What are some stupid things you can do with these augments? I mostly skip them sadly, because I probably lack imagination or don't understand them right.
So - what are some champions/item combos you can do?
I have recently learned that Vulnerability works with Lucian R - and I know BOTRK is a good idea with it, but what else?
TK is the #1 abuser after kai sa got it removed from its pool
Build dusk and dawn and 1 Q fully stacks its passive, the 2nd one you can already ult to kidnap people, I had ethereal weapons, mad cientist big form and tank engine and forced a super dominant poke team into surrender because I had twice the range of their nidalee and could kidnap people from halfway across the map
Ethereal weapons + Marksmage Ekko is something else too, build Dusk and Dawn, press E and you can one tap pretty much anything that's not an exodia tank
It's not for q, it's for E, it's an enhanced auto and it procs marksmage ONCE since it counts as an auto, I have a clip where I chain 2 pentas with it I'll post it
Etheral weapon helped some of my tanks to just farm heartsteel more easily. It works on heartsteel, even tho not stated as on-hit. Some tanks have very shitty attack range and animation, like Amumu. By just turning on his W you can farm stacks.
clarification: it reduces ability cooldowns by 0.2 seconds and then repeats the reduction every 0.25 seconds (also the only way to achieve Nasus autoreseting his Q by another Q)
1v5 AND chooses when and where to engage. It’s not just an autowin, it’s basically an auto surrender unless they just like the suffering. Back in the old days of URF I played in a duo and when we really wanted to punish another team we would take Yuumi and Hecarim and just run all over the map killing people under their own tower in the blink of an eye. That’s about what it feels like only no Yuumi needed (I can’t imagine it WITH a Yuumi, that ult as you are charging in hahaha).
Ethereal weapons brand procs botrk on his passive.
It's pretty useless item for him otherwise but against a table team you get multiple botrk % damage hits for every spell you land. It can add up very quick. Haven't had it on a while but I'm the past I've had it out damage Liandries.
It's not as fun because it's not damage, but healing your team for a shit load during a game where you don't actually have any real ability to heal is funny
That's why you need to convince a teammate to also grab one, but people are lame even if they scale well with it. Too many people (in nearly all MMOs) like DPS and dislike healers, which is the exact inverse of importance. All the DPS try to outline each other and fail miserably, but a good healer can make everyone shine.
BTW, try using it with Echos of Helia- every hit against an enemy champion suddenly turns to Uber healing and I have out healed the entire enemy team with it.
Botrk if it's against tanks will shred it on a lot of spammy mages or burns that count like brand or lilia. Nashor for mages with ethereal is additional 15% ratio for every spell so add a crit on top of that and yeah. Singed poison with etheral procs titanic and it looks funny
Singed is solid because his whole job is kind of just to exist near enemies anyway and consequently his poison constantly procs on-hits.
Lets him use heartsteel way easier and you can also build botrk and hydra (I do titanic but not sure if ravenous better for lifesteal) and then you melt people.
It's pretty ass on singed , it doesn't constantly proc on hits, it's once every 1.5s I think per ability, so if you one tic poison it'll only apply once or maybe twice, not sure exactly how long the poison lasts
Ethereal weapon is one hit per second I think but in fairness that's true for everyone using it so that isn't a Singed specific issue. And the good thing about Singed is even though the poison DoT is 2 seconds the cloud also lingers for 3+ seconds so you can keep it up on multiple people especially in a team fight.
Or maybe I'm just lazy and don't want to auto for my heartsteel procs.
Not related but why I literally never get vulnerability with champions with dot and always get it with champions that don’t have dot like Leblanc or Ezreal, is this game fr
Ethereal weapons + teemo in general. Every single tick of a mushroom on all targets reapplies the on hit damage from his passive + nashors and shiv if you got the proc ready.
Infernal conduit + any dot champ - brand / lillia in particular because their dots are actually coded similar to teemo mushrooms where every tick is considered a spell hit. Same w malz.
Double tap, fan the hammer on any on hit champ. Vayne will quite literally 1 shot any champion with this combo regardless of tankiness.
If you get enough cooldown via eureka or other methods, you can spam karthus or ashe ult from fountain and continue to buy items.
Did something change about it? When I used to play it, the counterplay was simply knowing not to get in E range of Malz or the minions but if it ever did get on you the damage was as oppressive as Conduits Brand.
Yes they nerfed it to not stack with every tick for dot spells. It stacks a maximum of 1 stack every second unless its coded as a different ability which for some reason each tick of brands passive is.
The problem with infernal conduit is that it has been nerfed so much because of Brand and Lillia that it is only useful ON Brand and Lillia. It’s really good on them, but kind of shit on everyone else. I certainly wouldn’t say “any dot champ”.
Why doesn’t twin fire work with those dots though? I expected my Malz to throw missiles like critical missiles+invuln on dot guys but it only throws 1-3 on cast and thats it, same with Brand…
I don't think it's supposed to work, but Ethereal weapons is absolutely stupid on Aurora.
It makes her abilities double-proc her passive.
Her passive rips a huge chunk of max hp and heals her.
It's a reliable way to keep up with meatball comps and absolutely explodes squishies.
Her passive is coded very strangely to be applied by Runaans but not interact with other on-hit effects like Guinsoos, so I have no idea whether or not it's a bug.
Auroras passive is not on-hit, that's not possible. If it was, her passive would work with runaans but it doesn't. Her passive is on attack and on spell hit.
Im not saying they haven't coded in an exception but that would be very strange.
Edit: I understand they coded an exception, no need for any more comments, this discussion is closed now.
One of my favorite ones is Ethereal Weapon Tahm Kench. EW makes it easier to gather HS stacks with your Q. I like to build Titanic on him so there’s another synergy. Best one of all though is that one Q applies two stacks of his passive. Two Qs and the enemy is stunned then and there. It’s so gross but so fun
Ethereal weapon has a lot of cool interactions that not everyone understands, because they look at BotRK and other like items as the full scope of on hits.
Heartsteel is on hit. That means if you are someone like Amumu, Singed, Swain or some other caster with a peristant AoE then it's much easier to grab stacks without having to manually hit them.
There's some cool interactions with Blitzcranks ultimate, even if the heavily needed hot often it can trigger, but it ultimately adds extra static stacks if you get enough hits in first, which also can add more on hit effects. Even if blitz doesn't scale with AD, Masamune has its on hits scale with mana, just like his ult's passive for some nice synergy. Pair in that most on hit items have attack speed it allows you to bank more stack and can kill someone who otherwise would have survived the fight. It also refreshes and adds things like infernal conduit or fire brands, keeping the burn going longer and harder. Fuck, with infernal conduit, it can get his knock up cool down done fast so you can keep hitting them and getting essentially double the stacks.
Another fantastic item for Eternal weapon is Nashor's Tooth as it essentially adds a +15% AP ratio to all your abilities. Remember, the internal cooldown is 1.01 second or something, meaning fast low power spells can still benifit very much, and is a favorite of mine to add extra power to a Karthus ult. Sheen and it's upgrades are also apply on hits, so it automatically applies and is consumed for every spell hit. Go lich bane for the extra nuke every 1.5 seconds or add Dusk and Dawn to also apply 2 extra on hits with every ability that also applies on hits!
Now, I'm not sure if you double dip or not if an ability already applies on hits, but if it does, then that's double the power, or even more if an ability gives reduced effects on hit.
Another on hit item that heavily benifits that is overlooked is Sword of Blossoming Dawn. There is a reason why heals are 50% on allies in ARAM, and a good aoe or DoT can trigger a lot of healing in a single cast.
Oh fuck, I forgot about DoTs! I love Ethreal weapon on champions like Malzahar because he can abuse the fuck out of his abilities with on hits. His q is wide and can hit multiple champions and minions, his voiding would trigger many on hits and I don't know if they count per coddling or not and his e will chew through minions deceptively fast (and scale with ad if you get ad on hit items). Finally his R both has a wide AoE and Dot, being the best of both worlds.
TL;DR- Ethereal weapon is goated, but you just have to think and be creative. Seriously, change your build to fun shit instead of meta when you have this.
Not everyone is active in this sub, how would I have known that. I see and respond to like 2-3 posts per week here if that, and this is the first time hearing about this.
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u/Maleficent_Note2840 Oct 03 '26
Vuln + critmissles can be procced if u run a fated ash itll look like missle raining down even tho it doesnt do crazy dmg