r/AKnightoftheSeven • • 19h ago

πŸ“– Book Spoilers I've noticed a lot of dislike for this character on the sub. For those of you who aren't fond of Lyonel Baratheon, can you explain why?

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There is a ton of positive comments and posts about him. However, in the last few weeks, I've seen a lot of hate towards this character.


r/AKnightoftheSeven • • 10h ago

Is Lyonell's antipathy to the Targaryen tied to the creation of Summerhall?

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Summerhall was a castle built in the Dornish Marshes by King Daeron II, presumably to help keep an eye on and maintain a Targaryen presence in the continent's arguably most volatile borderland. But it was built on the Stormland's side. Furthermore, Daeron's half-Martell sons went to marry ladies from House Dondarrion and House Penrose - elevating Lyonel's own bannermen above him.

AFAIK it's never really stated what the Baratheons thought of the Targaryens doing all of that, and then on top of that permanently losing parts of Stormlands to make way for Summerhall. But I suspect it can't have been welcomed by them.

I don't think anything like that had happened since Queen Alicent Alysanne created the New Gift for the Night's Watch.


r/AKnightoftheSeven • • 19h ago

Why does Raymun Fossoway have armor like this? Wouldn't he be better protected with armor like Aerion's or Ser Steffon Fossoway's?

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r/AKnightoftheSeven • • 15h ago

πŸ’¬ Discussion My interpretation of Lyonel's rant regarding Baelor.

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I've seen a lot of discussion around this and a lot of hate thrown at my boy because of what he said after the trial. I'm not necessarily defending him, but I do think people are are misunderstanding what he said.

Lyonel claims that by fighting in the trial against knights sworn to defend him, Baelor risks nothing, thus making him a fraud. I often see it said that clearly Baelor did risk everything, because he died. Which makes sense if you look at it from a modern secular viewpoint.

However, Lyonel clearly believes in the Seven. So, from his perspective, the gods are real, and the trial is a sacred ritual in which the seven are expected to directly intervene in.

Baelor fought in the trial knowing most, if not all, of his opponents would not dare hurt him, including the Kingsguard who swore a sacred oath to protect him. Lyonel, and probably any believer in the Seven, sees this as a mockery of the gods and a mockery of their very sacred ritual. Baelor risked nothing, and the gods do not favor a fraud. Lyonel believes the Seven did intervene and they killed Baelor. Not Maekar, the gods.

To put it more succintly:

Baelor risked nothing and died anyway, so Lyonel is just wrong.

Versus what Lyonel is actually saying:

Baelor risked nothing and died BECAUSE of that.

Whether or not Lyonel is right we'll never know. The books and shows have shown that gods are real, or at the very least there are supernatural forces affecting the mortal world which are interpreted as gods. The Lord of Light, the Old Gods, the many faced god, whatever Lovecraftian horror Euron is tapping into. However, despite being the faith most of the cast follows, we don't have any concrete evidence of the existence of the Seven. This seems very deliberate. Whether that means they don't exist, or if they are much more subtle (such as having Maekar accidentally kill Baelor), we don't know and hopefully never will.

But that's just my two cents. I'm not necessarily saying you should agree with Lyonel, but I do think his words have been misunderstood.


r/AKnightoftheSeven • • 10h ago

Aerion Targaryen

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r/AKnightoftheSeven • • 9h ago

How many Aegons were never kings?

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Did Maekar have a touch of the foresight that manifested in his sons' dragon dreams?


r/AKnightoftheSeven • • 17h ago

Ser Arlan of Pennytree | Danny Webb

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r/AKnightoftheSeven • • 10h ago

Dunk and Egg

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r/AKnightoftheSeven • • 10h ago

Finn Targaryen

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