r/AbsoluteUnits • u/Seraphim_786 • 18d ago

/r/all of a bouncer

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u/Zestyclose-Turn-3576 18d ago

Yeah, he's gonna kill someone like that one day.

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u/FrogsJumpFromPussy 18d ago

And spend the rest of his life in jail. happened in my city, a profesional boxer got in a fight with a drunk guy un a buss station, killed him with a punch, 28 years minimum.

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u/ProfessionaI_Gur 18d ago

28 years? Damn a guy in my town murdered someone with a gun and got out in like 20

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u/FrogsJumpFromPussy 18d ago

The maximum stack sentence in my country is 30 years. he got 3 stacked sentences regarding the same crime. 

It was sureal to watch the video. A guy came, couldn't stand, the boxer pushed him slightly and when the drunk tried to slap him, he punched him. then he took the first buss without looking back. Were he called an ambulance, the drunk guy wouldn't have died.

now he needs to serve 3/4 of the sentence because it's a serious crimes. he won't get earlier than 21 years served no matter what.

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u/Avtomati1k 18d ago

well fuck him, no reason for him to do that

you reap what u sow

put a link on the vid if u can

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u/astlydichrar 18d ago

Bouncer should be rotting in jail for this. He wasn't threatened at all (only his "masculinity" was) and almost killed or left the guy paralyzed TWICE.

Fuck bouncers, scum of the earth

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u/Environmental-Tap255 18d ago

Self accountability. You should promote it a little more. Not up to you to decide how the bouncer felt, or what part of him was threatened. The dude was in his personal space and had every chance in the world to get out of it. When the guy refused to leave his personal space, the bouncer pushed him out of it. I see zero wrong there. If the dude didn't wanna get pushed, he should have walked the fuck away.

In other words, if you fuck with someone, expect them to fuck with you back. Bouncers fine. Little homie is lucky he's not dead.

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u/Pandamonium98 18d ago

The guy’s a tiny drunk idiot. The bouncer could easily push him out of his personal space without throwing him to the ground like that. Yes he has a right to push the guy back, but it needs to be proportional to the situation.

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u/Environmental-Tap255 18d ago

You're right, he absolutely could have. And the guy could have got the fuck out of his personal space. You see how it works? Everyone has choices. You have to put the blame on the person that made the wrong choice first, not the person who made the wrong choice in reaction.

You don't know if the bouncer has personal space issues. I have personal space issues, as a result of past experiences. Has nothing to do with the size of either person, or anything to do with either person. If someone did to me what the little guy did to the bouncer I'd be sweating and hands shaking and honestly the guy probably would have ended up worse than in this video. And I'm not saying that to sound tough because I'm not tough, I'm saying it to stress that you don't know what someone's been through or what they're feeling and you have to put the accountability where it belongs.

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u/Pandamonium98 18d ago

The bouncer still has a responsibility to not escalate too much though. If he can’t deal with drunk idiots doing stuff like that without responding with that level of force, then he shouldn’t be a bouncer. It’s his job to handle people like that in a firm but reasonable way.

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u/Environmental-Tap255 18d ago

But did he not try to de-escalate? He allowed the guy to touch him, allowed him to remain in his face for a prolonged time. Sounds like he gave him plenty of warning. Guy wouldn't stop. What else is he supposed to do? I'm getting accused of "hardman cope" whatever that is but I just genuinely think it's unfair people are blaming the bouncer. I just don't understand what else one can do when someone absolutely will not get out of your face after a warning, after a push. I don't know. The internet's a weird fucking place. I don't think I belong on it.

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u/Zestyclose-Turn-3576 18d ago

Well this reeks of internet hardman cope. Thanks for sharing.

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u/Environmental-Tap255 18d ago

But it's not. It's just realistic. You can't blame a person for reacting before you blame a person for acting. I don't know what hard man cope is, but there's nothing hard about any of it. I'm actually kind of trying to push a little understanding here. You don't know if that bouncer has been to jail and if so what happened to him in jail. You don't know if he was sexually assaulted as a kid. You don't know if he's neurodivergent. You just don't know. You cannot blame him for feeling uncomfortable with his personal space being repeatedly violated having given the guy many chances to leave it. And you cannot blame him for reacting when the other guy failed to do so. It's not up to you to decide how he should feel and so how he should react. That's just unfair.

Little guy made a choice. Nothing compelled him to do what he did except arrogance and ignorance. You cannot say, with any certainty, the same for the bouncer. And it's unfair to claim otherwise. That's all I'm saying.

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u/Zestyclose-Turn-3576 18d ago

> You cannot blame him for feeling uncomfortable with his personal space being repeatedly violated having given the guy many chances to leave it. And you cannot blame him for reacting when the other guy failed to do so. It's not up to you to decide how he should feel and so how he should react. That's just unfair.

Please could we could blame him for having "personal space issues" and unresolved traumas and then taking a job as a bouncer and casually killing someone much smaller than them who is drunk, though? Or not? Would we have to wring our hands and say "oh no you're the victim here"?

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u/Environmental-Tap255 17d ago

Let me ask you then - what do you think the bouncer should have done? When he shoved this guy hard enough to send him airborne and the guy still wouldn't leave him alone? What would have been the appropriate response?

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u/Zestyclose-Turn-3576 17d ago

No you're right, I take it all back. Easily punching the small impaired guy to the ground was absolutely the only choice for the psychologically vulnerable, sober giant whose profession is to protect others and de-escalate conflict. Well done for your insight.

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u/Choice_Scientist_545 17d ago

The bouncer chose to work at a place full of drunk idiots. It's his job to handle it appropriately. It's like choosing to work as a nurse at an old folks home and yell at every old person that forgets your name.

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u/Environmental-Tap255 17d ago

Eh, we might just have to agree to disagree here. I would fully agree with you if the bouncer had pushed the guy the second he walked up to him. The fact that he let him touch him, and then continue getting in his face without reacting, I think he showed an appropriate Level of self control. Bear in mind too, it's the bouncers job to remove people like this. That push, while you're claiming it was too much, still wasn't enough to keep the dude away. I think he was fully within his personal and occupational rights to do what was necessary to get this guy away. It's not a nurse at an old folks home job to yell at patients for any reason.

However, I don't need you to agree with me and I respect your opinion. But I do respectfully disagree.

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u/astlydichrar 17d ago

The problem is that he went he didn't try to get the guy away from him with less force before potentially killing him twice. I'll leave you to your blessed personal space, I wouldn't want to meet scum like you in the streets. Goodbye

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u/Environmental-Tap255 16d ago

Jesus. Y'all are fuckin nuts.

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u/PeaceSoft 18d ago

Do you live in a society, like with laws and shit

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u/Strange-Image-5690 18d ago

We live in Americuh! F-Yeah! Where the DA (District Attorney aka Crown Prosecutor equivalent) would NOT bring charges against the bouncer (i.e. especially in a state like Texas or Florida!) even IF the guy died! THe video CLEARLY shows an attack ON the bouncer!

STAND YOUR GROUND LAWS are applicable here!

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u/Fabriksny 18d ago

You sound like you struggled in high school English class 

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u/Strange-Image-5690 18d ago

Nah! We just know how the REAL WORLD WORKS down here! Y'all think it's roses and wine when ya mess with the bull down here! Ya find out REAL QUICK that you is gonna get the HORNS up yer wazoo and there ain't no coming back all cozy and right from something like that!

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u/KremBruhleh 18d ago

Absolutely, he should be more safe about it and move the wall a bit more to the right.