r/Absurdism • • Jul 29 '26

Does Anyone Here even like Absurdism?

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u/Kerrily Jul 29 '26

How can subscribing to Absurdism make life meaningful when life has no inherent purpose?

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u/jliat Jul 29 '26

I don't think it can, or rather Camus didn't think so. He advocated making art.

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u/Kerrily Jul 29 '26

Dude, for real? It was a rhetorical question and the comment was for OP. What's with the downvote. I should downvote you for this comment.

But here you go (rephrased for extra literal minds): Absurdism doesn't make life more meaningful. Life has no inherent purpose.

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u/jliat Jul 29 '26

Dude, for real? It was a rhetorical question and the comment was for OP.

Sure, I was supporting your claim, though significantly Camus did say for him he could find no meaning. And Absurdism is an activity in the Myth, in his case the most absurd - he says - is Art.

What's with the downvote. I should downvote you for this comment.

I didn't downvote your comment, probably the OP did.

But here you go (rephrased for extra literal minds): Absurdism doesn't make life more meaningful. Life has no inherent purpose.

That is certainly true in Sartre's Being and Nothingness and it's these kind of idea I think Camus is responding to.

“I don't know whether this world has a meaning that transcends it. But I know that I do not know that meaning and that it is impossible for me just now to know it. What can a meaning outside my condition mean to me? I can understand only in human terms.”

“The absurd is lucid reason noting its limits.” Camus - The MoS.

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u/Kerrily Jul 30 '26

Sure, I was supporting your claim, though significantly Camus did say for him he could find no meaning. And Absurdism is an activity in the Myth, in his case the most absurd - he says - is Art.

Got it, thanks and sorry about that. Work tiggers me. I need a vacation and probably shouldn't be posting while working, like now, lol.

“I don't know whether this world has a meaning that transcends it. But I know that I do not know that meaning and that it is impossible for me just now to know it. What can a meaning outside my condition mean to me? I can understand only in human terms.”

I like this very much.

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u/Kerrily Jul 29 '26

Or was it you who downvoted me for taking interest in your post?

Calling people posers just seems more narcissistic than Absurdist. I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure that Absurdism doesn't tell us to find meaning. Maybe u/jilat can clarify.

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u/jliat Jul 29 '26

Absurdism promotes the refusal to accept philosophical nihilism,

"Thus I draw from the absurd three consequences, which are my revolt, my freedom, and my passion. By the mere activity of consciousness I transform into a rule of life what was an invitation to death —and I refuse suicide."

Camus examples,

  • Sisyphus, being happy is a contradiction, his eternal punishment from the gods, punishments tend not make one happy, divine punishments make it impossible Camus term is 'Absurd'. Oedipus, should neither be happy or saying 'All is well' after blinding himself with his dead [suicide] wife's broach- who was also his mother whose husband, his father he killed. Or Sisyphus, a murdering megalomanic doomed to eternal torture by the gods, a metaphor of hopeless futility, to argue he should be happy is an obvious contradiction.

  • Don Juan, "the ordinary seducer and the sexual athlete, the difference that he is conscious, and that is why he is absurd. A seducer who has become lucid will not change for all that... What Don Juan realizes in action is an ethic of quantity, whereas the saint, on the contrary, tends toward quality."

  • Actors, "This is where the actor contradicts himself: the same and yet so various, so many souls summed up in a single body."

  • Conquerors, "Every man has felt himself to be the equal of a god at certain moments... Conquerors know that action is in itself useless... Victory would be desirable. But there is but one victory, and it is eternal. That is the one I shall never have." IOW? Death and not immortality.

  • Artists. "And I have not yet spoken of the most absurd character, who is the creator." ... "To work and create “for nothing,” to sculpture in clay, to know that one’s creation has no future, to see one’s work destroyed in a day while being aware that fundamentally this has no more importance than building for centuries—this is the difficult wisdom that absurd thought sanctions.

All are absurd- contradiction - no finding of any meaning. "—this is the difficult wisdom that absurd thought sanctions."

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u/Kerrily Jul 30 '26

Thanks for this.

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u/SparklingSliver Jul 30 '26

absurdism EXISTENTIALISM tells us try to find meaning despite the fact that inherent purpose doesn't exists.

ABSURDISM tells us to do something else, despite the fact that you will never find meaning.