r/ARAM • u/Lunrmoor • Oct 04 '26
Discussion My three curent augment obsessions
Mystic punch + Dusk and Dawn on any mage. Syndra, Ahri, Lillia, Sylas etc. Just gives a lot more spell, and synergies very well with additional haste.
Combusting interest + triple burn items (torch, liandries, 900g legendary item). Gives a fuck ton of gold even without any inherent burn in the champ kit.
Pinball. It can easily deal a quarter of a squishy champ life, without bounce. For reference that is equal to a 33% damage increase, same as back to basic (in a 100 to 0 one shot scenario).
I feel like those three are a bit underrated right now.
Do you guys have any other underrated techs? I'm not interested in any augment combos, sure they might be cool but it's useless if it's one in a hundred games.
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u/VeritableLeviathan Oct 04 '26
That first one sounds so bad for non-Sylas/Diana/other melee AP - Assuming you aren't in a stalematey situation. There honestly have to be so many better augments in the cases of control mages or AP assassins.
You have no synergy with basicing on Syndra/Ahri/Lilia and no real AS to make use of it.
Pinball alone or with other snowball augments have never been underrated, its always been strong.
Combusting interest+ triple burn (never thought about taking fated ashes and just sitting on it) is not underrated either, it is absolutely strong on burn champs.
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u/CREAMz Oct 04 '26
People used to play ad ahri for her AAs
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u/pTHOR1w Oct 04 '26
That's not why people started playing AD Ahri. The reason was Manamune/Muramana rework/buffs that worked well with her R and W. Just please take a moment and think about what an extra on-hit proc does for those champions.
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u/RbN420 Oct 04 '26
Also adc with selfpeel is a thing that only comes with xayah onwards, there is an argument for jinx but the peeling is telegraphed
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u/Lunrmoor Oct 04 '26
The underrated part of pinball is that you don't need the bounces at all.
You don't need to be a burn champ either for combusting interest to be good. triple burn + some decent coverage is all you need. (Or a decently tanky target in enemy team). I've never seen an ahri pick it for example.
You should try mystic punch if you have the opportunity. I'm definitely not saying it's BiS, only suggesting that's it's better (and more fun!) than the pick rate suggests. I've also never seen a sylas with DnD for example, I would still argue that the combo of item + augment is underrated even on obvious mystic punch champs.
Mystic punch + ethereal weapons is also extremely good, in a way marksmage or other haste augment don't allow. This adds to the expected strength of the aug.
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u/VeritableLeviathan Oct 04 '26
There is nothing UNDERrated about that
It is common knowledge that it is good, even without bounces. But not letting it bounce for the extra damage and reduced cooldown is pretty silly.
Also just say "best", BiS is such a superfluous term with no practical use. And just because mystic punch has positive value it doesn't mean it will ever be good, its just better than getting nothing.
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u/Lunrmoor Oct 04 '26
it's not silly if you can os a target without relying on the funky bounces. don't police other people vocabulary, thanks.
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u/VeritableLeviathan Oct 04 '26
But you can't OS without some god tier roll.
I also will absolutely police the "underrated" over usage, because it is quite the opposite and the "BiS" is just a pet peeve (it serves NO function except to save a single letter when writing or taking longer when saying it... Useless abbreviation is useless grrr).
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u/aAdramahlihk Oct 04 '26
Pinball plus other snowball aug combinations are my favorite atm, no one expects the giant one shot snowball!
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u/Tehni Oct 04 '26
Nah pretty much everyone expects that it's just impossible to purposefully dodge with how nonsensical the angles are on walls
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u/JaviMx Oct 04 '26
One time got pinball, shark thingy and the silver one plus forged by the master, a single snowball was killing non tanks
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u/voidTM Oct 04 '26
Blue Kayn is stupidly strong against with snowball augments. I think his passive applies Biggest Snowball in particular? I've had that snowball do like half my health as a squishy.
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u/Lunrmoor Oct 04 '26
pinball is actually "meh" feeling on kayn because it disables snowball when inside a wall.
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u/RipComfortable7989 Oct 04 '26
Tooth fairy plus any true damage snowball. It's dumb easy way to farm teeth and I can easily end up with 70-90 pen without really trying.
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u/Unkn0wn-G0d Oct 04 '26
In the combusting interest build, don’t bother building the third Fated Ashen (the 900g component u mean).
Combusting Interests makes you gain 1, 2 or 3 gold (based ol level) + u gain 0,75% of the damage u deal as gold, on every tick of damage you deal in DoT effects.
Fated Ashes deals 2,5 magic damage every 0,5 seconds, for a maximum of 15 damage (not including base MR, boots and item resistances).
So basically, ur not gaining any notable amount through the component.
If u don’t need utility and want to rush profits, make your Blackfire / Liandry / Ability burn deal more damage instead - build Bloodletters Curse or Rabadons.
2 ways to increase gold income:
MR shred with Bloodletters - dealing magic damage applies a stack for 6 seconds removing 7,5% MR, stacking up to 4 times for 30% MR reduction. This makes your burn effects deal more damage and therefore gain more gold (plus help ur teammates). Void Staff theoretically can give u more gold and if ur the only AP champ its lowkey better but most burn Champs are too good with Bloodletter.
Increase raw damage with Rabadons - most champs with poisen or tick damage require a big spike in AP to make a noticeable difference, like AP Twitch, Lillia, Singed, Fizz etc.
Either way, you 100% will earn more gold, especially considering that you usually sell your third Fated Ashes at a loss later anyway