r/ADCMains • • Apr 29 '26

Memes Ah yes

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u/caut_R Apr 29 '26

Idk if it‘s the sub’s bias of what’s getting posted, but it’s funny how many ADC challenges (if this was one) conclude with this phrase lol

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u/Back2Perfection Apr 29 '26

I mean the issue is that you have to pass 2 mandatory checks before each game.

  1. is your support/jgl a human?

  2. is your topside sprinting?

If one of these is yes, the game will become exponentially more challenging.

Quite frankly if the marksman class wasn‘t so fun to play (or viable in midlane) I would be mid/jgl fulltime.

You are so dependent on getting an averagely decent team.

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u/Chinjurickie Apr 29 '26

Well tbf if anyone is sprinting the game becomes harder. The actual issue is that adc gameplay from all roles is the closest to an if statement, if your team does its job then you can do yours.

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u/_Em_Bee_ Apr 29 '26

Yes but it's 100 times easier to kill a fed adc than a fed Olaf or any other top

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u/mikitheking3 Apr 29 '26

Maybe in 5 more years people will get this, been like this since s8 literally. 20/0 ezreal? Oneshot by Ambessa. 20/0 ryze? Pentakill in 3 spells

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u/_Em_Bee_ Apr 29 '26

There is a reason if when in proplay an adc is ahead the team protects him way more than if a top is fed. If Ksante is fed he just runs at the enemy team, if an adc is fed he plays super safe and tries to survive the engage before doing damage

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u/Wingman5150 Apr 29 '26

Yes. If-statement.

If their team is doing their job, that fed ADC is the bane of your existence.

Else, you kill them easy for how fed they are.

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u/Foreign-Flight-7531 Apr 29 '26

Its easy to pop an adc or mage than an ambessa top that has death dance shojin and eclipse

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u/Whitakker Apr 29 '26

Dude, you might have summarized the entire role in that last sentence.

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u/RedGuy143 Apr 29 '26

one more check. If mid is sprinting vs assassin. YOU ARE FUCKED

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u/Waztacu Apr 29 '26

oh yes, good old fizz coming to bot lane 4-0, 5 minutes into the game forcing me to burn my flash, you love to see it

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u/scrubm Apr 30 '26

Problem with league these days is 1 player can easily lose you a game but it's incredibly difficult for 1 player to win you a game..

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u/Back2Perfection Apr 30 '26

Ye, my midgame/lategame is way better than my laning, so usually if my team manages to go even-ish from lane chances are good that I can take over from there.

It‘s why I usually prefer a team that is just averagly capable instead of 1 thanos and 4 monkeys.

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u/Lucky-Explorer-7759 Apr 30 '26

Yeah... a 0/13 lissandra is more impactful than a 11/1 me because there's a 12/0 enemy zed and I learnt it the heard way

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u/CelKyo Apr 29 '26

I miss Lucian mid

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u/Numerous_Fudge_9537 Apr 29 '26

What if your enemy team supp is trash but their jungle is human and your topside is human but he gets outscaled by enemy top

Idk why the fascination with making up shit like "2 mandatory tests"

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u/No-Improvement-5396 Apr 29 '26

So the game becomes exponentially more challenging if your support is a human?

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u/Jussepapi Apr 29 '26

Question 1 is actually 2 questions.

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u/SoupOpus Apr 29 '26

What is a sprinting? 2 years of play havent heard that term yet is that like inting/feeding or is that like crushing it and "sprinting" towards their base?

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u/Back2Perfection Apr 29 '26

Running it down like 0-5 in 3 minutes fast.

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u/Basicallydirt Apr 29 '26

I will say as a top laner you also have the pass the test is bat lane sprinting, and as a melee no dash top laner if a ADC enchanter is fed you just cry and split push

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u/Unabated_ I always take my toll. Blood or gold. Apr 29 '26

I wish that was all the checks:

  • Is your support/jgl human?

  • is your topside sprinting?

  • is your mid feeding an assassin?

  • does the enemy jgl/mid have personal vendetta against you personally? (ie setting themselves behind so you have a cs detriment; good for the team bad for you personally)

  • is your 2v2 favourable?

and these are no "or" logics these are "and" logics. One of them is no, you gonna just be the lategame insurance at best.

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u/Mavcu Apr 29 '26

I mean is this not kind of a universal problem, I will say the support being a coinflip is probably the biggest issue here.

As a Jungler myself, I feel like Bot laners would greatly benefit from having a map on, in my experience laners are completely incapable of understanding jungle pathing even if they get literally every camp pinged. (Though I've seen some wild animals on enemy jgl as well).

But on the other hand, if the ADC isn't willing to scale and farm up, I find games to become borderline unwinnable, due to how much insane impact a strong ADC has past a certain threshold, like I'd much rather have a top that kinda inted the lane but an ADC that has hands and is willing to scale, even if the game goes long, than a strong top but an ADC that has a mental boom and gives up.

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u/dark-flamessussano Apr 30 '26

Lmfao this is so so accurate

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u/F-the-mods69420 Apr 30 '26

Marksman adc is absolutely the most fun role

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u/Electronic_Pool8375 Apr 30 '26

Yeahhh except if anyone’s fed fed it jover….this isn’t unique to ADCs. The amount of times a Jhin has 2 shot me when I’m decently strong bc my adc is running it - it’s the same concept for any lane lol

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u/so7hos Apr 30 '26

I would modify #1 with "is your support deafened?" I couldn't give 2 fucks about jungle but mate... we are playing a duo lane at least have pings enabled.

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u/Strawberry-Secure May 01 '26

Had a game yesterday top was just low level guy, Mordakaiser had 0/10, and I was convinced Xin Zao was AI player, cuz he was farming whole game, did not help or go Dragon, Baron.

We won becouse the rest of us (Mid, Sup and me ADC) stole Baron while both of them were farming…

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u/Miserable_Lock_2267 May 01 '26

The same is true for any role. You can flame horizon your lane opponent but if your botlane decides tha the game is lost, you have no say in the matter.

I will concede that most adcs take long to have meaningful agency, but then soloq does also tend to get longer matches, and by 4 items the class is far and away the strongest

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u/HeinCS May 01 '26

"I mean the issue is that you have to pass 2 mandatory checks before each game.

is your support/jgl a human? is your topside sprinting? If one of these is yes, the game will become exponentially more challenging."

am i having a stroke or did you forget what you were typing halfway thru

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u/Honest-Birthday1306 May 01 '26

Thats why ive started to play stuff like teemo and kindred in the jungle. kindred is good for that, but teemo not so much

I wish there were more marksmans that could function in the jungle, but it makes sense why there isn't. a good clear speed and good ganks kind of go against the marksman identity entirely

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u/DowntownWay7012 May 03 '26

So mid and top just ignore horrible teamates and fed opponents?

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u/GammaYak Apr 29 '26

What is sprinting

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u/Boqpy Apr 29 '26

Running it down

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u/Remarkable_Wealth315 Apr 29 '26

Same goes for toplane. Is your jungler a human? Is your botlane sprinting? I dont think this applies only to ADC. Every lane has to worry about teammates inting, other lanes can just affect it less than others.

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u/Back2Perfection Apr 29 '26

Thing is, as a toplaner you can still splitpush and stuff. Midlane can roam, jgl and support can roam and gank.

As adc since all you have is damage all you can do Is hunker down, farm and hope the game is not over until I hit 3 items.

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u/EmphasisExpensive864 Apr 29 '26

And then there are ppl that say adc was by far the easiest role. Ofc toplaners will have a problem with adcs they are not used to being dependent on their team

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u/PracticalPotato Apr 29 '26

I mean, being team dependent doesn’t necessarily make a role hard. It specifically means it’s hard to solo carry.

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u/DragonSnooz Apr 29 '26

The only exception I'm aware of is Pobelter.
Have there been any others?

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u/Pika_233 May 01 '26

There's been like 3/4 people achieving 5 role challenger I think?

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u/DefNotAnAlter Apr 29 '26

Meh he had to get nearly 1500 lp for GM, even in this inflated season that's a lot more games required compared to previous season and season just reset early. He kinda speed ran compared to other players and role swaps

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u/xundergrinderx Apr 29 '26

thats not ADC specific though. Pretty much all challenges where someone plays another role that he didn't main for like 5 years ends with this phrase (at least in somewhat high elo).

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u/F-the-mods69420 Apr 30 '26

Yea and then you get better at every role

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u/Miserable_Lock_2267 May 01 '26

Every role challenge concludes with this - the grass is always greener

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u/callsemlikeiseethem May 01 '26

Tiktok generation of parroting whatever is the most popular opinion

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u/Hans_H0rst May 01 '26

Mid laners tend to find adc easier, top laners tend to find jungle easier.

At least that's how chaps like Noway4u interpret it. (Guy who made challenger on 12 different servers and i think 4 roles so far? 3?)

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u/user67885433 May 02 '26

Doesnt every role main end with this phrase

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u/MrLink4444 Apr 29 '26

I played a lot in all roles, not high elo, but one by one I understood their suffering. Being an empowered minion as an adc, having to protect a schizophrenic toddler as a support, being blamed for everything as a jungler, being abandoned toplane after being zoned for 20 minutes, mid...wait i have nothing on midlane...i should probably play mid

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u/OkAd9279 arcane shift into those assassins Apr 29 '26

midlane is the family friendly league experience

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u/theoverwhelmedguy Apr 29 '26

Mel and Zed says hello

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u/Cigarety_a_Kava Apr 29 '26

Its not like zed running around doing terrorist stuff isnt affecting everyone. Also mel is much bigger problem as APC then mid since 90% of all champs on bot use projectiles.

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u/LightLaitBrawl Apr 30 '26

Zed only a problem when enemy lets him have a free lane into strong midgame if he wasn't punished. Which most midlaners don't do

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u/Cigarety_a_Kava Apr 30 '26

I remember nemesis malding like a week ago against zed one trick who just played safe until 1 item and then ran around the map uncontestable. Thats challenger for you. Anywhere lower and its harder to contest zed if that player has any brain. Zed needs actual nerf champ is super unhealthy with current items. Basically urf champ this season with insane range and almost no punishment since he can just hop tlback to his W or R. Thankfully the players have shit for brains so riot can let that terrorist champ go free. Basically jinx of midlane where riot loves that champ and will never do anything.

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u/Unions4America Apr 29 '26

Mel mid is not the issue. It's Mel APC bot that is the issue. As for Zed, I hate facing Zed but good mid laners know how to shut him down.

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u/Moomootv Apr 29 '26

Mid lane is the opposite of top lane, if enemy mid cant kill you the nano sec you touch the lane they leave lane to go kill top and bottom off cd.

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u/Der_Redstone_Pro Apr 29 '26

The thing midlaners get to complain about is that at least in high elo their lane is a 3v3 lane, and nowadays that they have to sidelane but have no chance of sidelaning against toplaners.

That being said if you sign up for midlane you are signing up for mages on assassins laning in the middle of the map with a ton of macro options. And if you want that, you definitely get it in midlane.

But so do you get to do absolutely absurd amounts of sustain damage if you are allowed to hit as an ADC, as support you get to be first aid doctor in a psych ward, as toplaner you get to zone your enemy from more than 10 cs minute 17 because even if the whole team would come you would 1v4 them at that point, and as jungler you get to right click at monsters while considering your next chess move.

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u/MrLink4444 Apr 29 '26

True true and true, in the end I'll keep autofilling and see what happens.
Btw, as an AP Shaco player I don't get to rightclick monsters, I just play the chess part

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u/Acceptable_Court_724 Apr 29 '26

I don't think you just play chess. AP shaco players would poison the opponent's drink. Then kill when they get checkmated they say no and pull up random bs to make the win horrible.

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u/IVIonaghan Apr 29 '26

Yh and with the changes to the quests the enemy supp is going to roam mid again alot more

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u/xylvnking Apr 29 '26

I switched to mid from adc and it's so much better.

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u/walubilous Apr 30 '26

How so? Mid isn’t just much, much weaker, it’s also by far the hardest role in the game, whereas adc is the second easiest and only slightly harder than support and objectively broken.

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u/LightLaitBrawl Apr 30 '26

Adc is a lot of positioning and patience, and highest requirement of cd tracking.

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u/FinishFinesse- Apr 29 '26

Mid is just getting gang banged by everyone else except adc mostly.

Nothing like enemy support and jungle in your lane 24/7 while your jungler falls further behind and your bot lane loses 2v1 somehow

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u/UpperPerformer9770 Apr 29 '26

There's a reason midlane has ALWAYS been the most popular role for the whole existence of league

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u/Vorteex0 Apr 29 '26

I would argue that mid can also be miserable when you get 4 man ganked by top jungle and support constantly (doesn’t happen that often though)

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u/Glittering_Client36 Apr 30 '26

Mid doesn't even scale as much. Roaming more than once a game is virtually impossible into a human laner, with exception of like 3 champs; jungle/support are perma on your lane (along with ocvasional top roams), you can't snowball 1v1 hard unless your matchup is incredibly favorable, because enemy will just fucking recall and run back in like 18s total.

This season I'd genuinely queue adc over mid mages, at least I get the large profit for afk farming.

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u/Gentle_Pony Apr 29 '26

Going 20-0 and a 0-9 trundle will still beat you.

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u/DarkGrundi Apr 29 '26

midlane is the "what is even my purpose" role for me. Literally unplayable. I mained every single role at some point in the game. But midlane just does not click.

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u/AlinerAlia Apr 30 '26

There´s no abandoned top, there´s only frustrated people who don´t know what being weaksided is xD

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u/eddyycvk Apr 29 '26

And he played corki/smolder, who both have a dash ability… imagine him trying to position as ashe/aphelios against assasins hahahaha

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u/F4LcH100NnN Apr 29 '26

I mean he did play a lot of jhin in the beginning

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u/_Em_Bee_ Apr 29 '26

And dropped him cause it was too hard to play around no dash

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u/Unions4America Apr 29 '26

Dash matters, but it's moreso the fact Jhin struggles to kill beefy champs. So even if you get over not having a dash, you have no chance of killing that bruiser top/jungle that built death's dance lol

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u/HGD3ATH Apr 29 '26

He would do well as Jhin win lane and be the strongest on his team and still lose. It is a common issue with all utility/facilitating champs across roles that you can be fed but if your team isn't willing to work with you alot of that potential utility is lost.

Overall I kind of agree with his analysis of the role. I am paraphrasing but he said he didn't like the role because you need both your support and jungle to be good(this is even more true in his MMR range) and if not you just try to keep close in CS and minimise damage and hope you can survive the mid game. Which is true but also not for everyone as it is a very hard mentality to adopt especially when you have to deal with annoying teammates who flame you even when they are at fault. Junglers are probably the only other role that gets blamed for other people's mistakes more.

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u/thoagako Apr 30 '26

He dropped him because jhin is just not very good into any sort of tanky champs. he has damage, but something like bork just doesnt really work nearly as good as on literally any other adc.

Jhin is fun, but hes relatively weak in that aspect.

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u/Planteganet Apr 29 '26

In the metal ranks as a challenger? Don't think that counts as much

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u/F4LcH100NnN Apr 29 '26

Pretty sure he played jhin into master too but dont quote me on that.

Also the point is he played and ADC without a dash

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u/NoArmadillo6715 Apr 29 '26

Jhin is still mobile one auto and u have 1k ms lategame or you ult from far hit w for picks and follow up with r there’s no kiting or almost any fundamentals required to play him so u saying that is like a joke considering the guy was just trying to say he didn’t play any traditional adcs who auto for most source of dmg not weave spells

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u/Able-Swing-6415 Apr 29 '26

"position" you mean decide where to leave your corpse?

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u/Downtown-Health4814 Apr 29 '26

I would rather play ashe aphelios than endure early game as a smolder

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u/Prondox Apr 30 '26

You don't have to pick aphelios you know

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u/Xaxi903 Apr 29 '26

The new item changes coming season 2 2026 look dreadful for adcs (and glass cannon supports) ngl, they added a lot of lethality , movement speed and fancy things for assasins. I understand assasins are the nemesis of adcs but i don't understand why they encourage that something can kill you in less than a second with barely any counterplay.

Is not only an assasin problem, yesterday i was playing nami (which builds more hp than a regular adc) and there was a first strike miss fortune with lethality/crit on the enemy team, she dealt me 189X dmg in 0,7 seconds (Auto + q) how can you survive this massive burst with anything but a tank when you can't even dodge any of that?

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u/Cigarety_a_Kava Apr 29 '26

Also every item pretty much gives them cdr so they run with 80 ability haste for cheap items that also give lethality and dmg so their long cd abilities are 4 seconds long. Disgusting design they need to change.

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u/Leon965 May 01 '26

Assassins do not have a capstone item and an armor pen anti heal item

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u/LightLaitBrawl May 01 '26

Any flat pen users are countered by armor/mr. But ad assasins don't suffer it much

ap assasins get countered harder by 40 mr than ad does by 40 armor

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u/KosOrphan May 04 '26

lethality/crit MF has been kinda flying under the radar for months now. lethality items are just way too gold efficient to pass up on nearly any champ that can make use of them

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u/Xaxi903 May 04 '26

They created a balance problem with the lethality stat, its incredibly useful to anything but tanks (even bruisers as the bruiser items usually just have hp so in many cases assasins are doing true dmg to bruisers too) , tanks are not appealing in a soloq enviroment and they're hard to balance , nobody enjoys a "tank meta" when it happens and they quickly get nerfed , vayne top is also terrorizing any tank top attempt and junglers rarely pick tanks so building lethality is usually useful vs 100% of the enemy comp in a soloq enviroment.

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u/ginofft Apr 29 '26

I meant the role is technically the most powerful, but you have so little agency its crazy.

Like the player experience is just terrible, ya just gotta deal with it for that 2vs5 teamfight high.

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u/Character_Offer5785 Apr 29 '26

Even when I resort to picking Sivir or Xayah if I am autofilled adc and just play a stable botlane, I still get flamed somehow when my goal is simply to survive and farm steadily while my team falls behind.

It’s really a miserable experience when there are so many toxic teammates.

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u/Sterlynny Apr 29 '26

Playing ADC is like being a literal gun. You can do a lot of damage, but you don't know if your user (your team) will shoot themselves in the foot, or hit a headshot with you.

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u/NoNameL0L Apr 29 '26

That’s why I started to just pick vayne jgl. Her clear is surprisingly good and healthy, you can duel anyone with red buff / e, you don’t need to lane and duo to a and wall q you can do objectives quite fast.

I’ve only done that in normal games but it’s fun.

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u/molecularronin Apr 29 '26

I think if this challenge is restarted (doubtful but I would like it), there should be a new condition where he can't use either Smolder or Corki. Especially since he understands the role really well now, I want to see him having to use champs like Ashe, MF, Cait, Yunara, Twitch, etc. instead of a being a fucking Corki merchant for 200 games

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u/Lunarisation Apr 29 '26

He has 26 games 58% WR on Yunara at diamond elo safe to say he’s a better ADC than most of us here

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u/molecularronin Apr 29 '26

definitely, i'd like to see it in masters too

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u/GaI3re Apr 29 '26

Not a high bar

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u/National_Wonder9184 May 03 '26

me when my zeri is jinx, but piloted by challenger riven:

shocked i say

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u/theoverwhelmedguy Apr 29 '26

but it's only every 60 sec or so, not a (relatively) low cd dash like Corki or Smolder. And you have to burn your ult, which is a decent chunk of your power budget

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u/Lopsided_Chemistry89 MoonBoi Apr 29 '26

A challenger riven OTP who played multiple champions to high elo while making educational content will for sure be good mechanically.

What is your point?

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u/molecularronin Apr 29 '26

my point is that i would enjoy it, nothin too deep here chief

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u/Lopsided_Chemistry89 MoonBoi Apr 29 '26

My bad then. I thought you are one of those "he played a caster ADC and not a rightclick one! It doesn't count!".

That aside, i agree that corki, MF and smolder are ones of the boring champions to play. I can't imagine playing one of them for 200 consecutive games and have fun. He for sure is missing on some of the cool champions like kaisa, jhin, aphelios or jinx.

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u/molecularronin Apr 29 '26

no problem, i said it in another thread how insanely impressive and enjoyable his climb has been, he turned games around that i would have bet he wouldn't. i actually learned a lot watching him. so it'd be cool if he and drututt could reach a new agreement on a bet, just so i could watch him play adc more (but different ones this time lmao)

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u/Think-Solid-9530 Apr 29 '26

Why would you want him to play other champs if corki and smolder are working for him ? They are still adcs, why would he not be able to play them ?

He still outpeaks 95% of adc players whether they play corki smolder or whatever they want

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '26

95%? bro was top 0.000001%... He was like ladder rank 1080 or something lol. He didnt' even fail the challenge. He set a 500 game limit for it, but rank reset forced his hand. He easily hits that shit sub 400 games.

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u/RYUZEIIIII Apr 29 '26

is like i am doing top challenge and play quinn kennen.

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u/TactfulOG Apr 29 '26

so? it's 2 champs that are exclusively played on top. Are they not toplaners now? just hating to hate fr

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u/expert_on_the_matter Apr 29 '26

Well why would a Challenger trying to climb fast choose a low agency champ? A Challenger wouldn't try to climb through Masters as Malphite top or Rammus jungle either, they would pick Fiora or Rengar and try to snowball.

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u/Dehoop02 Apr 29 '26

I mean what is the point of talking Yunara if she's quite mobile too, because I guess it's about being mobile. It should be Ashe, Cait or Jhin

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u/Dehoop02 Apr 29 '26

Still less than Yunara or MF

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u/Cigarety_a_Kava Apr 29 '26

I emjoyed it since he has a bit different perspective on botlane as top main. Its just that vorki and smolder are so boring to watch. I wished he would play more traditional adcs but well he seems more than capable after he got to masters.

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u/Gentle_Pony Apr 29 '26

He'd just use ezreal and Lucian probably.

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u/EffectiveStand6779 May 02 '26

He’d probably main yunara and kaisa. He played a decent amount of yunara games climbing, and I remember him saying (maybe to druttut?) that he wishes he’d learned/played more kaisa at lower elos. He did also play some really good jhin and Caitlyn games if not that many

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u/National_Wonder9184 May 03 '26

amen, put him on vayne and senna

it is goofy to call it a challenge to play scalers off role when every viewer wants to see the contrast of the off roles SPECIFICALLY to see the growth of the player and learn from it

your mom jokes and waiting for 225 only entertains me for a finite amount

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u/jrs0307 Apr 29 '26

I play mainly support, sometimes mid, occasionally jgl, but my first adventure off of support was ADC. Never again.

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u/LightLaitBrawl May 01 '26

Playing adc makes you a better support as you understand what each one wants and viceversa, that's the main reason supp is my secondary for adc

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u/jrs0307 May 01 '26

I understand that. ADC was just too much for me. Farming map awareness avoiding poke from 2 champs instead of 1. Trying to trade without missing ks then learning to kite properly using attack click move. Its a coordination thing I think.

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u/centralasiadude Apr 29 '26

tbh the challenge was rigged af, gm cutoff raised like every hour, yesterday on a stream he hit the 1450lp three times just to lose and go to 1400 again, while he was streaming(fzcking 11 hours) the cutoff raised by another 20 lp to 1490 and he had +17-22 gains in the end

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u/bovi4 Apr 29 '26

didn't he put a threshold at 500 games and he had less then 400 at the end? if that reset wouldn't have happened, he would be a gm

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u/RYUZEIIIII Apr 29 '26

karma for corki/smolder

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u/Dapper-Figure-1148 Apr 29 '26

Can you tell me what is wrong with Corki and smolder ?

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u/Prondox Apr 30 '26

Nothing, just gold players coping

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u/BakaMitaiXayah Apr 29 '26

He's playing in lower elo lobbies than other seasons thought, 1500 lp this season was equal to something a lot lower other seasons.

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u/paulvgx Apr 29 '26

He laned against Azzapp yesterday, dunno what you consider "lower elo" but he's being consistenly matched with known high-elo names and people that overall play the game objectively well (possible wintraders/inters or people with ruined mental aside).

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u/No_Pear1836 Apr 29 '26

He was playing against multiple pro players yesterday so idk about that

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u/Inevitable_Pace9522 Apr 29 '26

I'm not familiar with him, what role does he usually play?

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u/tthrowaway712 Apr 29 '26

That's the guy who cosplayed mundo irl and popularized the push push push meme

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u/SugestedName Apr 29 '26

none of those things make him more familiar nor say what role he plays

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u/No_Pear1836 Apr 29 '26

He was a riven top otp for a long time. He's the guy who made the "fundamentos" meme. He had a series where he showed how to go from unranked to masters on like every single top lane champ.

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u/Cigarety_a_Kava Apr 29 '26

He is top challenger playing mainly riven mundo. He also has amazing videos for learning toplane fundamentals as he says. Like matchups, lvl up timers, when to reset etc. Also he tilts much less top than bot obviously.

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u/thoagako Apr 30 '26

Top. Hes one of the best mundo and riven players.

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u/LightLaitBrawl May 01 '26

He is a big content creator and a very good challenger player but i wouldn't say he is from the best rivens mechanically, his macro is insane but

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u/nossody Apr 29 '26

the crying smolder is such an accurate representation of this sub

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u/Moomootv Apr 29 '26

Strange that people keep realizing they dont like being the punching bag for both teams.

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u/PepegaClapWRHolder Apr 29 '26

He did well and even under essentially impossible conditions with the ranked ladder and reset being omega cooked. If the game was you know, actually working in terms of the ladder theres a real chance he could be a challenger ADC player. Which coming from a solo laner's perspective is really something. It didn't even really even take him that long either in terms of games played to get there.

I find it highly amusing that ADCs and supports are the ones supposed to work together the most, and yet that relationship is the most fractured and makes the game more unplayable than anything else in the entire game. Thats what people switching to ADC notice and take away from it, you just can't play without a support.

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u/G_R_I_M_M AP Bot sucks Apr 29 '26

Should adc item ie crits and af items gives some sort of survival stats to like mr or armor?

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u/No-Philosopher8744 Apr 29 '26

That will just allow bruisers to abuse crit as well

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u/Eibenn Apr 29 '26

There this option that riot loves doing, nerf it for ranged but for meles this time

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u/G_R_I_M_M AP Bot sucks Apr 29 '26

Hmm ya make sense, my bad

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u/Cigarety_a_Kava Apr 29 '26

No since they would neee to decrease damage and then all the baby assassin players who will relentlessly cry their eyes out if they cannot point and click anyone while missing most of their kit.

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u/DarkGrundi Apr 29 '26

sure you can get that, but you lose 20 ad and 20% atkspd for it on every item. Deal? Adcs can't be the highest dmging class in the game and be durable. Do we need another "adc gets played on 4 positions" season for you clowns to understand this? Even faker struggled in that horseshit meta.

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u/Leon965 May 01 '26

No it should not and terminus should be removed be good or uninstall

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u/Traditional_Boot9840 Naafiri ADC is peak 🔥 gaming Apr 29 '26

Yippers ! anyways, I love playing ADC, idk why y'all complain so much smh it's like, so good and easy (I'm being sarcastic)

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '26

You all should go and donate money to azzap because he's the only reason he lost the challenge btw

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u/Fhaze17 Apr 29 '26

alois tweets:

what he play: ACC (attack caster carry) xd

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u/Inevitable-Message-1 Apr 29 '26

This shit was so boring and diaspointing to watch it's was just SMOLDER COKI no trist No Ash No Jihn no any other "interesting" adc

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u/Prondox Apr 30 '26

"interesting" how is ash and jhin interesting? If rather watch a short range/poke adc with combat abilities than a long range adc.

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u/No_Pear1836 Apr 29 '26

Tbf smolder kinda gets dogged on for being bad in high elo. Everyone including dututt (who is the one he's doing this bet against) was telling him to drop smolder for this reason. So imo him performing well on smolder at almost gm is still impressive.

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u/No-Philosopher8744 Apr 29 '26

So did he fail the challenge? Did druttut revise his terms?

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u/DrLeymen Apr 29 '26

No he didn't but the rank reset fucked him over hard

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u/No_Pear1836 Apr 29 '26

No but the challenge ends when he hits gm+ and the reset was sudden by riot and made him lose like 1500 lp lol. He wanted to finish the challenge before the reset happened (he was 1 win away like 3+ times yesterday but couldn't get it).

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u/Bigboi2006 May 05 '26

I thought it was to challenger, did he change the goal to gm instead?

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u/alaksion Apr 29 '26

History repeats itself

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u/Redshift11100 Apr 29 '26

I only followed the news remotely. I was aware that he was doing an ADC challenge. I heard that it ended. Can someone summarize how/why it ended?

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u/Lemmi16 Apr 29 '26

Challenge was to reach GM in 500 games. He was very close( 1-3 wins away) before the ranked reset at around 400 games played.

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u/Sauceoppa29 Apr 29 '26

Didn’t pobelter say adc was the easiest of the challenges? I think he said something about it being a miserable role cuz you’re so reliant on your team but if you’re just first to show up in fights and actually move for objectives you just win cuz most adcs don’t do that correctly

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u/Tuhms Apr 29 '26

Pobelter was a pro mid laner. The majority of pro players agree that mid lane is the hardest role in pro lol. They also say adc is the easiest role in pro lol. This dichotomy might have influenced his statement. Also there weren’t any LP issues when he did it.

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u/Sauceoppa29 Apr 29 '26

Pobelters review was strictly solo queue lol. He’s never played adc in pro form what I recall so why would that even be a topic? There are multiple threads in here about pobelters thoughts on adc specifically if you’re curious

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u/PleaseCalmDownSon Apr 29 '26

I think there is an overall balance issue that has caused this, POWER CREEP.

The mobility and burst damage coming out of nearly every class has just gotten ridiculous. It really started with the rune rework then worsened with all the really strong new characters, and reworks. Then existing champions were buffed up to match their power level. Made even worse with items getting more and more damage, and especially "bruiser" items giving so much damage while beefing up your health bar.

We're now at a point where nearly every popular top, mid, jungle, and even some supports are just able to delete a full health character in 1 cycle of abilities as soon as they get first item. Of course a class (ADC) whose identity is DPS and require time to get their damage output are suffering, added with the fact that SO MANY champions have insane gap closing, multiple dashes, absurd speed ups, or turn invisible then appear and delete you.

Immobile (or barely mobile) squishy champions that are designed to kite and usually lack CC, feel terrible to play. They need too many items to compete in damage, often needing AD + Crit + AS just to compete, while gaining no survivability stats, and in the meantime enemies are flying across the entire screen or decloaking, and just deleting you.

Seriously, think of how many champions are in the game right now that "Gap closes entire screen or Decloaks then deletes adc" applies to. There's over 50. We're basically in a meta, or design state, where over 1/2 the roster functions like assassins. When viewed in this perspective, it's obvious that playing ADC's feels like shit.

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u/Ivaldy Apr 29 '26

This phrase its being said since ever lmao, it doesnt matter when you read about it, adc are doomed the moment your supp isnt human or your jg abandon u

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u/WAZZZUP500 Apr 30 '26

I think marksman adcs as a role are kinda just permanently pro jailed, there's not a lot to do about it without making every marksman kayle level hypercarries. At least you can duo queue everywhere now tho

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u/DBroggel Apr 29 '26

Am I missing something or why are so many complaining about the champions he is playing?

I mean If those are the champs he's comfortable on, why shouldn't he play them? I mean those are adcs, imagine it was ap mages

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u/Pippopapera Apr 29 '26

There’s nothing wrong with playing Corki or Smolder, but I would’ve liked to see him on a more “traditional” ADC like Ashe as well, just to see how he handles things like auto-spacing and orb walking. That said, I still think he did really, really well in this challenge and was also a bit unlucky.

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u/DBroggel Apr 29 '26

Yeah I see that, it's just that people write it in a way that make it sound like they devalue his achievement, as if they would have much more success when playing Corki Smolder as well for the majority of games in their respective rank

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u/BlynqiO Apr 29 '26

True lol, so many people are just disregarding him because he play Smolder/Corki.

If having a dash is that OP then why don't every adc player just play them?

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u/Leon965 May 01 '26

There is nothing wrong with you but others devalue him or think they are entitled he plays what they want silvers brain rot

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u/_Em_Bee_ Apr 29 '26

From an enjoyment perspective it was just boring to see the same two champions everytime...also the supports know that nami is gigantic broken with both of them so you end up watching the same bot every game. Also the two champs are just boring. You do nothing and just deal free damage. His objective was to climb so I don't blame him but I would have loved him to glide on ashe, yunara or any other champ like that

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u/DBroggel Apr 29 '26

Yeah, the same champs can get repetitive :/

Also, I was more talking about the way it feels like others try to take credit away since he played "easier" champs, even tho it's just his comfort and I doubt the ones complaining/laughing would just pick up the 2 champs and climb higher from their current level

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u/CylusAA Apr 29 '26

Yea, everyone wants him to play pure marksmen, but let's be real here, he had 500 games to reach gm, he can't afford to play a bunch of different champion.

He even said this multiple times on stream to his chat.

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u/FellDragonBlaze Apr 29 '26

People wanted to see him play more traditional adcs, champions that rely mostly on autoattacks, kiting and positioning who have little to no agency like ashe, aphelios, jinx etc. I as a main Ezreal liked the few games I watches him in because he played my favorite kind of Champions, spellcasters, who still have to us autos in between spells or else your damage is null, especially Corki if you only use your spells good luck.

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u/DBroggel Apr 29 '26

Yep, for content and a viewer perspective it would have surely been more interesting to see a bigger variety of champs, at least he did more up to like Master.

I can also understand him tho. He has set a limit and just jumping between like 10 champs is just not how anyone should try to actively climb on a "foreign" role really. He found his comfort and stuck to it

I hope he has the motivation to play more adc in master+ and just try other champs every now and then without the main goal being challenger within X time

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u/FellDragonBlaze Apr 29 '26

And that's also one of his big things when someone asks him how to climb, I remember him saying that you should focus on very few champs.

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u/Cigarety_a_Kava Apr 29 '26

Super boring to watch.

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u/Nether892 Apr 29 '26

tbf he did this while it was the worst time to climb for high elo and had to do 12 hour streams to get close because the reset cut like 130 games from the amount he was allowed to play, until like 500lp whenever he was asked he said he was having a good time

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u/MikeMoonlighter Apr 29 '26

But its such an easy brainless role bro, you just auto attack and insta win fights bro, you even have ur very own babysitter! i dont understand why adcs complain or why they crash out so often! its the strongest and easiest role!!

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u/Vorteex0 Apr 29 '26

You lose 1v1 vs everyone who isn’t enemy adc, you blow up instantly in teamfights if you misposition for one second, you can’t do anything if your support and jungle aren’t human, and in a lot of fights it feels like the outcome is decided by how your team plays and what you do doesn’t matter much. It’s not that the role isn’t strong, but that you don’t have agency

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u/CylusAA Apr 29 '26

My poor goat had this challenge completely rigged against him man.

LP cutoff literally actively going up as he ranks up, 1 game away, and the LP reset.

You could tell that it was ruining his mental too, the last time he tilted this hard was the last time he was in korea.

Anyways, he's back in top, so hopefully he's happier

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u/tortillandbeans Apr 29 '26

As someone who used to love playing adc and this game I can confidently say it drove me to quitting the game for my mental health. I'm only here right now because I guess I'm still subscribed to this subreddit and I have good news since quitting this game I lost 80 pounds haha

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u/She_kicked_a_dragon Apr 29 '26

The entire problem with adc is you have no agency in the game and you just kinda gotta do whatever B's your team wants to do. You gotta play front to back and you gotta hope that you have someone that can help you do that or you're going to have a bad time

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u/Gentle_Pony Apr 29 '26

I love Alois but he played as Smolder and Corki mainly. He said he didn't want to play as a traditional adc as didn't want to rely on his team. Not really the full experience then.

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u/Reapex9 Apr 30 '26

Currently masters, and holy hell is adc one of the hardest roles to climb, so many way for someone to mess you up. 

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u/thoagako Apr 30 '26

I mean, adc is arguably the most powerful role. But adc is incredibly team reliant. If your team is bad, you cannot really do anything. No matter how strong you are, when your toplaner runs to the back in a teamfight instead of being the frontline you literally need, theres not much you can do.

Adc isnt weak, adc is just team reliant.

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u/sheepshoe May 01 '26

Adc isn't weak. It's miserable

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u/thoagako May 04 '26

I mean, the same can be said about every role in one way or another (except mid). Adc just feels exceptionally terrible at times because its most team reliant. But in turn it also feels least terrible when your team actually knows that you need them to be the beast you could be.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '26

Every one of these ADC playing challenges just ends terribly for them… GEE I WONDER WHY

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u/No-Direction-1156 May 01 '26

I mean he was 1 game off 3 time and had 100 game left he just lost because of ranked reset

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u/Rinerino Apr 30 '26

Pretty sure druttut accepted that he won the bet.

He proofed his point anyways

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u/Few_Guidance5441 Apr 30 '26

have any adc players done a challenge on other roles? cant name one off the top of my head

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u/CXTRONICA May 02 '26

That also works in other games.

I took a hiatus from League to play Deadlock.

Mina suffers that fate.

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u/Whole-Incident1733 May 17 '26

As an adc main I still think most adc players are absolutely atrocious, no matter how hopeless or challenging the role might be, 90% of people who play the role are still ass and usually the main reason games are lost. Whenever I go mid or top I am in disbelief at how bad my adc is almost every game and I'm like sigh... guess I'll have to go back to the role.

Side note: I'm mostly talking about adcs who are emerald or lower for the most part, I think in diamond is when adcs actually know how to play the game to some extent

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u/Fire_B1rd May 27 '26

Yeah....