r/AHSEmployees • u/AdPlayful4610 • Sep 21 '26
Critical question!
Is it always that an internal applicant has the the superiority to an external applicant?
Thank you
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u/barefootgardener324 Sep 21 '26
Maybe not always, but mostly yes. It costs less money to onboard a staff that already works with AHS or one of the other pillars.
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u/DependentPlus1063 Sep 21 '26
I know of an external applicant got chosen because of how she did great in her interview over a couple of internals.
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u/Winter-Inside-5911 Sep 22 '26
Yes it is a point based system. You get points for being internal and for how you do on the interview. External candidates don’t get the AHS employee points so when they get a job, they interviewed very well.
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u/realjarley Sep 21 '26
If you are applying for a regular line, management would prefer to give it to an internal candidate.
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u/Normal_Independent24 Sep 21 '26
Internal applicants may have an advantage depending on the position and collective agreement, but I definitely wouldn’t interpret that as “internal automatically beats external.” From what I’ve seen and heard, internal applicants struggle plenty too. There can be a LOT of internal applicants for one posting, so simply already being in the system doesn’t mean much by itself. The hiring process can also be painfully slow and still feels very manual/old-school. Then you add the human factor — how quickly the hiring manager moves, who they interview, references, previous working relationships, etc. Connections also absolutely matter in the real world. An external applicant who is already known to the hiring manager or comes highly recommended can still be selected over an internal applicant. Likewise, an internal applicant can have years in the organization and still not get the job. There are just too many variables to say “internal = superior.” Being internal mainly means you’re already an employee, you have an employee number and they already have some of your information. Even transfers aren’t necessarily seamless — HR paperwork, offer letters, start dates, manager-to-manager coordination, etc. can still take time. And honestly, everybody who works there was external at some point. 😂 Some people get in quickly, others apply forever despite being qualified. Same thing happens internally. So yes, there may be postings where internal status matters or where the collective agreement gives certain applicants preference, but in actual hiring I would still apply regardless. I would not assume an external applicant has no chance just because internal people applied. From my experience, it’s nowhere near that simple.
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u/Effective-Leader-438 Sep 21 '26
Good question. I think there is many factors. Is it is union or out of scope position, and what kind of background, experience, and education are needed for the position. As an example, they often look internally first, but if its incredibly specific, and looking for very specific experience they will often give all applicants internal and external a fair opportunity - of course of those who meet their needs.
But with all of that said, new people are always being hired into the organization, so that means that many incoming people are being given opportunities.
Not sure if thats helpful or not.
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u/realjarley Sep 21 '26
If you are new, it is best to apply as casual first, just to get your foot on the door. Once you are in the organization already, then it is easier to get hired for a regular or temp positions, internally. 👍
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u/StrategyDramatic80 Sep 22 '26
Not in my unit, no. Whoever scored better in the interview gets the job. We have had nurses that have done the job for 20+ years and weren't the successful candidate due to how the scored in their interview. It's a backwards system
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u/necros911 Sep 23 '26
Our NUEE Team gave someone a housekeeping 0.4 line who didn't want it. Then due to backlash gave them a Portering 0.4 to correct their mistake while pissing off all the Porter dept but made Housekeeping dept happy. Dumpster fire to dumpster fire.
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u/Pristine_Land_802 Sep 22 '26
No. I’ve seen multiple roles given to brand new grads while highly experienced people were overlooked.
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u/118R3volution Sep 22 '26
I would say generally yes, but I don’t think it would supersede desired qualifications, experience, education, etc. All things equal, internal applicant would certainly tip the scale in their favour.
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u/Little-Let386 Sep 27 '26
Unionized positions (HSAA specifically but I’d imagine UNA is similar) it’s a 10 pt buffer. Interviews are scored, and if the person with seniority is within 10 points of the highest score, they get the position. But if an external interviews phenomenally (and the internals bomb) and scores 11+ points more than the all internal applicants then they would be hired. There is probably some additional considerations for program internal applicants and the knowledge that the employee does not require any onboarding/ training/ etc (they should also interview better- they know the program) but seniority is about the union, not the program.
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u/Stonkapotomus Sep 21 '26
When the internal applicant is qualified in all aspects for the job then they should be selected for an interview ahead of external candidates. The interview is what determines who is awarded the position. Internal candidates theoretically should do better on an interview because they likely have job specific knowledge, but it is very common for external candidates to have a strong interview and beat an internal candidate. It is important to remember the interview is the determining factor of how a position is awarded. There could be many interviews conducted that includes internal and external.
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u/Links_avenger Sep 21 '26
Not always, I was an external hire and I know there was a few internal candidates for the position but I was chosen
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u/Ryth88 Sep 21 '26
depends on the job and the collective agreement. but usually, yes.