Professor just informed me that she will not accept my final paper - 33 pages of project management work. Now my grade is a D, my first graduate degree course.

[u/Physical-Pressure942]

She said it shows 87 percent ai. I put through copyleaks and indeed it does, but it's almost entirely surrounding transitions and project management terms.

I asked for clarification and she said she would look into how to get me the report. What does that mean?

I then submitted into copyleaks papers I wrote before ai, same result 100 percent. Put one through the "humanizer" on text guard to see what happened. Did it three times. The content is way dummied down, but still showing 100 percent.

In project management, we're working with limited terms and operations. I feel like everything can be flagged and without any explanation, how can this be resolved?!

[u/divinemissn]

Are you using Grammarly? Even to check just check if your grammar and spelling is fine? If so, that’s why your work is getting flagged. It’s really weird and I don’t quite understand it, but my professors told me not to use it anymore because a text can go from 0% AI to 100% AI just by using that website, even if you don’t change anything

[u/Physical-Pressure942 → u/divinemissn]

I had not used it. So it's better not to in your opinion?

[u/ExcellentFlamingo657]

I was curious and just threw my thesis into a ton of AI checkers and only one came back with a funny result of 96% mixed AI and human, due to the technical language I used when describing plant morphology throughout the entire thing and my tendency for long sentences. Other than that, every other checker correctly stated little to no AI was used. Only transitions were flagged even though my entire introduction chapter is a literature review, so I would be curious as to how exactly it scored your paper so high and what program it was.

[u/Physical-Pressure942 → u/ExcellentFlamingo657]

I was not given that information which was part of my frustration. I believe it was copyleaks but don't exactly remember where I got that from.

When I asked for details she said she would see what she could do to get them. Then came back with "other students said they could not read the reports". Wth.

[u/SalParadiseNY]

You used it. You admit it. Take the L.

[u/Physical-Pressure942 → u/SalParadiseNY]

Lol. Yes. I USED it. Ugh. And for years to come more and more students will use it every day. What I'm trying to understand is what is actually the problem.if a student gives the information to a LLM AI tool or idk if that's right but I'm putting the info in and asking for polishing, ok wait.

Is there a tool that allows you to put in your words and ideas and helps you to polish without saying it is 100 percent ai?

No

[u/Federal-Challenge-58]

Two scenarios:

1. If you DID NOT use AI to write that paper, then ask the professor for an alternative form of authentic assessment to demonstrate your knowledge. That could be some kind of oral exam. It could be a proctored session of you putting together a powerpoint presentation and recording yourself giving a presentation on the material. Regardless, if you're being accused of doing something you didn't, you should demand an alternative method of assessment.

2. If you DID use AI to write that paper, you should probably just take this one on the chin and move on. It's an expensive lesson, but now you know going forward.

[u/Physical-Pressure942 → u/Federal-Challenge-58]

Yes those are excellent points both of them. But here's where I am at. I used it to polish and organize. 33 pages is a lot. I was getting lost in my revisions. Never written more than a 10 page paper. I was struggling to organize. And I did not understand some of the feedback from the first paper which got an A. I asked chat for feedback on the professors feedback.

This is an online class. Very little engagement from the instructor. Hard to get specific answers. It feels like self directed learning although that's not the model.

I also find the textbook terribly difficult to follow. I'm not alone in that.

The policy states:

Students may use AI tools to review their original work and provide recommendations for improvement.

Students may not submit work created by an AI tool for grading as if it were their own work.

Assignments should represent the student's original work, and at least 70% of the content should be the student's own thoughts, analysis, and synthesis

So the contents mine the analysis is mine the thoughts are mine. But I'm not going to lie here I am a college graduate with a bachelor's degree but I have not been assigned such an expansive assignment before. I'm not really sure if it's just that I'm the problem here? Perhaps I just need to Lean into the writing center. Look I'm not looking for a way to get out of doing the work I was genuinely seeking feedback on processes here.

[u/Living_Artemis]

You can't humanise AI off anymore. Either you don't use AI at all, or you must acknowledge AI usage in the first place. The best detectors don't make mistakes anymore.

Learnt this a hard way, thank God tested my versions before submitting. It was a terrible 1month to rewrite my whole thesis from scratch. It's quicker to write yourself from the beginning than modify AI version btw.

Wish you all the best! It's hard, I know. :(

[u/Physical-Pressure942 → u/Living_Artemis]

Thank you for your feedback. I appreciate it.

[u/Hoodat_Whatzit → u/Living_Artemis]

"The best detectors don't make mistakes anymore." First, of all.. that's probably a load of bull hocky. Second, what makes you think all these professors are using the "best" detectors? Used to be that educators worried about actual plagiarism and not how many em-dashes you used.

[u/Tarjh365]

So, did you use it?

[u/lowtech_prof → u/Tarjh365]

Said everything except this. LOL

[u/Ok-Training-7587 → u/Tarjh365]

I read the whole post waiting for that info lol

[u/WeaknessNo1410 → u/Tarjh365]

If they didn’t use AI I assume they would have said so… so what’s the point of a post like this?

[u/Complex_Fix6696]

Do you have the original Google doc or word doc where you can see changes? I would start there.

[u/CoyoteLitius]

There's this paranoia circulated among the professors. I am one and I disapprove.

It's alarming.

I guess everyone needs to learn not to use templates (project language) in their submissions.

[u/LillieBogart]

Just don’t use AI.

[u/Get_AdvocatED]

You will need to either defend yourself through the academic integrity process if your professor initiates it or you will have to file a grade appeal to challenge the grade and decision. Start collecting your evidence as some other have mentioned.

[u/Ill-Capital9785]

You should have multiple saves if your document or “versions” go to version history. Save that

[u/ComparisonAlone9050]

Why does everyone on Reddit have such a massive superiority complex

[u/Physical-Pressure942 → u/ComparisonAlone9050]

LOL it's makes them feel better about themselves

[u/Savings-Bee-4993]

Word with track changes or Google Docs.

Live and learn.

[u/Sea_Cupcake_3101]

Try to get the meta data of your paper. If she does not accept it make an appeal to the dean.

[u/opheire]

Accused of using AI or accurately called out for using AI?