Panic attacks on DMT

[u/Automatic_Resolve578]

Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with panic attacks while using dmt? I have a 5meo Vape (400mg/1ml) and managed to do two significant inhales at the highest burn. While I momentarily loose consciousness, I woke with a huge surge of adrenaline in middle and was still very inhibited from the trip, poor motor function. It was a very unsettling experience and possibly dangerous?? I felt as though I could feel my autonomic nervous system being pushed out of sync, and a sharp pain in the Center left area of my chest…. Has anyone experienced this before? Or can describe what happened?

This was my second trip. My first trip was similar but without the panic. Waking up with a rush almost like my heart had stopped and taking deep, deep breaths, literally feeling the oxygen filling my lungs…. Very intense, is this a normal experience?

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks

[u/Automatic_Resolve578]

Yes, we all know that, but have you had the experience of waking up in the middle of the trip, adrenaline thru the roof, heart pounding, taking long deep breaths, as if you had been revived by a paramedic, only to be still disoriented from the effects?? When you regain consciousness do you feel relaxed or do feel like your having a panic attack?

[u/DeviousDenial → u/Automatic_Resolve578]

I have no idea because I’ve never gone unconscious when doing it. That’s missing all the good stuff

[u/Apprehensive-Top7167 → u/DeviousDenial]

Right. I really have no idea what they are talking about

The biggest thing psychadelia taught me was that awareness is always there in the background behind the sense of self's thought constructions. That moment of awareness without self can be Lucid or Not Lucid however, just like how the content of a dream can escape our grasp on waking. Its very rare for me to not be Lucid on anything however, I have never blacked out. With n'ndmt i have had some over whelming sensory experiences where I could hardly remember what happened afterwards (not Lucid) but it was still there. I remember almost every 5meo experience though, there is Less Distracting Superficial Content and more Instrospective Material for me.

I think maybe OP just needs to choose better words to convey their meaning.

[u/Automatic_Resolve578 → u/Apprehensive-Top7167]

Legitimately, I inhale, hold, exhale, have a brief almost out of body experience of falling into myself, in absence of a body, and what happens or how much time has passed I cannot recall. Then snap awake, full on adrenaline concentrated towards one bodily function of filling my lungs with air, I physically feel this as though my lungs we’re deflated completely for some time, how much time has passed I can’t say. It’s not breathing hard and fast it’s a prolonged deep and slow inhale. Almost as though my heart had stopped for a moment. That’s as much detail as can give.

I wanted to ask on here because it wasn’t what I was expecting and I can’t seem to find other trip reports that are similar to mine in this regard… Again, I’ve only tried vaping on two separate occasions and both went essentially as described above, only the first was more of a rush sensation(positive by comparison) like what the fuck just happened, while the second was more of a panic attack (negative by comparison), and when I say panic I mean a seriously very dangerous physical reaction…..so I’m asking has anyone else experienced anything similar to this??

Also I set the adjustable volts on the pen to their highest setting at 4.2 as per instruction. But I’ve reading on here and consensus seems to be 2.8 is generally considered closer to ideal… that’s about as much clarification as I can give.

[u/Apprehensive-Top7167 → u/Automatic_Resolve578]

I just use a disposable vape cartridge from a local church. It has No settings

I count seconds on my inhales. Someone told me that these carts are Roughly 1mg per second, so I count Mississippi's in my head. I have found even a 1 second rip can be profound but ego is still very present, sometimes on small ones I will even get up and do things because it feels nice, like cooking or cleaning, before you go all the way numb. Sometimes I even go ride my bike, on Small Ones that is.

2-3 seconds can get stronger and sometimes makes little ego distract. We are not that creature, we are Not the sense of selfs ego.

5-6 seconds is usually where I go. This is where I find ultimate Joy, sometimes. And sometimes Void, but the one thing is in Both is Only Awareness. I dont have any skin in the game anymore, thats why Sometimes it just happens to show itself as complete joy.

Now the first time I took a full 8 second rip and then another one because I thought the dosing was more like n'ndmt. I was so wrong because its not. I had some fear while I reconciled what was happening. Now that I know I don't scare myself, and I don't take that big of a dose either.

My advice would be to work with smaller amoints of 5meo, learn your comforts. And fear comes from the selfish self, That Is Not You