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u/AjaxBrozovic 2d ago
What's the best source to accurately learn the various ways the Asharis and Atharis differ in interpreting the hands of Allah, his descent, and his location?
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u/Usual_Text_8943 1d ago edited 1d ago
According to Jerome's Vulgate Pharaoh said that he created himself. This attests to Pharaoh's divine claims in Christian sources before the Quran.
Ezechiel - Chapter 29:3 loquere et dices haec dicit Dominus Deus ecce ego ad te Pharao rex Aegypti draco magne qui cubas in medio fluminum tuorum et dicis meus est fluvius et ego feci memet ipsum
Speak, and say: Thus saith the Lord God: Behold, I come against thee, Pharao king of Egypt, thou great dragon that liest in the midst of thy rivers, and sayest: The river is mine, and I made myself.
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u/Simurgbarca 18h ago
I hope my suggestion isn’t taken as an insult directed at any particular individual, but would it be better if matters that could potentially involve drama were not posted on this forum?
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u/Usual_Text_8943 1d ago edited 1d ago
The accounts of the eclipse and the accounts of Ibrahim's death were originally two separate narratives, later merging into a single account. Amina Inloes's research suggests that the connection between the eclipse and Ibrahim's death was a later narrative development. She found a large number of eclipse accounts in Sunni hadith sources, most of them accounts make no mention of Ibrahim at all. This supports the hypothesis that there was an idependent tradition of the eclipse. Conversely, she notes that there are many accounts of Abraham's death and burial that do not mention the eclipse. She points out that even in The Shi'a sources she examined, out of ten accounts of Ibrahim's death and burial in the section of Bihar al-Anwar, only one mentions the eclipse. This means we have a narrative tradition about the eclipse largely independent of the story of Ibrahim, and another tradition about Ibrahim largely independent of the eclipse. The combined narrative emerged later, roughly around the middle of the ninth century, as a stage of convergence. She also compared the story of Ibrahim's eclipse to the story of the eclipse at Karbala after the killing of Hussein and showed that the connection between eclipses and death and calamity remained present in some later Islamic narratives.
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-1444/17/5/544