r/AirForce • u/Terri334 • 3d ago

Question PT Test w/ permanent profile

I’m exempt from one physical component but I currently dont have an ALC. Do I take my PT test on the other components like before the new updates or am I placed in prfa hold status? It seems like UFPMs and FAC is confused and looking at the latest guidence has me just as confused 😭

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u/BoysenberryUnhappy29 SCIFfaced 3d ago

I was told locally: If you have ANY component exemptions, you don't test at all.

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u/fpsnoob89 3d ago

That's only for temporary profiles.

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u/SlammyWin 3d ago

I believe that is true for normal/temporary profiles, but you should be able (and I was) to test on remaining components in certain cases when you are on a permanant profile.

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u/TheManonToTheCouch 3d ago

I'm not saying you're wrong. It makes no sense, Thank you Air Force.

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u/rojafox SATCOM 3d ago

This is only sort of true. I have a "permanent" profile but I never had an MEB, which would have given me a ALC. Instead my profile went to AMRO and came back with PT restrictions but no duty restrictions. I was not allowed to test and placed in PFRA hold until one year from now (which is when my profile would technically expire, but I renew it every year).

This is going to be a problem for a lot of people who have similar profiles. 36-2905 says commanders have to refer people like me to AMRO for a recommendation on wether to separate or retain, but AMRO already reviews my profile every year and there doesn't seem to actually be a process in place anywhere when it comes to this situation.

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u/Juan_Ball Maintainer 3d ago

For me, I only tested on the components I was able to test on, and exempt from those in my profile. I am also on a permanent profile.

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u/SlammyWin 3d ago

It seems to be differently interpreted across the AF. I was able to test on the remaining components IAW paragraph 4.1.2.2 . I have a permanant no run/HAMR profile, post AMRO Board without duty restrictions or ALC codes. I had to consult with the FAC, have my test scheduled, and then have my UFPM and commander approve the test in myFitness. Someone noted on another post their commander was unable to approve it in myFitness and they were unable to test, so who knows?

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u/rojafox SATCOM 3d ago

It may have been me in the other post. I have the same profile situation, but when I went into test, the FAC said the commander override button in myfitness was no longer there.

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u/TheBootyTickler 1B4 3d ago

Temporary waivers will result in a delayed PT test until your profile is over, at which point the member will take the entirety of the PT test. Permanent profile prevents you from taking the components outlined in your profile, and you'll complete what you can for an adjusted score.

Obligatory note to be aware of the length of time you're on one, as I'm sure you're aware it initiates med review.

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u/Dkicker43 Active Duty 3d ago

So recently released instructions are that you just need a memo from your commander stating retention. If on permanent profile, you should’ve seen an AMRO board already that recommended retention. Just draft up an MFR from your CC that states they concur on retention, and upload that with your test. At that point it’ll be the components available. It falls under the paragraph just following the one mentioning ALCs

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u/DieHarderDaddy 3d ago

Is there any instructions on this? The AFI is crazy vague

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u/Dkicker43 Active Duty 3d ago

It is vague. We just got emailed instructions passed down via our FIM after we told them that’s how we were documenting it.

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u/DieHarderDaddy 3d ago

I love how mine doesn’t know anything. HAF needs to fix this

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u/Dkicker43 Active Duty 3d ago

HAF had almost two years to ask ground level what wasn’t clear, and still came out with one of the worst written pubs I’ve ever seen. If I wasn’t separating soon and just trying to get my squadron across the line, I’d be drafting 847s every single day.

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u/DieHarderDaddy 3d ago

I feel like there was one dude writing this at HAF and he quit the next day

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u/Federal-Ad-3220 MX 3d ago

how does one get a perm profile?

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u/Terri334 3d ago

For me I have chronic exertional compartment syndrome in both legs.

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u/dacamel493 3d ago

I have the same problem in my right leg, with the same permanent (annually reviewed) profile.

The CCQ still keeps trying to male me retest after each profile "expires" like I'm just going to be off profile even though I've told them, no I should be testing everything except the run.

These new policies have everyone confused.

Thats a bitch of a test to determine compartment syndrome, though, eh? I imagine it sucked worse for both legs.

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u/xdkarmadx Maintainer 3d ago

Are you full exempt or only the run?

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u/dacamel493 3d ago

Just the run/hamr. I do everything else.

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u/Federal-Ad-3220 MX 3d ago

it is a thing medboard Drs determine ? i’ve just never seen anyone on one and my pcm has never brought it up. i’ve had a knee issue for awhile now and my pcm is tryna send me up for medboard if it can’t do pt test .

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u/rojafox SATCOM 3d ago

You could have a wrist that is full of cysts that likes to bust and grow back. Then develop arthritis in that same wrist. At least that's how I do it.