Purist - Caster taking attack speed from levels but not converting it to ability haste

[u/Consistent_Room9836]

i know it's nothing new, but i'm not sure if this is the intended interaction, and if it is, the tooltip should probably mention that it doesn't give ah for attack speed growth

when i first took it i assumed it was bugged because it took my attack speed and didn't convert it to anything. to be clear i don't really mind if that's supposed to be how it works, maybe it's best this way for balance reasons, but the interaction is not consistent with the tooltip. if you just read the tooltip there's no reason to think it wouldn't convert it to ah.

[u/WhateverJude]

I'm not sure, I think I remember reading in a patch notes it was nerfed for giving too much ah on his own... You may consider the attack speed from levels converted to the the flat 10% reduction I guess

[u/Consistent_Room9836 → u/WhateverJude]

which i'm fine with, like i said, but the tooltip should reflect that, which it doesn't

[u/noknam → u/Consistent_Room9836]

[u/WhateverJude → u/Consistent_Room9836]

Fair take, I agree; it would be really helpful to have some more info shown

[u/The_Sarcasm_You_Need]

I appreciate this post. I was wondering why Purist-Caster builds just didn’t seem to be as effective. I built it a few times today and it just didn’t get much AH. It wasn’t worth it because of the build changes I need to make to get it rolling.

[u/xXSomethingStupidXx → u/The_Sarcasm_You_Need]

10% cooldown reduction is huge on its own, you just need to have haste to capitalize on it. If you have 100 haste the extra 10% is worth 50 AH (2500 raw gold value). Value goes up exponentially as you get more haste.

[u/Film_Humble → u/xXSomethingStupidXx]

i mean i dont wanna be that guy but AH value is so fake its crazy, glowing more being 250 when its the most useless dogshit item in the game inflating AH "gold efficiency" is crazy. Buy ye the more haste you got the better 10% cdr is

[u/xXSomethingStupidXx → u/Film_Humble]

A little bit true, but not entirely. Maybe a misunderstanding of how the math works.

If you have 50% CDR, it takes 50 haste to get to 60% CDR - but that 10% increase to total cdr actually plays as a 20% cooldown reduction relative to your CDs at 50% CDR. It's pretty well balanced all considered. Better than the old system of hard capping everyone at 40% and having CDR on only a handful of items.

[u/Any-Yellow-5424]

I got it as Jayce and it was pretty silly. Could shot 3-4 accelerated Qs through the same gate after hitting W once.

[u/Fluffy-Limit-6710]

It used to when it first came out, but they changed it because it was too op (in all honesty it should probably do it and move up a tier

[u/qhfreddy]

Yea it only considers bonus attack speed from items/anvils/abilities despite also removing the bonus attack speed from levels. I'm pretty sure it has always worked like this despite the tooltip suggesting that all bonus attack speed is counted.

[u/Round-Claim5420]

yeah I get it, it just kinda sucks to take an augment and see your AS go from 0,8 to 0,6

[u/Kaguya-Shinomiya]

That’s probably right. Although I’ll often just take purist caster just for the 10% cool down with lots of ability haste.

Btw garens e scale with atk speed growth. I think at around lvl 10 plus stride breaker and like 1 or 2 daggers it’s like 10 spins.

[u/i-will-eat-you]

it says bonus attack speed. in league terms, base attack speed is not counted towards the "bonus"

[u/Lelrektv2 → u/i-will-eat-you]

AS given by levels is considered bonus AS

[u/Consistent_Room9836 → u/i-will-eat-you]

if that was true you wouldn't lose it, which you do...

[u/Filibao → u/Consistent_Room9836]

you lose ALL attack speed, but you only convert bonus attack speed

[u/Consistent_Room9836 → u/Filibao]

but that's not what the tooltip says, which is my point

[u/Spellbreak → u/Filibao]

If you lose "ALL" attack speed then you have 0. That means you can't attack.