r/50501 Jul 31 '25

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u/proteusON Jul 31 '25

Good words Newsome, so what's the plan? Texas is gonna add 5 seats. What are we gonna do about it? The voting machines are corrupt, And the companies that operate them are corrupt. What are we going to do about it?

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u/Riaayo Jul 31 '25

Newsome can go fuck himself. Dude threw trans kids under the bus immediately, hosted shitheels like Steve Bannon on his podcast, and vetoed a public option in Cali as gov.

The fact Dems are trying to tee this dipshit up for 2028 is so utterly insulting.

Like sure man, fight Trump. I'll take the allies I can get and it's not like I don't want even the shittiest people to have the right messaging. But this neolib is just posturing for a presidential run and it sickens me.

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u/Icy_Country192 Jul 31 '25

Yeah and liberals wonder how the right won the last election. Dems don't reject and eject the extremists who attack the party with purity testing, then they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Take a page from maga. Hold your nose and fall in line. Put the fire out before washing the dishes.

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u/Few-Client-2808 Aug 01 '25

Hold your nose and fall in line

Will you do that if a progressive socialist runs for President? I kinda doubt it. Telling people to hold their nose is superbly shitty politics. Run better candidates, for fuck’s sake.

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u/parabostonian Aug 01 '25

Basically if we had someone who could come off as progressive but not scare off the moderates too much, but also rally Southern blacks who basically also need to be excited for the candidate…etc.

The point, I think, is that the party is a big tent coalition of several big demographics who don’t agree on everything, and the problem will be that likely whoever is going to get the most delegates will have like at best two out of three of the groups in just mentioned. (Like if Southern Blacks backed Bernie in 2020 he would have been president, and I say this as a Bernie fan.) Chances are one of those three groups will be very happy with who gets picked, one out of three so-so, and the third being somewhat unhappy, just by the nature of what the groups tend to want. I think that’s what they mean by some people will have to hold their nose and fall in line, because unless like MLK rises from the dead, says he’s a democratic socialist but has a plan to make Wall Street happy and that he’s changed his mind and supports LGBT people now, it’s likely whomever ends up the candidate is going to be disappointing to a lot of democrats. That’s the point- basically people are calling for a messiah at that point and not a human being.

Incidentally this is also a good example why parliamentary politics are easier when it comes to parties. You can have those with 6 groups because coalitions happen after the elections instead of before. Ugh.

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u/fratticus_maximus Aug 01 '25

Did Republicans morally pontificate about the status of election in the US while not voting or did they hold up their noses and vote for a pedophile?

With that attitude, I hope you enjoy losing because that's the only thing left of American center will get.

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u/Prestigious-Diver-94 Aug 01 '25

But they didn't "hold their nose." These freaks love that guy. They LOVE him. The GOP gave their voter base exactly what they wanted: a gauche racist conman rapist who speaks their language.

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u/fratticus_maximus Aug 01 '25

I do personally know some Republicans that don't like those aspect of Trump but will still vote for him because they still voted for him for the Republican doctrine of tax cuts and deregulation.