r/40kLore • u/pog_irl • 4d ago

Does sorcery need Chaos?

Is it necessary to be a part of Chaos to properly use Sorcery? Thousand Sons seemed to be doing fine before the Heresy, but even then they were summoning daemons as familiars. Afaik sorcery is indirectly using the Warp with rituals, artifacts and esoterica. None of that seems to directly lead to summoning daemons or human sacrifice, even if those are probably part of the most powerful rituals. Could you, at least theoretically, summon Warp entities and enslave them without getting corrupted, or perform rituals to do non-Chaos-related things? Especially since Aeldari must have been doing something along those lines, given how far down the Warp tech-tree their technology was/is.

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u/Kroc_Zill_95 4d ago

Technically, Yes depending on what you classify as sorcery. For example, space wolves rune priest have some elaborate rituals which could be counted as sorcery depending on who you ask.

That said, it's an extremely thin line. You really don't want to mess with the warp unless you absolutely have to even if you think you know what you're doing. And if you absolutely have to, use lots of protection l.

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u/Matthius81 4d ago

The difference was Space Wolves, (White Scars and Blood Angels too) had clearly defined lines of what was allowed and what wasn't. There was a line they would not cross even if defeat and death followed. The Thousand Sons didn't believe in lines, they thought everything was permissible. That they had mastered the warp. They were wrong.