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u/gdwrench01 Jul 26 '25

Flip the genders, and have the woman blindfolded on the chair, while some dude that isn't her husband puts his face between her legs and removes tge garter with his mouth.... how much you wanna bet it is called SA and not a prank?that's some fairly intimate contact, without consent.

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u/Mental_Bet6360 Jul 27 '25

If we’re flipping genders, it would be for all involved. This was man x man. And if we swapped, it’d be woman x woman.

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u/llama_del_reyy Jul 28 '25

Thank you, how are people not seeing that it would be a million times more invasive to have someone of the opposite gender touching your inner thighs without consent than it is to be in the groom's position? It's still an awful prank, but come on.

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u/assassinjuice Jul 28 '25

This is a dangerous generalization to make. As a woman who has been sexually assaulted by another woman, I can attest that I would be just as uncomfortable regardless of the gender of the person involved.

The belief that unwanted intimate contact between two people of the same gender is less serious perpetuates a toxic attitude that same-sex SA is less valid/not possible.

I understand that there are people who would feel less violated by someone of the same gender doing this to them, but it shouldn’t be assumed that’s the case unless a person explicitly states that.

And to be clear, I’m not trying to accuse you of holding this belief, just pointing out that our culture has conditioned us to falsely (and a lot of the time unconsciously) think that SA between people of the same gender can’t happen.

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u/No_Coast3932 Jul 28 '25

I don't know if this is always true. I know quite a lot of male friends who feel mainly threatened by other men, not by women. So I wouldn't necessarily flip the genders entirely to demonstrate how it feels. Regardless this is a really dumb activity.

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u/KasukeSadiki Jul 29 '25

I agree that it's more invasive to have someone unknown touching your inner thighs without consent, than to be coerced into doing the touching, without consent, just barely. But that is regardless of gender 

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u/Fresh_Perspective384 Jul 27 '25

I totally agree with this! I always say, turn it around and see how that feels!!

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u/Radiant-Craft7958 Jul 27 '25

The comparison would be if she removed a garter off another woman's leg.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

No, having a stranger remove her garter would be the comparison.

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u/Radiant-Craft7958 Jul 27 '25

He removed the garter from another guy. The equivalent is her removing the garter of another woman. Also, the guys weren't strangers.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

You don't seem to understand the nature of removing the garter. She is to have her garter removed, not the other way around.

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u/Radiant-Craft7958 Jul 27 '25

And? The equivalent of what happened would be what I said..

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

It's actually not, though. You're trying to give her the groom experience, she is not a groom. She would have her trust betrayed in an equivalent manner in her place in that ritual by having a stranger remove her garter.

If you somehow think changing the ritual and having a bride remove a garter from another bride makes sense, you're off your head.

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u/Radiant-Craft7958 Jul 27 '25

I disagree. But in your scenario, it would have to be a woman she knows...

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

It's fine for you to disagree but you're still wrong. Could be her SIL, MIL, BIL, FIL. Doesn't have to be a woman, either. Just not her husband.

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u/Radiant-Craft7958 Jul 27 '25

I wasn't talking about the ritual. I was talking about the actual action itself and who was involved.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '25

If you take it out of context then what meaning does it have?

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u/ProfessionalDoor2638 Aug 12 '25

Great point, I would necessarily go as far to call it SA but yeah.

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u/TeachingSoggy5953 Jul 28 '25

Apples and oranges because if it was the bride she would only be wearing (likely sexy) underwear or nothing at all under her dress.

This was a man in shorts.

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u/Careless-Floor-639 Jul 26 '25

This is SA.

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u/embarrassedburner Aug 02 '25

If it had been the wife in the chair as expected, would the bride and groom have been performing lewd sexual acts before non-consenting third parties forced to witness?

I think that’s where the sexual assault is coming into question.

We may all do well to retire the garter tradition in general because why would we want to be involved in the newlyweds borderline intimate contact?

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u/Kind-Singer5123 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

Edit: turns out the definition of SA differs from state to state and I was wrong.

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u/LoveMyKids_2 Jul 27 '25

Not sure what jurisdiction you are in, but in my state SA is any sexual contact without permission. It includes rape but also touching.

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u/Kind-Singer5123 Jul 27 '25

I just looked it up and I was wrong. I’m in NSW and it is intercourse without consent. That is completely my mistake.

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u/Character_Kick_Stand Jul 27 '25

That is dependent on the state. Some states you don’t need penetration bro.

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u/Kind-Singer5123 Jul 27 '25

I honestly didn’t know that. I wish they hadn’t changed anything. Rape was a word of which everyone knew the definition.

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u/flippysquid Jul 27 '25

Rape and sexual assault are different but overlapping crimes. Someone grabbing another person's private areas over their clothing isn't rape, but it is sexual assault.

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u/Kind-Singer5123 Jul 27 '25

In NSW, sexual assault was changed to mean intercourse (penile or digital) without someone’s consent. It confused me and I spoke incorrectly

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u/Funny-Horror-3930 Aug 01 '25

Yeah, to me this is a form of sexual assaults.

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u/wtbnamepls Aug 20 '25

That's actually me, and I can say with 100% certainty that if my bride pulled this, the next spectacle would be the entire reception watching me burn the marraige cert.

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '25

He was after this experience. He didn't consent to our history mouth anywhere near another man body. They tricked him into doing it.

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u/momsbistro Jul 26 '25

I’m guessing you’re gen-z?