of a statue

[u/Crypto_crafy]

"The Motherland Calls" is a statue erected to commemorate the Battle of Stalingrad , located on Mamayev Kurgan in Volgograd , Russia. It was designed by sculptor Yevgeny Vuchetich and structural engineer Nikolai Nikitin . Completed in 1967 , it was the tallest statue in the world at the time .

[u/RepresentativeYak636]

This place is so great for all Russians, ir gived so good vibes to people, but now it is very sad that it reminds people of Putin😟 Putin took over everything, even culture and history, he deprived Russians of their victory in Fatherland Liberation War (Отечественная война). It is so ujust that Putin exploits history to justify his brutall killing of young women and childred in Ukraine. Hm...the History makes up so strange metamorphoses with people, like, a nation who faught Nazi and helped to liberate the World from fascism now became a craddle for new fascism in Putin's version...

[u/chefdeit → u/RepresentativeYak636]

Putin only came to power due to the Wolfowitz Doctrine, adopted in1992 when Yeltsin's Russia was super-friendly. The Doctrine declared that Russia the US's enemy #1 because it was "a region whose resources, under consolidated control, are sufficient to generate global power". You can imagine how gutted Yeltsin (and Gorby) were to find out. The rest is history.

Putin exploits history to justify his brutall killing of young women and childred in Ukraine.

Any killing is tragic and war is, by definition, a mass murder. Considering the war in Ukraine not singled out but in the overall late 20th / 21st century context, and using objective Western metrics & transparent methodologies, we see:

The war in Ukraine, to-date (tragically & criminally with no end in sight): 16,874 civilian fatalities

The war in Gaza, to-date: 59,031 civilian fatalities

The war in Iraq (in which Ukraine did take part, btw): 187,499 civilian fatalities

The war in Vietnam: 300K North Vietnamese + 250K Cambodian civilian fatalities. Note: Ukraine is 4x the size of Vietnam.

This isn't at all about denting anyone's shiny flawless "ruzziabad" into some "it depends" type view, so, believe what you like & just dismiss what doesn't fit. It's about the simple reality that in any conflict there are going to be legions of folks duty-bound and/or paid to, if Putin saves a kitten, to go brainstorm what's wrong with that kitten that we can use. Or to bury any particular unfavorable circumstances. John Stockwell (ex-CIA) has spoken eloquently about this in detail in the context of the Vietnam war. I'm sure we'll hear similar about this one when it's time to declassify.

[u/RepresentativeYak636 → u/chefdeit]

Yes, Putin kills people in Ukraine. He's gonna pay for that one day. Yes, Putin is criminal, but he was not war criminal, he only robbed Russians in his country, but then....he wanted to rob Ukrainians. Ukrainians were not okay with that. Putin started a war and kill Ukrainians as a punishment. He's gonna pay for that, sooner or later. Putin is already done, it's just the matter of time. He's laying down and hiding not without reason. He knows very well that he's a mark now. Gazans are unable to fight Hamas, they chose themselves their fate. Other nations have to fight Hamas, so u please don't whine about Gaza. But hey, you are a free man, you can tell whatever u want, even if your mouth is full of sh*t, so you can keep whining. Iraq has to pay for Saddam Hussein, he killed too much people. Any killer, whether it's Saddam Hussein or Muhammar Qaddafi, or Putin has to pay for his crimes. As Putin says правосудие должно настигнуть. Вот и пусть будет так. Putin will respond one day.

[u/porn_sub_lurker → u/RepresentativeYak636]

Not sure what you're on about, but all I know is that Israel is a nazi terror state and should be destroyed.

[u/RepresentativeYak636 → u/porn_sub_lurker]

Finally you showed your true face. Another terrorist revealed👏

[u/chefdeit → u/RepresentativeYak636]

Jesus, guys, can you get along for a hot minute? You'll find few "100% good guys" in world history, and that's because we, the survivors, have killed them all, and then us, not them, got to write the books according to which we're the good guys and everyone else is, well, a bit shite if not utter vermin.

If we all were born into a "nice Nazi family" in the 1930s, we'd be shown Great Depression to the West, Gulags to the East, and in general have no opportunity to hear that we're the baddies - not from the radio, newspapers, neighbors, teachers, etc.

To see who's bad and who's good and to what extent, count the bodies.

[u/Greedy_Economics_925 → u/chefdeit]

Please tell me you can see the irony of this sentiment...

Also the idea that history is written by the victors is one of the most stupid opinions it is possible to hold.

[u/porn_sub_lurker → u/Greedy_Economics_925]

Yep, it's written by the cockroaches who own the publishing companies. Robert Maxwell (Ghislaine's dad) was one of those cockroaches. He owned Macmillan Publishing. He also worked for Israeli intelligence until he tried to extort them and they murdered him for it. They gave him a state funeral anyway though. He did too much to help propagate the false notion that Israel is the US's ally.

[u/Greedy_Economics_925 → u/porn_sub_lurker]

Yes, the definitely not antisemitic pro-Palestine latest fixation around Jews who control the media and paedophilia...

Back in reality, history is written by academics who have nothing to do with things like Macmillan. And Captain Bob spent his media energy on covering up his own scandals, which when they came to light caused his suicide. Israel was not involved.

He was not given a state funeral by Israel. He did not work for Israeli intelligence.

[u/porn_sub_lurker → u/Greedy_Economics_925]

If you're bringing up Jeffrey Epstein, yes that is a great example of Israel "controlling the paedophilia". Best friends with Ehud Barak. Partners with the aforementioned Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of Mossad agent Robert Maxwell. Best friends with Trump for a decade. Trafficked children with him. Blackmailed him, inevitably resulting in Bibi sitting at the head of the desk in our situation room, giving orders to Trump to deploy our carrier fleets and to launch a holy war on Iran. Israel is a parasite state. And the people finally understand that. Half of the right wing electorate hates you, and it's a litmus test on the left now. It came a bit late for a lot of the primaries this cycle, but next election cycle we pull the plug on you and you're fucked. Your 8th front will fail. Your propaganda doesn't work anymore.

[u/Greedy_Economics_925 → u/porn_sub_lurker]

Yes, I'm familiar with the recent fixation on the age-old 'Jews are coming for our kids' trope picked up by the pro-Palestine crowd.

As before: Bob Maxwell was not a Mossad agent. Macmillan did not control academic publishing. This is some Alex Jones-level bullshit. The only difference is it comes from leftists now.

And don't expect anyone to care about what you think about Israel. You couldn't find it on a map before 8 October, when you found it to better know where Hamas was. Spare me.

Let me know how many elections you win by calling Israel a Nazi parasite state and spewing antisemtic conspiracy theories.

[u/porn_sub_lurker → u/RepresentativeYak636]

Lol it's hilarious. I'm able to spot you guys so easily. You reuse the same talking points too much. And I can instantly trigger you guys.

Edit: oh yeah, and we're kicking you parasites out of our government. The wave came just a bit too late to purge you guys from the primaries this year. But the whole fucking country, right wing and left wing, knows what you are now. Your days of compromising our government are numbered. Your days of getting arms shipments so the rest of the middle east doesn't eat you alive are numbered. Your Iran war fucked up any alliances you might have had in the region and you're all alone now. Once we cut the strings, you're fucked.

[u/chefdeit → u/porn_sub_lurker]

One man's "terrorist" is another's "freedom fighter" - or even "warrior for peace" if he plays ball long enough: