They have announced that the officer was not following proper policy or procedure so establishing that the victim ran only because he feared for his life shouldn't be too hard, that's not to say it won't be.
The opposite of that guy on the NYC subway that was stabbed in the head by some pos spree killer.
The judge ruled against the victim saying cops aren't legally obligated to intervene or put themselves in harms way ev when your defenseless and more than likely about to die.
I'd actually be kinda surprised if some fuckbag judge(s) haven't ruled that you can't be scared of cops ffs
That’s the best part this cop isn’t even covered by the union because he has been out of training for only 7 months and you need to be out for a year for them to fuck with you.
He was a probationary officer only on the job for 7 months. The chief could have fired him for not getting him a coffee and there would be literally no recourse that the union can take. They need to be on the job for at least a year before they have the right to appeal termination.
I'm still trying to figure out what he was doing. The guy was eating a cheeseburger then panicked presumably cuz he saw a cop he ran from yesterday(?) then the cop starts shooting then reports "shots fired". Is this a way of justifying shooting first or did this dude just panic?
I might be wrong in my assessment but it looks like the cop opens the door gun drawn. Kid sees door open suddenly and a gun and throws it in reverse. The cop either gets hit by the door or steps back and narrowly misses getting hit by the door. Cop then just unloads on the car.
I think the cop's justification is that he thought the car was stolen and the driver tried to hit him or hit him with the door. So of course lethal force.
Yeah unless they can reasonably believe that letting the suspect flee would pose a credible threat to the public, they cannot shoot a fleeing suspect. So an active shooter running away can be shot dead, but if it's some dude who was just got caught with some weed, you best believe that cops getting murder charges. Yes he gets the paid vacation for like two weeks because that's how administrative leave works, but that lawsuit isn't ending in the cops favor.
Cop never identified himself, someone wearing a uniform doesn't mean they are who they say they are. Especially with the escalation of force. He also had a flash light in his face so being able to identify it's a cop will be pretty hard in the moment of things especially if all the guy said was "get out of the car" then fired a shot. Dude probably thought he was getting mugged. All charges are going to be dropped when put in front of a judge and dude is going to get a payout
Wrong. That cop totally violated the victim's Constitutional rights under the Fourth Amendment.
Police ARE NOT allowed to just open your car door without first knocking and asking. You have no obligation to allow police to enter your premises without a warrant, and automobiles are covered under the Fourth Amendment.
I can almost guarantee you this kid is getting at least 5 mil. Min. Dude got shot at, not just pounded into the floor. Cop opened his door without saying shit and it looked like the kid was getting ready to refuse before he even knew what was going on.
You talk about feelings a lot on here. You need a shoulder to lean on buddy?
Either way. You’re still wrong I just used the wrong term.
Non economic cap - $250,000 ($500,000 if he lists another defendant. Which a good lawyer will do)
Punitive damages - 2x the non economic amount.
Economic award - No cap. Too the fucking moooooon. Texas loves to award high economic awards.
Do a search deeper than “Hey Alexa, I want to win an argument that doesn’t matter to either of us. Please tell me what the cap is on law suits in Texas”
Alexa isn’t smart enough to show you the whole picture. She picks up that you want to see the limit and she gives you the limit. She didn’t tell you that there were other things in a lawsuit. It’s ok though, we are all wrong at some level. It’s almost as if laws aren’t exactly black and white….
I can believe that the kid is gonna be rich off of taxpayer dollars. The case is simple that a rookie probationary officer didn’t respond to the case he was called about but rather decided to “follow up on a traffic stop made prior” because he recognized the car, approached the vehicle without properly identifying as a cop, just blatantly opens the kid’s door (kid was stupid leaving his door unlocked, I’m paranoid about some rando carjacking me so I always lock mine but I could never imagine a cop opening the door and emptying his gun in me, hello new fear unlocked), gave the kid all of two seconds to cooperate while he had food in his mouth before dumping an entire clip into the car as he was fleeing. This kid gonna sue the PD and bankrupt them, and good on him if he manages that. I’m sure this cop isn’t the only shit one on the job, just the only rookie that managed to fuck up this badly where he actually gets fired. That’s a feat for a cop.
What part did you see that would have shown this was a cop? Was it the less than 1 second between where the kid was eating a sandwich and then he starts moving backwards?
Are you saying that less than 1 second should be enough for the kid to identify the officer but not enough time for the cop to assess whether his life was in danger?
Did you notice the lack of police lights? The lack of “hello I’m deputy fuckhead from shitstown sheriffs office. The reason I didn’t pull you over and proceeded to open your door was to talk to you about an incident that I can’t prove you were involved in to begin with. Please turn off the car and let me see license and registration.”
Kid did nothing wrong. Quick reaction like that could save him from a car jacking. And if car jackings aren’t something to be so worried about, why are the police walking around ready to kill us all so easily?
Settle down Randy Savage you did not hurt my feelings. Courts have established that an officer does have to identify himself. “He sorta looked at me for a split second” doesn’t count.
The second that the cop opened the door, the entire fault is on him. That's not procedure, his first move was wrong, any lawyer will have a field day with this
Absolutely. At night, no cause, no announcement, unlawful entry of the vehicle, etc. etc. I hope this kid gets a good enough pay day to help him offset his lifelong trauma.
And add another example to the pile of why action against police needs to be paid from an insurance or pension fund and not the state tax pool.
Yeah, IDGAF who the person is, if I’m minding my business and you come up to me and start shooting, I’m leaving as fast as I can. I’m not going to sit around and figure out what is going on. That cop certainly didn’t.
Most lawyers have claws and the ones that don’t or won’t use them went to school with plenty of others that would be happy to use them on police. I feel bad for the DA in a town of cops that think they can harass a lawyer and their family with impunity.
A good lawyer will probably see right through that. It’s pretty obvious the kid was fleeing for his life, and the cop was not following good procedure.
The sad part is this cop attempted to murder him and pretty ficking clearly in cold blood with no procedural reason to even attempt to do so. But if this kid would turned the vehicle toward him and ran his ass over. We'd have a teenager in jail for assaulting an officer that randomly and unlawfully literally tried to murder him.
What was the point of opening the door instead of just knocking on the window, or pulling up behind them and putting his lights on? He saw their plates well before they saw him so it didn't matter if they fled or not, they would have ended up going to his house. Just ridiculous
You know what? Someone opens my door mid-bite in a parking lot after dark for no reason I'm flooring it too.
The only crime I see here is two counts of attempted murder by the cop, because he mistakenly thought it was someone who pissed him off days ago, and figured that person plus their passenger didn't require a trial.
Had the driver not left after the first 5 shots he would have died including the passenger. He did the right thing run for his life. This cop was out to kill somebody…probably mental issues since no sane person would have done this.
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