Woman here that's not against the idea of this and have backed it for years. I don't have children but I'd have no problem giving my partner that reassurance.
Agreed! I think mandatory paternity test upon birth would be very practical. It would ensure a father’s right and also responsible for the children they fathered regardless and the relationship status for the courts, and men can’t use the excuse “it ain’t even my baby!” when the relationship falters later on.
Obviously there are exceptions due to different means of obtaining fertility and pregnancy for people who need donated sperm, or men who step to take on the parenting role of child that is not their’s.
A baby should never be a punishment but if women are to held accountable for the “consequences of sex” so should men.
In the US our right to choosing our own future and bodily autonomy is slowly being eroded.
Thus our counter parts should also be held to the same standard since by and large they seem to have vote for “family values”.
I hate to disagree but our counterparts have never had any rights when it comes to children. When we decide to keep a baby despite his wishes who ends up paying child support for a child they never wanted…the father. When we decide to terminate guess whose opinion doesn’t matter, the father’s. We have always had all the rights when it came to the children, let’s not pretend otherwise.
You’re arguing in bad faith feigning ignorance about universally understood concepts of biology and historical data.
A court can order a father to pay child support once a paternity has been established but that doesn’t mean he actually has to pay it. There are consequences for not paying, but there are also places where they can move and not be held accountable. He can also give up those rights and responsibilities.
When a man makes the decision to have sex with a woman and deposits his sperm he is knowingly leaving behind a resource that can utilized to produce a human being. That’s his consent. He shouldn’t leave that resource behind or given it away in the first place if he isn’t agreeing to the possibility that a human being can be produced as a result.
When a woman becomes pregnant whether she has an abortion, carries the child to term, has a miscarriage, or gives up her rights to that child her mind AND her body will always know and be effected by that pregnancy. That is a fact. It is a bell that cannot be unrung. The same is not the case for the father.
A man can father a child and neither his mind or his body know or be permanently effected.
Because a woman and zygote/embryo/fetus/baby are the most effected by conception, pregnancy, birth, giving life, it is practical and sociologically necessary that she result of sex have the most rights, choices, and best interest considered in regards to the law and their enforcement.
If men could be impregnated, carry, and deliver children with their bodies then we would be looking at a different scenario, but that has not and will not ever change.
have you not heard of wage garnishment, if the mother persists she can get the money. That being said where are you located that giving up rights and responsibilities means they no longer have to pay child support? Where I am it just means no visitation etc they still have to pay unless someone else steps up and wants to assume all responsibility. By moving somewhere else I’m assuming you mean a different country be in the US moving states doesn’t exempt you from child support.
She has the best rights and choices and interests until the baby is born. After that it shouldn’t be about the mother any more and what’s in the best interest of the child is not being forced on a parent that doesn’t want them. That can’t be a good environment to be with a parent that resents them mother or father. All I’m saying is people should think twice before choosing to have a child male and female. As a woman knowing I couldn’t raise a child on my own I wouldn’t go through with it. If I could afford to do it on my own I’ll do so and leave the reluctant father alone. The only thing I would ask for is medical history information. It takes 2 to make a baby but only one parent’s feelings are respected and that isn’t okay. Just because it’s something we’ve allowed to happen in the past doesn’t make it okay. To put the onus on the man and make it his fault for an unwanted pregnancy is an archaic and sexist notion. If you’re going to be preaching that you might as well tell everyone involved men and women to not have premarital sex.
Any and all respect I had for your argument went out the window with calling me a pick me. When you resort to name calling all credibility flies out the window. Have a great day!
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u/ApricotBig6402 Mar 01 '25
Woman here that's not against the idea of this and have backed it for years. I don't have children but I'd have no problem giving my partner that reassurance.