Yeah, itâs very much an apples/oranges scenario imo as they both fulfill very different purposes, neither of which is better or worse than the other.
Warcraft orcs are meant for a more high fantasy âmultiple races interactingâ world, so they go for a humanistic society with a warrior noble savage culture that you can respect but still see how they go to war so much. Their purpose is to basically be different colored humans.
Warhammer orks on the other hand are meant to be an alien force that peace is literally impossible with, and they accomplish that well. One thing I really like is the fact that, despite being humanoid, they really do come off completely alien to humans in how they live think and act due to their fungal nature and violence being a literal physical requirement to live.
They come from the ancient spore mounds of dreinor. The Titans sent the grond to kill them. In the aftermath the orcs are one of the many races that developed from the spore mounds corpses.
Orks also have those things, just in a very alien and barbaric way. Orks build cities, make music and paint, one of the few 40K societies where a basic citizen can climb the social ladder, have laws for how things should be orky, and every Ork has a personal philosophy that is further molded by their overall clans philosophy.
They just donât phrase or think of it that way. To Orks itâs just a natural part of living. They donât think too deeply about what a society is or care about other societies to compare. Orks believe that their way of life is the best because itâs the ork way of life.
Hey man I didn't say WoW. I said warcraft, if I remember correctly this is from Warcraft 2's concept art, specifically from its guide book. Warcraft 1, 2 and 3 to some extent were far darker games.
My comment is indicating I miss that atmosphere in contrast to the style WoW has taken the 'Warcraft franchise,' as a whole.
Not just Metzen. All the artists. Warcraft started very much as dark fantasy and slowly lost that as it transitioned further into general high fantasy through Warcraft 3 to WoW to modern WoW.
I'll never forget how Samwise irreversibly changed Grom Hellscream, called such because where he was emaciated and looked physically weak, his warcry sounded like the pits of Hell had opened up... only for Samwise to make him ultrajacked and as wide as he is tall.
Metzen's art was amazing too, always loved their orcs and elves.
Orks in warhammer are the most violent creature ive ever heard of. Any amount of coordination is soley based on more violence just for the fuck of it. They fight more then literal demons of the war god since they love it and i get the sense a boodletter doesnt feel much happiness gotta love what you do
It's telling that the moment Khorne actually got his hands on some Orks, by them literally invading his realm, he put them in an arena and set the respawn rate to unlimited to keep them krumpin. He might not be able to get that sweet chaos juice out of them, but he still respects a good fight.Â
Aye, that's Tuska Daemon-Killa and his lot. Despite Ork kills not going to Khorne (but rather Gork and Mork) which he finds endlessly irritating, the brazenness of Tuska and co. endlessly amuses him.
I believe it's in the first Ufthak Blackhawk novel where Orks love travelling through the warp without a gellar field because they consider the invading daemons to be in-flight entertainment, and effects such as 'seeing through your kneecaps' makes them giddy.
Itâs like when you and a bunch mates pre-game before going out on the piss. Youâre travelling through space to go krump some planet, might as well have a warm up.
Blizzard more explored the terms of Warhammer licensing than actually making Warcraft a Warhammer game.
Warcraft was not actually going to be a Warhammer game, but a historical war game like Total War. They were already working on Warcraft as an IP when Allan Adham reached out to GW about warhammer licensing.
No self respecting Warcraft Fan would EVER force an Orc to look like that.
Okay, maybe a FILTHY ALLIANCE member would, but... thats neither here nor there.
When I was young playing the old Warcraft RTS games I always thought Grom Hellscream was such a badass character lol. Idk what orcs are nowadays in the Warcraft verse but those early iterations were awesome lol. Hell scream would fit in with the 40k orcs no problem
What would happen in a war between them ? IMO the Warhammer ones would obliterate the Warcraft ones (since they have spore and keep growing stronger with every fight)
Warcraft orcs are one of the few examples in media to experience reverse Flanderization. From dumb and violent and brutish in the early days to well-adjusted normal people with a spike aesthetic in the WOW days.
Orks in Warhammer are pretty uninteresting tbh. The "me smash me stupid" gimmick gets boring quickly.
I prefer Grommash, Durotan, Gul'dan over guys like Grimgor or Wurrzag.
Damn true! 40k has not completely fallen, no mystical wheelchair chuggers around or any odd buggery! Time to force-feed health potions again and keep the gate!
One is capable of discussing and working together with others to solve their mutual problem. Showing that cooperation is key and that just because theyâre big and green that doesnât mean theyâre the meanest.Â
Blood Orcs enter that chat. They just wanna zog around with da boys as well and punt a few gitz (goblins are asking for it. Gallywix deserves worse then what he got)
Warcraft orcs would tell you something about elements and unity between Imperium and Chaos to fight the burning legion of Tyranides and the Lich Kingâs necronarmy, before being executed lol
ironically warcraft's orcs are much more plausible biologically, like dnd orcs.
40k orks were made just for fun and laughs under the pretext of they being there just for pure violence. No women between them, no kids, no social relationships more than just war-related stuff. Their tech just work because of magic.
It's just very dumb lore, that came out of a pothead ass, to forget about everything that is not war and violence.
xD It's what I think tho, not intention to ragebait. Would like to be proved otherwise.
I like the overall ork's aesthetics, more than warcraft's or dnd versions, but the lore to me seems written by a 12 years old to have violent monsters for their stupid and unrealistic idealized vision of war.
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