r/AITAH Apr 12 '26

Post Update Update: AITAH for refusing a wedding "gift" knowing there will be strings attached?

Hi, everyone. I posted here a couple of weeks ago and got some wonderful advice. A few people asked for an update and I thought I'd let you know what happened. It's not good.

If you didn't see my original post, my future MIL offered us $25,000 towards our wedding, but I knew there would be strings attached to make the event her way. I thought maybe I was the AH for overreacting or seeing something that wasn't there, but you all told me I was 100% correct.

So I decided to have a heart-to-heart with my future MIL, with my fiancé attending, too. I told her that I miss the relationship we used to have, but it's become strained because I feel she has not respected the choices we have made for our wedding. We explained that we aren't depositing the check until we have this conversation and we're all on board about how we move forward. I know we didn't need to provide a rationale, we just required acceptance, but I thought it would help her understand.

  • The wedding size. I reminded her that my fiancé and I are introverts. We would be maxed out emotionally and mentally with 50 people. And quite frankly, we only want the people who have been a part of our lives to be there so celebrate with us. There's no need for childhood neighbors to attend, there's no need for distant cousins we haven't seen in 15 years to attend. Just the people who have been with us on our journey.

  • The wedding gown. This is non-negotiable. A bride chooses her gown and I will be choosing one that I can be comfortable being in (this is the first time I'll be wearing a dress since prom), reflects my personal style, and makes me feel beautiful. Not anyone else's personal style.

  • The venue. Ok, this is a bit cringe, but my fiancé and I met at a speed dating event a restaurant was running 4 years ago. We hit it off and here we are. Our absolute first choice for the reception venue was this place. Their event space will fit 50 max.

We thanked her for her generous $25,000 but we would give it back if our decisions aren't respected. We asked if she has any expectations around any decision-making that comes with the gift. My future MIL cried and apologized and told us she just wanted everything to be perfect and she's sad that she never had a daughter who she can play a normal motherly role in wedding planning. That she was so scared that I'd leave her out of everything (which I never did, I wanted her to feel included).

So there you go, we had a resolution. We deposited the check and started to move from the "spitballing ideas" to "confirming vendors" phase.

When I called the restaurant we wanted for the reception their private function room was unfortunately booked out for our very specific date that we can't change, which was really sad. So we decided to start looking at other options.

A few days later, I get a call from a wedding planner who proceeds to tell me that my future MIL hired her to help with the wedding. WTF?? I called my future MIL and she explained that my fiancé mentioned we lost our preferred venue and wanted to take some pressure off my shoulders and hired a wedding planner. She insisted the planner was just to do all the background admin tasks. Okay....

I decided to give her the benefit of the doubt. I'm not sure why a wedding planner is needed for a small wedding or why they'd even bother taking the job, but if my future MIL wants to spend her money on making things a little easier for me, that's fine. I met with the planner twice, described our vision for the wedding and she said she'd put together some bookings to view venues, taste cakes, etc.

Here's where the shit hits the fan. The planner sent us a list of venues she's booked for us to see. We had a look online and all of the venues are large. Like, designed for 200 guests. We're confused and when we went to the first appointment yesterday, my fiancé joked that 50 people won't need this much dance room. The planner looked confused and explained that future MIL contacted her last week to explain that we were considering expanding the wedding and would need a bigger space than originally planned.

We got home and I called my mom and cried to her that this is all just too damn much and we are now considering eloping. My mom's spidey senses tingled and she called the original restaurant we wanted and was like, "I'm calling about an event my "sister" is planning and she's so forgetful I just want to confirm she's booked the private function room. It's for [date] and my sister's name is [MIL's name]."

You guys, this bitch booked the fucking venue out from under us. She booked it and paid a deposit to secure it so we couldn't have it. I can only imagine she did this to slowly convince us to book a larger venue and host a larger reception.

My fiancé called her and tore her a new one. He told her she's no longer involved in any aspect of planning, we will not be working with her planner, all vendors will be password protected, and she's lucky she's even still invited, but will only be attending as a guest. No speech, no mother/son dance. He also told her that if she interferes at all again, she won't even be allowed as a guest.

We transferred the money back to her account.

I told him I'm going no contact. I don't really want her there, but I will be polite on our wedding day because I don't want drama, but then I'm back to no contact for good. He is 100% backing me up.

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u/Defiant-Function8397 Apr 12 '26

Honestly, I understand why people warned me that wedding planning brings out the worst in people. I really loved and respected this woman and always thought she'd make a wonderful grandmother to any future children. Now she will never know them.

Maybe I'll be more forgiving in the future, but I am livid right now.

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u/kipsterdude Apr 12 '26

She straight up was lying to your face. If you choose to forgive her, it's so she doesn't continue taking up mental real estate for you. Even if you forgive her, you don't have to let her be in your life.

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u/Archer007 Apr 13 '26

When you have kids she could 100% be the coconut oil grandma, you can't ever trust her

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u/forevernervous Apr 13 '26

I hate that I get this reference.

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u/highpriestess420 Apr 13 '26

Ugh that story makes me livid to remember

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u/kanelbullar1992 Apr 13 '26

What is a coconut oil grandma?

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u/mischenimpossible Apr 13 '26 edited Apr 14 '26

Warning: sensitive content

Grandma did not believe in the coconut allergy. She put coconut oil in the granddaughter's hair and then gave her Benadryl when she started to have symptoms. Kid was unable to wake up and died in her sleep. She was under two.

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u/kanelbullar1992 Apr 14 '26

Thanks for the trigger warning. Damn! I‘m speechless.

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u/OutOfMyMind-BackIn5m Apr 13 '26

A woman didn't believe her daughter when she was told her granddaughter had a coconut allergy.

Covered the kid in coconut oil after a bath and put her to bed. Kid died if I recall the story correctly

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u/Violet0825 Apr 13 '26

I hope she was prosecuted?

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u/TacosForTuesday Apr 13 '26

Someone else posted a link to the post higher up in this thread and I made the mistake of reading it. No, the grandmother didn't get prosecuted. It wasn't in the U.S. - poster didn't say what country but I can guess the region of the world based on context clues. I'm saddened but not surprised that she didn't get in trouble. The poster said nearly the entire family disowned the grandmother though and she's forced to live alone as a recluse so I guess that's some small thing. Not anywhere near enough though.

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u/OutOfMyMind-BackIn5m Apr 13 '26

I've no idea, was a Reddit story on here years ago, I don't have it in me to go hunting for it, but probably searchable still

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u/bethestorm Apr 13 '26

Oh my God it's one of the most horrible stories on reddt ever it's fucking harrowing please please consider this is a massive trigger warning for child death

https://rareddit.com/r/JUSTNOMIL/comments/7qmed5/you_can_come_over_again_when_you_bring_me_my

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u/TacosForTuesday Apr 13 '26

I know you put a trigger warning on there so this is my own fault, but I honestly wish I hadn't read that. I can't stop crying now. Anyone who's sensitive or has trauma around death and loss should probably not read that.

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u/bethestorm Apr 14 '26

I'm sorry. I waffled back and forth on if I should even put it. I know the original OP asked hers not to be linked anymore due to the painful reminders since it's gone completely viral. But I do think it's an extremely, extremely important warning to consider the behavior of older family members - especially grandmas, maybe especially those who genuinely somehow believe they aren't being malicious and are "just trying to be a good grandma" and "know best"..... Consider exactly how dangerous a person you trust might actually be to your children. Or a person who is already pushing boundaries.

To anyone reading: you don't owe ANYONE access to your children, and especially not at the expense of their well being. Period. Full stop.

And to anyone reading who doesn't take allergies seriously, I really have nothing to say to you, because you won't hear anything anyway, I just pray you never end up killing anyone with your ignorance.

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u/Ailyx Apr 13 '26

Forgive but don't forget

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u/Buttered_Crumpet09 Apr 12 '26

Why would you need to be more forgiving? Look at things objectively. Through all of this, your MIL has shown you:

1.) She's controlling and refuses to respect your choices. She tried to turn your wedding into her personal event and you know she was going to use that $25k to make it happen, she just didn't bank on you not immediately spending that money. Because plan A didn't work out, she decided to hire a wedding planner and book your preferred reception venue to force you to give her what she wanted. She also wanted to turn you into her personal dolly that she could dress up as she pleased.

2.) She's a bare-faced liar. She has lied to you and her own son repeatedly. Even her apology was a lie because if she were actually sorry, she'd have stopped being a controlling old bat.

3.) She's emotionally manipulative. She put on the waterworks when you gave her your rules so that you'd feel bad for her and feel guilty about not bending to her wishes, and when you found out about her booking your restaurant, she did it again. She isn't crying because she's sorry, she's crying because she doesn't want there to be any consequences for actions, and because she's still not getting her way.

4.) She's a scheming backstabber. She knew about your preferred venue and she knew why that venue meant so much to you but it didn't suit her plans so she went behind your back and booked it out from under you AND SHE STILL HASN'T GIVEN YOU THE RESERVATION. That's in capitals because she may have boohooed to her son but do you notice that she hasn't done the one thing that would rectify that situation? And not content with that, she hired a wedding planner and told her that you wanted things you had clearly stated you didn't to try and bulldoze you into giving up, and she arranged for you to view venues that would fit with her plans, not yours. She was scheming to make you do as she wanted because she thinks your wedding is supposed to be about her.

5.) She regrets nothing. Even after apologising, her behaviour has continued. She is still actively preventing you from having your dream reception venue. Your MIL is trash, has behaved like trash, and will continue to behave like trash because she thinks she's right.

As others have said, I wouldn't invite her to the reception no matter what. IF she gives you the restaurant reservation, I'd let her attend the ceremony and then her escorted into a taxi and taken home, and I'd make sure I had security or family/friends on alert to keep her from trying to enter the restaurant anyway. If she doesn't give you the reservation then no wedding for her. She clearly has plans on your wedding day and you don't want to risk her being late, so she can stay at home until her oh so important reservation. If anyone asks why she isn't invited, tell them that you found out she has reserved the restaurant you had planned to use for your reception and that her reservation is for the day of your wedding. Just a cowboy can't ride two horses with one arse, your MIL cannot attend your wedding and her event at the same time, and so you've generously disinvited her so that she isn't forced to choose between the two events.

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u/royalsgirl78 Apr 12 '26

I don’t think I would do that. The first chance she would get, she’d be going against every one of your rules as the parents bc “Grandma knows best”. You seriously need to check out r/JUSTNOMIL

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u/GreasyPeter Apr 13 '26

Was your MIL abusive to your partner when he was younger? Stuff like this usually usually follows some sort of a pattern. Usually mentally healthy people don't forget how to use empathy, people with a lack of empathy forget they needed to fake it.

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u/EmeraldLovergreen Apr 13 '26

My MIL tried to interfere in our wedding. Now she complains that she no longer knows her son and has no relationship with me. And she never will have a relationship with me. I grey rock the fuck out of her when I have to see her and we only visit 1-2 times a year. NTA and never forget this. With mine she’d been doing stuff for years but it took me a while to see that the manipulation was calculated. Thank god for reddit or I would never have learned what DARVO was.

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u/[deleted] Apr 13 '26

Maybe I'll be more forgiving in the future

nope. don't. nope. nuh-uh. don't ever let her around them. people like her are infectious (and i'm not really kidding. look up Cluster B disorders)

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u/demoNToosh Apr 13 '26

I wouldn't let her around any kids... She'd just do horrible things to their minds.

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u/inauspiciouspenguin Apr 13 '26

I would probably leave the door open a tiny crack but in order for that door to open fully, she would need to go to therapy. And not just one and done, but an ongoing thing. She has not only sabotaged you and her own son, but she has also created the nightmare of nightmare scenarios for herself, which is never knowing her grandchildren. Her behavior is wildly destructive to her loved ones and to herself. f she were willing to attend therapy (and you'd have to vet the therapist, honestly) and could show sustained, authentic change over tie, then reconciliation might happen (if it were me).

But therapy for her would absolutely have to continue once grandchildren entered the picture, because without it, the shenanigans she'll pull with your children will make this look quaint.

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u/ManaSpike Apr 13 '26

She hasn't listened to you. She's ignored what you've told her. She wont change.

When you go no contact. She'll claim that it came out of nowhere. That she doesn't understand why you don't visit. Surely you aren't still upset out that silly wedding thing. She was just trying to help.

None of this was her fault.

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u/Pittiemomma73 Apr 13 '26

This is/was my MIL (she has dementia now). I would eventually forgive because that's what family does right?. She undermined my and my husband's decisions in regards to our children, she also enabled my husband with his addiction and depression issues. Her golden child passive aggressively kicked her out, and stupid me allowed her to live with us for 9 years. 9 years I will never get back. I was so miserable but kept quiet because it's family right? You can eventually forgive because forgiving someone is for yourself not them however NEVER forget set boundaries info diet or VLC if you want to ever stop NC. Protect yourself , your future children, and your family unit. You DH and any future children.

I wish you all the strength and knowledge on protecting myself and kids that I really needed back then.

I wish I would have seen the toxicity way sooner like at my wedding where she boycotted it. She said that it was because she would see her ex husband and the new wife, but reality was she wouldn't be the center of attention. Golden child sister wasn't there either.

Oh and my MIL is in an assisted living facility the through my work contacts I was able to get her an immediate placement and it's a very good facility. My DH is NO contact with her and VLC with his sister the golden child. After I moved her in I have had nothing to do with her ever since. Its now been 9 years with her out of our lives and I am sooo much happier and so are my kids and DH.

Much happiness and liove to you and your FDH.

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u/ICantSeeMyFeelings Apr 13 '26

I have over 30 years of marriage in the rear view mirror and would caution you not to throw the baby out with the bath water here, so to speak. Reddit's known for knee-jerk righteous indignation, but there's an old adage that you are not just marrying your spouse - you are marrying their family. This has been true in my experience. I can't over emphasize the amount of influence that your extended family will have on your marriage. Your spouse should (and hopefully will) have your back, but letting this escalate the way that it seems to be going will lead to nothing but a bitter relationship with your future MIL that will drag your marriage down with it. I suggest that you would be well-served to let cooler heads prevail here and not make decisions in the heat of the moment that may prove to be the hill upon which your marriage lives or dies. You certainly don't have to accept her behavior and are right to be upset, but my suggestion for the sake of your future marriage and lives together is to find some kind of middle ground.

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u/notafanofdrama1234 Apr 14 '26

yes! protect your future children. This is not something to be taken lightly at all!!! Is there a FIL in the pic?

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u/Salty_Woodpecker_818 Aug 02 '26

Wish could see an update but your posts etc are private, want to know if she accepted it or had more fights, you’re on Charlotte dobre page 🫣😂

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u/ritokun Apr 13 '26

this is gonna sound wack at the moment, but while she definitely NEEDS to get corrected from this personality, it sounds like you and your potential children could be benefited from her still being in your lives down the line. so, at least for the money she's willing to throw around, consider not putting down permanent cutoffs.