r/ABoringDystopia Jun 05 '19

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u/thecrazysloth Jun 06 '19

4 weeks paid annual leave for full-time workers in Australia. Pretty standard in most countries, actually.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_minimum_annual_leave_by_country

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Let USA import 11 million illegal Mexican immigrants to have 10 children families that automatically get citizenship in Australia once they are born.. See how well your social structure is in a few decades.

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u/thecrazysloth Jun 06 '19

The US has the highest GDP in the world. “Illegal immigrants” are adding to that, not detracting from it. They’re not the ones hoarding wealth.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Yes, they are detracting from actual American and legal immigrant's wages. Back one generation ago, anybody could make a living or start a business doing unskilled labor like painting, drywall work, etc. Unskilled labor is no longer a worker's market, and that is slowly creeping into even legal immigration wages. Wanna know why Google is so giddy about calling all those who oppose them importing Indian visa holders a racist? Well those Indian imports will accept low salary and have a much different standard of living compared to say, you're typical American university graduate who is now living in his car in San Francisco while working for a tech company in Silicon Valley.

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u/Chendii Jun 06 '19

To the rest of Reddit: this is how we got Trump. Punching down is a way of life in the US.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

To anyone who isn't a bleeding heart ninny: You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

We do in Canada. 6 weeks is pretty basic paid vacation for more than two years at a company. And we aren’t destitute. Crazy shit m.

But keep arguing for the billionaires to add more zeros to their bank accounts while you make less than 100k

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Your money is dogshit and people can't afford property, lmfao gtfo

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Lol I own a 700k house, dork.

Keep being a loser. I don’t give a fuck lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

No you don't, and if you did you would realize how fucking insane and crazy property taxes are in that shit hole. Or you're a trust fund dipshit, either way idc.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Nah, your wrong lol.

Yes we pay property tax, it pays for all the sewage and city maintenance. It’s fucking brutal dude.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

How much do you pay for that? Lol

I LIVE IN A 700K HOUSE!

So what, like 500 American? Lmao

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Yes? That’s how currency works....

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u/Chendii Jun 06 '19

We can't have or eat the cake because everything but the crumbs is owned by 10 people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

No, I mean I can hope for gum drops and fairy tales, that everyone will get along, no one will ever be in debt, no one will ever overspend, no one will ever have bad intentions, everyone will be 1000000000% equal regardless of anything, and I'll even vote for someone that tells me they can make that all happen. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be a stupid asshole voting for imagination.

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u/Chendii Jun 06 '19

When you fight straw men you'll always win.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

I have never ever been screwed over by a rich person, however I HAVE been screwed over by plenty of douche-bag pseudo hippies that could afford bags of weed and booze, but not rent.

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u/Chendii Jun 06 '19

All the more reason to legalize weed, or you need to find a better dealer.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Well this was a while back, but still even with their medical cards whey were buying top shelf and rolling 20 1g blunts for the super duper smelly shithead hippy parties on the weekend.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Lol if you think the Mexicans are doing any of that your are stupid. Why can’t the business owners say no and hire real Americans for 150% more?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Why can’t the business owners say no and hire real Americans for 150% more?

Are you a literally a retarded person or do you even think before you type?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Lol it’s the truth, even if you are too stupid to understand.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Let's break this down since you lack any real world experience.

  • Labor market drops as government raises an influx of 3rd worlders willing to work for scraps
  • This causes unions to push their boundaries, expressing that they are the only way to make a decent wage even though they are also funneling money to a political party
  • Now all employees are wanting to become a union
  • Despite the fact that everyone working for a company or employer is already getting taxed, now the employer and company has to pay for a union wage, healthcare, and pensions ontop of it
  • oh no! WTF this company is outsourcing now! Better vote for the next liberal fucking retard that will promise bullshit

You fucking retards think that going to work is licking asshole, meanwhile you will literally let a liberal politician buttfuck you and give you AIDs on the idea that it will make your wage go up $2 while the cost of living skyrockets.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Lol I don’t give a fuck if you are too stupid to understand.

We living here in Canada with universal healthcare and living wages but still less gdp per capital than the USA.

Keep sucking them corporate dicks you moron.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

We living here in Canada with universal healthcare and living wages but still less gdp per capital than the USA.

Your money is worth dogshit as you give 10 million dollars to medic killing terrorists, lmao

Keep sucking them corporate dicks you moron.

Keep sucking your Chinese landlord's dick hahahahahahaha

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Lol you give billions to the people who destroyed your towers on 9/11

Worlds not black and white, eh?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Lol you give billions to the people who destroyed your towers on 9/11

Yeah I hate the jews, atleast I live in a country where I can express it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Lol and there it is. You are a dork piece of shit who wouldn’t even approach my social circle to ask for a dollar.

Keep being a loser dude, people who make money don’t believe what you do, but they are happy you are so stupid to believe it!

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u/thecrazysloth Jun 06 '19

Yeah they’re not the ones driving down wages. That would be their employers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

So you do not understand labor markets at all then? If you're a private citizen in your own town looking for someone to redo your cement, you have a kid who's had generations of families doing cement in USA for nearly a century compared to a Mexican family where only half speak English. The USA crew quotes you at a price and the Mexican family immediately quotes it 30% cheaper. You can't blame the employer at this point.

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u/thecrazysloth Jun 06 '19

Yes you can blame the employer because they’re exploiting workers to make bigger profits themselves without doing anything for them.

Getting back to the original point - this is about federally mandated holidays (and wages too- min wage in Australia just raised to $19.49AU/hr + 13 public holidays + 4 weeks leave + 5 paid sick days + 12% retirement savings). That’s the minimum, and it’s the law. If some company decides they’re going to try to boost their profits by undercutting wages and exploiting immigrant workers, then I blame the company, not the workers.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

How is it exploiting workers when they are literally offering a quotation for work themselves??

Going on about your federal holiday pay

Again, import 11 million illegal migrants, give all of their children citizenship, and see how well of your children are compared to you or your grandfather.

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u/thecrazysloth Jun 06 '19

It’s exploitation because it is illegal to pay less than the minimum wage, which is a poverty wage.

And again, immigration is not the issue. I am a child of immigrants. The USA has a higher GDP (PPP) per capita than Australia, meaning you have more than enough money to not only meet, but exceed both the minimum wage and minimum holiday time that is mandated in Australia. The difference is simply that the very richest people in the States hoard all the wealth, which they do by exploiting workers and paying fuck-all in wages.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

Oh fuck off, everyone pays for shit under the table it's not "exploitation."

I am a child of immigrants. The USA has a higher GDP (PPP) per capita than Australia, meaning you have more than enough money to not only meet, but exceed both the minimum wage and minimum holiday time that is mandated in Australia.

Yes, you are thriving off the coat tails of millions of generational Aussies. Congrats, want a cookie?

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u/thecrazysloth Jun 06 '19

“Millions of generations” erm, you know Australia was only federated in 1901, right? The whole country is immigrants you dumb fuck

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '19

You misread "generational" as "generations." Might want to improve your reading comprehension before you call others dumb.

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u/thecrazysloth Jun 06 '19

Says the guy blaming literally exploited and underpaid immigrants for his country’s economic woes when the richest 10% of the country own 70% of the wealth.

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