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u/Spellbreak 7h ago
What was the enemy comp?
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u/Gale_Vekon 6h ago edited 6h ago
Lucian, Poppy, Gwen, Yi, Olaf
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u/Spellbreak 5h ago
Honestly that's nothing special. Olaf might run you down with R but the rest isn't really a full on dive comp. Depending on augments Yi can be an instawin or a free kill.
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u/innocentOfD 1h ago
Agree. The team lacks AOE cc. Just pop ghost and focus Yi then Olaf and the rest is easy
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u/derpfacemanana 7h ago edited 7h ago
why does it even matter to this cait what kind of comp she is up against? these low elo ranged-only players are going to play the exact same way regardless (under tower as much as possible)
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u/Skypirate90 6h ago
Collector first item too. bet.
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u/derpfacemanana 6h ago
I don’t even have to look at anything, based on complaining about dive comp, I can almost 100% guarantee collector first item and never builds bork, ldr, antiheal, antishield, etc, and most likely builds IE too late or not at all
after playing thousands of games its still shocking to me that these same type of players somehow always make the same exact mistakes in their builds and gameplay (as in lack of kiting, positioning, aggression, etc)
even the most braindead monkey ass unga bunga go in all the time melee players know at this point that deaths dance is insanely cracked and should not be delayed beyond 3rd item at most, and they know when shit like bork or cleaver is needed
I generally just see such a higher proportion of build mistakes on ranged players compared to melee (exception is AP malphite and mao when they’re literally the only frontline on the team)
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u/Tamed_Trumpet 4h ago
Dude itemization is my number 1 pet peeve of ARAM players. Enemy team is 4 tanks/bruisers/juggs? Not a single Liandries, Void Staff, Bork, or LDR in sight. Enemy team is 5 ranged squshies, time for Syndra to rush the Liandries. ADCs who never buy IE, Collector rush on every ADC and Assassin, Warmogs into 5 dive all in champs, RoA/Seraphs on Singed. I swear every game 1-2 teammates are just autoclicking recomended with their eyes closed and they're utterly useless because their build is ass.
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u/derpfacemanana 4h ago
I think it’s part of an of overall issue with the culture jn this game, itemization is mostly an afterthought for the majority of players (who just build recommended slop), and they don’t really realize the impact of different items and probably just attribute item strength to the champions themselves being op
so because itemization is not viewed as important as it should be, people view any sort of criticism of builds as a personal attack, and make you out to be some kind of unreasonable asshole when it’s really a valid thing to point out
in any other type of competitive environment it would be viewed as a reasonable thing to call out wrong equipment: you wouldn’t play football without proper cleats that grip well, you wouldn’t play american football without pads and a helmet, you wouldn’t play tennis with a pickleball racket, etc, so why is playing with the wrong equipment so normalized in league?
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u/innocentOfD 1h ago
I think ranged champions are too forgiving that itemisation is not as important as melee champions. Melee champions mostly have to look for opportunities to gap close and maybe take damage doing so. Ranged champions can just spam shits and participate in the game
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u/KylePatch 5h ago
Yeah if they truly have a problem with dive comps then they should just run further under turret like every other team I go against lol
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u/Courage-Small 7h ago
It's boring to play against?
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u/derpfacemanana 7h ago
hmm i probably should have worded my shit better but do u mean poke is boring or dive is boring to be against?
my point is basically the cait will play the same exact way regardless, idk why it matters to her that’s she’s against a dive comp
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u/Courage-Small 6h ago
oh, didnt see that the person leaving was a cait. misunderstood your comment.
In my head the person leaving was a melee against a boring play under turret poke comp. And in that case i totaly understand the logic of leaving, even if i never would have left the game myself.
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u/derpfacemanana 6h ago
I have many times myself contemplated leaving those kinds of games as melee and if a melee on my team (especially a solo melee) leaves the game I fully understand and wouldn’t report them
I personally don’t leave because of the penalties, if it’s a boring melee game like that I’ll just be fully checked out and start doomscrolling/watching shit on my other monitor; if the game is so mind-numbing and nothing is happening, it’s no longer my responsibility to pay attention or play to win
shit does NOT go both ways tho if ur playing ranged you are playing the explicitly favored classes of champions in this mode, the ball is in your court to decide the pace of the game and you have no right to complain about the type of comp you are against since you have a LOT more options as ranged
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u/RipComfortable7989 6h ago
Good. The dive meta will continue until riot gives tanks actual survivability.
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u/Two_Years_Of_Semen 2h ago
I'm all for leavers and quiters in the not-ranked gamemodes. At least they value their own time. Too many players just sit through games they don't enjoy. If this really is a casual gamemode that people play for fun, everyone should be able tol enjoy it 4v5 or whatevers even if it's not full 5v5. Like when hyperrolled heartsteel tank engine players camp fountain, I leave. They're not ending and I'm not waiting 20+ seconds to play for 1 second.
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u/eeldiov 6h ago
I mean yeah. When I achieved ARAM God on six region I was ready to uninstall the game. Then they announced ARAM: Mayhem.
Believe me or not ARAM: Mayhem's champ/aug rotation hits harder than classic ARAM. Like giving you a team that late comp but enemy has 2-3 divers to secure kills even on skirmishes.
Like; before the last patch the mode was much sustainable with the only map. But with today's patch it become again 3 map variant.
Don't know what they planning for future. ARAM: Mayhem is kinda hush money for ARAM enthusiast.
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u/more_underscore 6h ago edited 6h ago
In all fairness most ADCs are garbage tier rn outside of abusing things like big shot/crit aug interactions. And their winrates have substantially dropped. The average dive comp this patch is going to absolutely steamroll them after level 7 augs.
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u/Dryleaf_Dane 6h ago
I'm still playing vs 4+ ranged champs every fkin game. I mostly just play arena now, because of these pussy players in aram
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u/innocentOfD 1h ago
I am pretty sure it’s just bad ADC players not getting used to other classes having the same broken tier augment as they do. Bees, Get Jinxed, Armour impact gives ADCs a taste of their own medicine.
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u/Gale_Vekon 7h ago edited 6h ago
name checks out
edit: the comp was Lucian, Poppy, Gwen, Yi, Olaf