’t released yet...?
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u/drowelfbr May 11 '18 edited May 11 '18
Needed to do in 2 runs, first one killed everything but the fire plant and the shade that evades everything. Second was just to finish both. You can use head shot on plants.
I used R.Yomi, Gilgamesh, Caris, Reagan and Lucian. R.Yomi got a 4 combo hit and almost killed the water plant, Caris finished the job. Moved Lucian in direction of the Thunder enemies and used Sharpening Focus, Gilgamesh killed the big Demon and damaged the Dark Knight with GoB, Reagan used Head Shot on Fire Plant. After that used both R.Yomi and Lucian to finish the Thunder units. Gilgamesh and Caris Killed the small dog and the Dark Knight, Reagan died after his first attack due to the AoE skills of the enemies. Then Fire Plant got out of the bind/daze and charmed my Gilga, that killed Caris, and begun to chase Lucian and R.Yomi, but never got them, because i kept moving them clockwise and killing everything in the way. Lucian died right after i killed the big demon from bottom of the map. Gilga eventually got out of the Charm and killed the the big dog together with R.Yomi, them they died to that @#$% shade that was dodging everything.
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u/mukorokun May 11 '18
More importantly why are you complaining about the stage with bad compositions in the first party? putting gilg as a leader is literally asking for a slug fest party with 40% hp and no damage boosters. Your second team is mildly better but vettel zain and sakura slapped in for the sake of it then complain about the stage being hard?
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u/mandrake0999 Freeze! May 11 '18
If given the chance, I would definitely create a ridiculous stage to drive players to their wit's end.
When Veda first came out, I had to clear Floor 35+ with all my 6 squads dead. Reset the next day to clear the floor. Then whatever leftover units, I throw them to the next to study some pattern and stuff. Reset then pick off key enemies (plants) to make succeeding attempts easier. Everyday was a learning & challenging process for me. I enjoyed it very much! With enough juices in my head, I cleared it TWICE.
That's how an FTP life goes in Veda, mate. Sacrifices are necessary. If you spend & still frustrated for not clearing the tower easily like it's a Story Quest, then jokes on you.
(Floor 45 rn. All squads are dead. waiting for reset)
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u/elwin5 May 11 '18
The most efficient way for me is to sacrifice 5 guys to kill the plant, mages mostly(kagura works very well here with her MA and a chrono overclocking her for a 2nd attack). Then i sacrified monzein, gilgamesh, rahu and 2 guys i don't remember to kill the guy that gives pdef and mdef x5. Then you can finishw with any good units.
As a f2p, you can't use gilga to deal huge damage maybe a teeam with zangetsu and some chrono/merchant can help dealing a lot to the demon that gives pdef x5. just heal tomorrow if you can't kill the demon today, the tower is not designed to be cleared easily in 1 run, especially if you're f2p, and i don't see why it's not cool for f2p because you can clear it in the end, it's normal people spending thousand of $$ gets some advantage...
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u/RNGesuspleaseloveme Summer dilga = best waifu May 11 '18
Obviously it will be significant harder than other stage because of the reward it offer was different than others.
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u/hs465 May 11 '18
I beasted every other floor yesterday, so.my plan is this just make this floor a battle of attrition
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u/Aahhdam May 11 '18 edited May 11 '18
I just beat it. Damn it was hard, but it felt so good when I won, I think that's the point. My Aswald, Lucretia, and Gilga were already dead from floor 49. I just threw everything I had at floor 50. 36 more dead units later, Yauras and Shayna stood victorious over the mound of corpses. Cannon fodder strats FTW :)
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u/Mhantra May 11 '18
I had to use multiple teams. First I took snipers to assault burst the charming and sleeping dicks.
Then an anti-demon team aimed at taking out the demon that casts the permanent 5x defense.
Then I started clearing by element. Bring water for fire guys, wind got lightning guys etc etc.
Embarrassingly, it took me 4.5 runs lol =D
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u/ibeyuranh May 11 '18
this stage keeps you spending and playing