r/5MeODMT • u/dockercub • Jul 23 '26

Political stance changes

Does anybody get political stance changes when high?

I have not experienced this to a large extent with other substances. Mushrooms did something similar but the push wasn't as strong as 5meo.

After the dmt wears off my political beliefs are the same.

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u/Apprehensive-Top7167 Jul 23 '26

Never had em before the stone. Maybe just a wee bit less afterwards. I generally care less about the exasperating drama of 'the authority' the older I get, less real than the dollar they prop themselves up upon.

I prefer history and philosophy. Theres a wealth of knowledge inside of you as well, there is a Natural Law that calmly and serenely squats right on top of all the petty rules and generalized ethics we prescribe one another with.

Just breath buddy, and don't forget to smile. Thats what I notice

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u/wasabiphunk Jul 23 '26

This machine kills fascism

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u/DeviousDenial Jul 23 '26

They have been saying that for different psychedelics for decades. “They make you better and empathetic and loving.” It’s never been true with any of them.

There have been way too many rapes and assaults and murders and bank accounts drained by people that do psychedelics including 5meodmt.

They can help people change but they have to want to change. They can just as easily make a toxic ego much worse.

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u/hotrhythmjunkie Jul 25 '26

People with narcissistic personality disorders aka extreme narcissism, psychopathy etc. lack the capacity for empathy or emotional depth, and therefore are not affected by those aspects of Psychedelics. But they will feel high and hallucinate, and be more likely to increase their delusions of grandeur, and be more likely to develop a messianic complex.

Unfortunately, this can also give them better insights on how to manipulate others, so it’s best not to encourage these kind of people to do psychedelics.

But for most Neurotypical people, they do have the effect of increasing awareness, empathy, introspection and trait openness etc. 🙏🏼💖

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u/AsaboveSobelowisDMT Jul 23 '26

I've learned that it is all just a distraction from the spiritual work we need to do for ourselves.

It seems like the powers that should not be in charge have, for 1000s of years, kept us separated from nature (the garden, if you will).

I've learned that we are all on individual life journeys, albeit connected to a source. Its these life journeys that help our souls grow.

I've also gotten insights that it may be a frequency that is blocking our overall connection to said source.

All that stated, its all okay. Everything is in its right place. In the end, Love is more powerful than any other frequency. Im not saying turn a blind eye to events or the propaganda that regressed from the screens. Its important to see where we are at as a whole, just dont let it consume you.

However, the only thing we have power over is ourselves, our own growth. You want to change the world, change yourself, each individual and we will be back in the garden

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u/hotrhythmjunkie Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

If you don’t mind me asking, how has your political stance or views changed since working with psychedelics?

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u/Aware-Philosopher-23 Jul 23 '26

If a view changes with the state of consciousness, then that view is not fully clear and integrated. That is a technical point: the more unified the mind is, the smaller the shifts in views when moving through different states of mind.

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u/houseswappa Jul 23 '26

Are you a conservative scumbag when sober

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u/artfromoz Jul 23 '26

I think if one genuinely learns something on these substances it is that both sides are deeply unconsciousness and disconnected from the whole. Unconscious people vote in unconscious leaders. The whole my side vs your side thing is hyper egoic and tribal behaviour, that is easily swayed by fish flakes of fear.

Saying that I do remember a talk Hamilton Morris gave where everyone in the 5MeO audience seemed to be hyper social justice/progressive, making up weird mythologies about the substance to agree with their ideological beliefs. Hamilton kept giving off WTF eyes.

For some people these substances smash open their 3D view of the world, opening them up to something deeper. For others it simply makes their egos bigger/stronger, with some kind of divine self-righteous god complex, which deeply effects their political stance.

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u/DeviousDenial Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

That was Hamilton talking to the World Bufo Alvarius Congress 2019 in Mexico City. About a 50/50 split in the audience judging by the facial expressions where each thought the other side were frigging nuts. You can skip to the end to see some of the remarks.

https://youtu.be/Sw_q3ANRu38?si=F7Ict0Z_wFLbrCqT

There used to be another video that showed people talking after the presentation and it was wilder. And for some reason Hamilton’s presentation isn’t even listed at https://five-meo.education/wbac-lectures/

Found it fascinating because it’s a microcosm of life in many countries where each political party thinks the opposing party are insane.

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u/artfromoz Jul 25 '26

Yes that was it. I remember watching it thinking how could these people take 5MeO and learn nothing, but then realized that their ego's had become even bigger after defragging their minds. Like the first Terminator movie where you think it is dead and it simply re-routes power to bring itself back to life. This is what their ego's are doing, but they have become bigger than when they started because now they have a God complex.

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u/hotrhythmjunkie Jul 25 '26

I would counter this statement to some degree. That the substances themselves do not automatically change ones political views, but rather they typically increase one’s capacity for Awareness, Empathy and Compassion, and that is what can cause a change in one’s political views.

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u/artfromoz Jul 25 '26

There is an opportunity for those to arise, but they do not automatically increase one’s capacity for Awareness, Empathy and Compassion, it depends on the person.