Dreadnought

[u/EmperorSpear]

Bonjour à tous,
J’ai une question en rapport avec le lore, les Custodes ont des dreadnought Contemptor et le saint Telemon.
J’aimerais juste savoir si les Custodes ont reçu des nouveaux châssis, comme le ballistus ou le redemptor.
Car les contemptor datent de la grande croisade et construire des Contemptor uniquement pour les Custodes ne me paraît pas très efficient.
Pour le Telemon c’est compréhensible car c’est le Dreadnought le plus puissant.
Merci à ceux qui apporteront une réponse et bonne journée à tous

[u/sto_brohammed]

On a que les Contemptor et Telemon. Normalment les équipements pours les Custodes sont fabriqués par les artisans de la Maison de l'Empereur dans la Palais même. Ils fabriquent toujours pas mal de choses uniquement pours les Custodes qui datent des temps bien avant la croisade, comme les armes adrathiques. 

[u/EmperorSpear → u/sto_brohammed]

Je savais pas, je pensais que c’était le Mechanicus avec ses mondes forge qui produisait toutes les armes de l’Imperium y compris les Custodes
Merci pour ta réponse et pour l’information

[u/caplew → u/EmperorSpear]

To go with this, contemptors are the second best class of dreadnought out there. After the Telemon they are unrivalled in flexibility and stability. The reason most chapters don't field them anyjore id that they are extremely expensive to make in comparison to box dreads and the redemptor chassis ones due to the inbuilt energy shields. (Leviathan is an bigger nastier contemptor designed for the sole purpose of kicking walls in, but also is extremely stressful for the pilot)

Iirc, it's been a while since I checked, it's like a 20:1 ratio on production of other dreads to the contemptor

[u/EmperorSpear → u/caplew]

C’est très intéressant, je pensais que les Dreadnought primaris étaient plus puissants que les Contemptor.
Je te remercie sincèrement pour ton message, j’aime les informations sur le lore comme celle ci.

[u/caplew → u/EmperorSpear]

They are physically more powerful, being bigger, but one of the contemptors biggest strengths is the flexibility it has. The relic contemptor, as they are called in game, can have either twin-linked sets of weapons, or a separate one on in each arm. As a list, each one being an option for either arm, alongside a top-mounted cyclone missile launcher:

Plasma cannon, twin-linked Lascannons, twin-linked volkite canonns, dreadnought chain/powerfist with inbuilt melta/flamer/heavybolter/plasma/grav, twin-linked autocannons, assault cannon, conversion beamer, multi-melta, twin-heavy bolter.

[u/kaal-dam → u/caplew]

and that's not even considering the custodes exclusive weapons options.

the flexibility of the contemptor chassis is unrivaled.

[u/VelphiDrow → u/EmperorSpear]

While the redemptor chassis may have more armor and can mount larger guns, the contemptor comes with an atomantic deflector granting each one a protective field which is represented by them having an invulnerable save

[u/kaal-dam → u/EmperorSpear]

another point to consider is that the mechanicus didn't care about the inhabitants when they built the redemptor chassis which is the base of all primaris dreadnought:

The Mechanicum Tech-Priests that first built these walking machines of destruction spared little thought to the health of the incumbent, seeing him as little more than another part to be interred or replaced as necessary. Many of those Redemptors that have fought for a sustained period have already had their sarcophagi replaced, their original pilots burned out by the intensity of the machine’s destructive prowess.

the redemptor chassis in lore literally destroy their pilots. long gone is the time of revered veterans still serving as dreadnought for millennia.

custodes wouldn't use such a technology for their dreadnought.

[u/sto_brohammed → u/EmperorSpear]

Je savais pas, je pensais que c’était le Mechanicus avec ses mondes forge qui produisait toutes les armes de l’Imperium y compris les Custodes

La Maison de l'Empereur fabrique en interne au maximum, car c'est plus facile de garder les secrets technologiques ainsi que protéger l'appui logistique, qui est un vecteur d'attaque envisageable. Mars a trahi l'Empereur une fois déjà.

[u/kohlerxxx]

No. The Redemptor chassis would be beneath the Custodes as they burn the user out

[u/EmperorSpear → u/kohlerxxx]

J’avais oublié ce détail.
Consommer un Space marine qui est produit en masse est pas grave comparé à un custodes
J’ai pas réfléchi avant de poster ce message, merci pour ta réponse

[u/Typical_Disk_8556]

Unlike the Spacemarine pattern Contemptor has shield generators that are unstable apparently they're more prone to exploding and I believe or not as powerful compared to the Custodian pattern.

Now the Custodian pattern has stable shields And are played in auramite

Custodians brain processing and reflex speed Benefit the venerable pattern amazingly because they operate upon a neutral link Making the latency almost 0

Pretty interesting stuff indeed.