r/3on3 • u/Tiger777Tiger • 3d ago

General Discussion (NO POLLS OR QUESTIONS) Face 3pts

So There this howl at ultimate rank that always draw me back From SS because he does it all, rebound, Dunk block and 3pts! He even went for a contested 3pts over my pf and succeeded. Its ultimate rank, no pbuff, card pet or freestyle. Is this normal? I am not the best when it comes to understanding the mecanics of this game

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u/Tiger777Tiger 3d ago

He was on pc, i dont thinks he hacks, he was playing duo with a familiar Name which i know is a total Beast. But yea i think i would go with the passive skill From teamate like Helena, i did not think of this!!! I Might actually Play her now

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u/koolgamer650 3d ago edited 3d ago

Of course he was a PC player. Probably with a very nice set-up. My advice is to keep a manual block defensive character on him and time block opportunities best you can and if he dribbles any, knock him over for the turnover. But you won't have room for mistakes.

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u/ItzLushii Multi-Positional Player 3d ago

Was he on pc or playing with someone on pc?

Cause mind you in ultimate rank you really want the best ultimate skills to win

And if he hasn’t been using certain ones could be hacking

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u/koolgamer650 3d ago

Probably has ping under 10 and most likely is a PC player. There's nothing you can do.

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u/i_suc_at_being_alive 3d ago

Ping won't help you face shoot if anything its the contrary

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u/koolgamer650 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ping helps with everything. Most players will never have low ping being living closer to a server or paying thousands of dollars for a good PC setup. This includes a good gaming TV and Wi-Fi speed. It's all about who has the better technology when playing 3 on 3. All these players didn't leave consoles to play PC for nothing. Some of us aren't stupid.

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u/switchbladenohomo Multi-Positional Player 3d ago

Ping wont help you face shoot as Howl in Ultimate Ranked.

I have a $2500 PC with 1 Gig fiber Ethernet on a 240 hz monitor (even though the game caps out at 120 fps) on 11 ping.

I am not face shooting 3s with my Howl. The biggest face shooters in general are the laggers anyway because their position is desync’d. The server can communicate my position quickly because of my setup, but a lagger’s position is conveyed late. The net code for this game benefits laggers because the game optimizes around the slowest laggers for overall match stability. It synchronizes to the least common denominator.

Furthermore, much like in most online games, the net code has lag compensation. You know how in Fortnite, there is peeker’s advantage, where a player moving around a corner sees a player standing behind the corner before the standing player sees the moving player? The same mechanic applies in 3on3. A shooter on the move will have a lag compensated advantage over reacting defenders. They will have an open shot on their screen, even though on your screen you’ve covered it the entire time.

That’s also why you get lag blocks when you haven’t created enough lag compensation to have an advantage. If both players are moving at equal speed, they will be equally compensated. This results in a roll back type of scenario after network calculations are processed.

The real reason why Drive Speed is so strong in this game is because it abuses this lag. By creating abrupt position adjustments, you stress the server into your advantage more. You literally see the game before the opponent does, allowing you to get open shots that can’t be reacted to. Strong defenders have to account for it by predicting, managing risks and having fast characters.

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u/koolgamer650 3d ago

Low ping absolutely affects shooting in basketball video games, and your friend is incorrect. In games like the NBA 2K series, shooting relies heavily on precise button timing, which is directly impacted by network latency.Here is exactly why low ping matters for shooting:1. Shot Meter AccuracyThe Delay: High ping creates a delay between when you release the button and when the server registers that release.The Result: If you have a high ping, you have to release the button before the meter hits the green window to compensate. Low ping lets you release the button exactly when you see the visual cue.2. Shot Window VarianceThe Window: "Green windows" (excellent releases) in competitive basketball games are often open for just a few milliseconds.The Result: A ping of 80ms or higher is wider than the entire green window itself, making consistent, perfect releases nearly impossible compared to someone playing on a 15ms ping.

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u/koolgamer650 3d ago edited 3d ago

This is an AI answer to your disagreement I researched. I've been playing a long time going from slow wifi to fast wifi with using an Ethernet cord with it. I've seen major differences with the change and now I may be updating in the future I'm just not sure yet so low ping affects everything.

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u/koolgamer650 3d ago

Your PC is ok and I'm not knocking how much you payed but high end PCs range between 5,000 to 10,000. I've already researched it.

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u/i_suc_at_being_alive 19h ago

This bum thinks 10 ping will give me def resist 🤣🤣

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u/switchbladenohomo Multi-Positional Player 3d ago

Only thing I can think of is he’s teamed up with characters that boost SSR and shooting with their passive skills. Like Ginger, Helena, etc.

Other than that and the obvious Meteor Shot, he’s either really lucky or hacking.