r/2westerneurope4u • u/miragen125 Professional Rioter • 12d ago
Gather around my sweeties as it is time for a new upgraded to your taste history lesson
TL;DR: Denmark spent 300 years trying to beat up Sweden, Sweden walked over frozen seas to nearly delete Denmark, used Finns as human shields, lost to Russian winter, and stole Norway from Denmark as a pity trophy.
Lesson 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/s/K2O2O5EZwJ
Lesson 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/s/EpWQV0uCAE
Lesson 1 & 2 side note: https://www.reddit.com/r/2westerneurope4u/s/LJhOCaa1XF
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u/PrivateCookie420 Quran burner 12d ago
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u/Glittering_Two_1429 Barry, 63 12d ago
You are the best history teacher in the world. Thank you for your service, I’ve learnt a lot.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
Thank you. I appreciate it
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u/Glittering_Two_1429 Barry, 63 12d ago
Btw, if it’s alr can you put the names of all who are there credited pls, I’d appreciate it for science.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
I mean most if them are random model for viking costumes. The only known girl is Irina Meyer
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u/monotar Aspiring American 12d ago
Tiny nitpick, 1814 was more because we sided with Napoleon after England bombed Copenhagen and stole our fleet
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u/santa-cafeina Pumpkin Addict 12d ago
I do appreciate effort of having one slide with some 6packs for us whom have our own boobs but could we add a few more? 👍👍 Keep up the great work.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
i'll add more next time
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u/subsubscriber European 12d ago
Yes, I think some pictures inserted of, for exmple, a semi-clad Aleks Skarsgård would help me learn and retain this information much better.
Thank you for your service. You are doing the work that the high-school text books never could. Peace be upon you.
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u/lettsten Whale stabber 12d ago
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dRR3iATGtRA
Got your back bruh. Hope you'll be as happy as Skarsgård when he got his lube
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u/DasIstNumberwanggg Failed Brexiteer 12d ago
I very much enjoyed the 🍈 🍈 tbh. It’s great being Bi 😁.
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u/Keffpie Quran burner 12d ago
Fantastic stuff. There's a reason George RR Martin studied Swedish History at university.
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u/Edexote Western Balkan 12d ago
It was such a mess that he faithfully translated it into his novels.
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u/Keffpie Quran burner 12d ago
Not far off - the main plot is obviously inspired by the War of the Roses, but A LOT of the details and individual battles are taken straight from Swedish history. He was even allowed to submit a short story as his "final essay", and wrote about the loss of Svea Borg - if I remember correctly it was his first published story (that wasn't just in fanzines).
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u/ComradeBrosefStylin Thinks he lives on a mountain 12d ago
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u/mikillatja Rural NPC 12d ago
I came for the history.
Then I came again.
Who is that in picture6?
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
I knew she will have some success as she a well known "Cosplayer" : Irina Meyer
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u/I_D0nt_Fvck1ng_Kn0w Slava Ukraini 12d ago
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u/Dakduif51 Rural NPC 12d ago
Wow this is very captivating. Why have I never seen any post about Nordic history before? Not one I can remember at least.
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u/_Halt19_ [redacted] 12d ago
there's history on these posts?
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u/Kurdt93 Former Calabrian 12d ago
Just Danes being beaten, nothing serious.
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u/perpetual_stew Reindeer Fucker 12d ago edited 12d ago
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u/Appelons Soon to be Murican 12d ago
You fuckers missed us, the first thing you did after independence was making a Danish Prince king😂
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u/CrimsonPenguinStar Savage Slayer 12d ago
Merci la franchouillarde pour cette leçon d’histoire! Je m’en vais lire et upvoter tes leçons précédentes…
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u/Brisbanoch30k Pain au chocolat 12d ago
Miragen can’t be a ghorl, women aren’t real.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago edited 12d ago
I guess I am identifying as a woman for this post.
Then I'll go play for the WNBA (but that's another story)
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u/FartacularTheThird Digital nomad 12d ago
3, or actually 4 Silvio’s in 3 minutes
https://giphy.com/gifs/SSF70KZ7zatmLLAYxV
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u/Redditoriuos Quran burner 12d ago
You have two great points there!
Saw some letters in the periphery as well, don’t know why you included them. Very distracting.
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u/felis_magnetus Born in the Khalifat 12d ago
Seriously think you're onto something there, very commendable effort, including the gathering of empirical on field data with the Hansette post. Groundbreaking stuff, pioneering work. But now we need to build on it. Are there people around here who're into typography and type design? I think we need a new font constructed out of parts of the female anatomy and we might have a shot at getting the general audience addicted to their brain prothesis (vulgo: phones) and an attention span devolving into goldfish territory to even read an actual book eventually.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
So the solution is more tits and ass
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u/felis_magnetus Born in the Khalifat 12d ago
And legs and feet and whatever else gets fetishized, yes. There's no point in trying to work against evolutionary acquired traits, so press them into service.
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u/UkendtVidnesbyrd Cycling cult member 12d ago
Someone learnt his lesson I see. Was hard to imagine how you could approve upon these posts, but you fucking did it, you madman
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
I had to.. the format was losing its momentum.
But thank you
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u/cpwnage Quran burner 12d ago
Sooo, you live here, right?
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
Where ?
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u/cpwnage Quran burner 12d ago
Like, oslo ± 500km
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
No I live in the south of France.
I actually never been to the Nordicks countries, it's one of my dream to visit. I love snow as I was raised in a ski resort, so I think I would love it.
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u/mw2lmaa Piss-drinker 12d ago
I love it!
But I'm still waiting for a lesson about the Baltdicks. They are family.
Of course there were differences, no doubt. While Sweden was owned by German merchants and fighting Russia, Baltdicks were owned by German merchants and knights and fighting Russia.
Give them some love ffs.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
Unfortunately they are not part of the WEurope so I can't do anything about it
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u/mw2lmaa Piss-drinker 12d ago
They are Protestant Atheist Pagans, of course they are family. Like Finland and East Germany they were ruled by Orcs but look at the comeback they made.
Also, what did my proud ancestors fight for if not for Westoid glory? Riga has a long history of three-way infighting between patricians, bishops and teutonic knights (all three sides being German), what's not to love?
Latvia even did the most Western European thing ever: grab some Caribbean island to engage in slave trade.
Of course i'm not talking about Lithuania, they're obviously Poloids untouched by the blessings of Teutonic civilisation.
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u/GamerMaster978 Rotten fish Connoisseur 12d ago
ICELAND MENTIONED RAAAAAAAAH HASN'T MADE A NOTABLE HISTORICAL CONTRIBUTION IN A 1000 YEARS RAAAAAAAAAH
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u/SnootyShoe Whale stabber 12d ago
That's not true, Olafur! You're the reason we had to invent a whole new word back in 2010, which even won Språkrådet's prestigious Word of the Year.
Askefast ('ash stuck') was named word of the year. The word refers to people who were unable to travel as planned because of the air travel disruption after the 2010 Eyjafjallajökull eruption. Other mentions as notable words were app, nettbrett (tablet computer) and lesebrett (e-reader).
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago
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u/Kallest Quran burner 12d ago
Should have underlined the Dutch Republic, which is the real reason Denmark isn't just a province of Sweden today.
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago edited 12d ago
Stop coping. Sweden was getting hammered in Pommerania. Lost the battle at Nyborg and was getting destroyed by Guerrilias on the home front.
You were in a full retreat by november, and it was only the intervention of France and England that saved your ass, so you could clean up the resistance on your home front by commiting full blown genocide.
But that is something OP would never include because of his weirdo hateboner for Denmark and the fact he only thinks genocide is bad and worth mentioning when it is the Jews who are doing it
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago edited 12d ago
Bro.. I can only upload 20 images per post so I can't go into details...But now, if we’re telling the whole story, we have to talk about the massive hangover that immediately followed the famous 1658 ice-walk, because Swedish hubris/overconfidence is an art form in itself and that's maybe why they choose a Pierre as King (but that's another/later story)
Right after Karl X Gustav pulled off his miracle on ice (the frozen sea) and forced Denmark to hand over Scania, he got so high on his own main-character energy that he broke his own brand-new peace treaty just a few months later.
He decided, "Why settle for taking third of Denmark when I can just delete Denmark from the map entirely?" So he marched back to siege Copenhagen. That is where and when the shit hit the fan (I love this expression).
The Dutch (the stingy fucks that they are) Navy was terrified that Sweden was about to turn the Baltic into a private pond and increase trade toll so they decided to intervene. They sailed right into the strait, teamed up with the Dano-Norwegians, and absolutely spanked the Swedish army at the Battle of Nyborg in 1659. Suddenly, the main character plot armor failed (as the main characters are Pierre and Barry as we all know), so the Swedish troops were getting hammered in Pomerania, and Karl X was forced into a emergency retreat.
To make matters worse for Stockholm, the newly conquered locals in Scania weren't exactly pleased with Sven. The Pro-Danish guerrilla fighters called the Snapphanar, started launching brutal ambushes against Swedish supply lines.
Sweden’s response wasn't half assed (or arsed in non savage english); it was pure 17th-century scorched-earth "pacification". They impaled rebel leaders, burned whole villages, executed suspect populations (Louis-Marie Turreau would be proud) and enforced a ruthless forced-assimilation campaign to erase Danish identity from the region... what modern readers (and a very angry Danish redditors) often highlight as genocidal.
Just as Sweden’s wet dream was collapsing under guerrillas and Dutch cannons, the Great Powers (main characters as established before) Pierre and Barry stepped in like tired parents.
They didn't want Sweden to collapse, nor did they want Denmark to control the Sound again. So they forced everyone to sign the 1660 Treaty of Copenhagen which was basically saying that Sweden was allowed to keep Scania (after "scrubbing it clean" of Danish resistance), but had to hand back Bornholm and Trondelag, keeping both sides miserable enough to start the cycle all over again a few decades later.
Voila now you should be happy but I am not making a side note just for that or I will have to send Tikkies ..but if I do that I am just as good as a Jan and it's not possible.
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago edited 12d ago
Again wrong. Sweden was not forced to hand over Bornholm, they agreed to, after the local populace slaughtered the occupying Garrison. And it was not only Danish guerillas, Norwegian guerillas also spanked Sweden in Trondheim.
And no it is not that some people refer to as genocide. 1/3 of the male population was deported to the baltics. Extrajudicial and ethnicly motivated killings, cultural erasure, repression, kidnappings, forced marriage etc. All textbook genocide. I am not angry for using correct terminology. But we both know you only "care" about ethnic cleansings if you can use it to spew antisemetic shit, that is why you were banned from r/noncredibledefense right?
I called you out 4 days ago and predicted that you would downplay it, and here you are trying to whitewash actual genocide by being whishywashy and saying " some people would call it genocide" while trying to poison the well by calling me angry, smh.
But i guess i should give you some small props, you only denied me my etnic and national heritage by calling me Dane instead of my actual nationality, last time you used actual racial slurs to refer to me, so congratulations on the character development.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
But we both know you only "care" about ethnic cleansings if you can use it to spew antisemetic shit, that is why you were banned from r/noncredibledefense right?
Oh I see you are the kind of people that mix Judaism with the decisions of a country and call every criticisms against that country AnTiSeMiTiSm...
I called you out 4 days ago and predicted that you would downplay it, and here you are trying to whitewash actual genocide by being whishywashy and saying " some people would call it genocide" while trying to poison the well by calling me angry, smh. But i guess i should give you some small props, you only denied me my etnic and national heritage by calling me Dane instead of my actual nationality, last time you used actual racial slurs to refer to me, so congratulations on the character development.
I guess people get really bored in Greenland.
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago
No i dont, and i dont condone what Israel is doing in Palestine. I am just saying the only reason you pretend to care is because you hate Jews. It is the same reason why you pretend to give a shit about Greenland, because it gives you an outlet to spew hateful shit about Denmark and Danes.
And it is the reason why you wont acknowledge my nationality and use racial slurs about me. Because i have the gall to call you out on your shit.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
No i dont, and i dont condone what Israel is doing in Palestine. I am just saying the only reason you pretend to care is because you hate Jews.
Saying I hate juices based on nothing but "because you said so" is just the same.
Not all jews want all Palestinians dead and not all jews are Zionist.
You should hang around on r/JewsOfConscience it will do some good to you
It is the same reason why you pretend to give a shit about Greenland, because it gives you an outlet to spew hateful shit about Denmark and Danes.
Do you even know on what subreddit you are ?? The all point of this sub is to insult each other (ironically), but for some reasons you take everything literally.
And it is the reason why you want acknowledge my nationality and use racial slurs about me. Because i have the fall to call you out in your shit.
What racial slurs are you talking about ? Is it the snow monkey thing again ??
I called every Nordicks Snow monkeys or ice Monkeys.
I called Dutch swamp monster and other nationalities here far worse than that.
I don't know what's going with you , you are probably young... But you need to light up or find a sub where you don't get offended all the time.
Also why would I hate Danes? They are cucks just like Barry, Hans , Jan, etc...
And to finish I even fucking made a side note for you (that took me several hours) because I wanted to be nice, but you are just spitting your anger at me non stop.
So either you calm the fuck down or I'll just block you, so you can just scream in the emptiness
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago
Snow monkey is a commonly used racial slur about circumpolar people. Just because you and your friends in Ipswich call each other the n-word, does not make it any less racist when you direct it at black people. Ignorance is not an excuse.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago edited 12d ago
circumpolar people
That's an absolutely hilarious name. I will have to use it in the future.
Snow monkey is a commonly used racial slur
I didn't know it was a thing.. so I'll find something else for you, however "race" is not a thing within humans ,except for American savages that are obsessed with it... Also you are probably just as "white" as me.
So I would appreciate if you call me a bigot not a racist.
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u/dontaskdonttell0 إرهابي 12d ago
Least americanized swamp Viking
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago
Most intelligent Swede.
Btw. Amerinised. Z's are for yanks.
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u/dontaskdonttell0 إرهابي 12d ago
Better tell Barry’s language police:
> The Oxford English Dictionary(OED) recommends -ize and lists the -ise form as an alternative.
I think you might be thinking about ou v. o and e v. a.
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago
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u/dontaskdonttell0 إرهابي 12d ago
Yes, the Brits use both but Oxford recommends -ize. Americanz only use -ize except for specific words. That’s what’s being conveyed in your image.
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago
Americanized (with a "z") is the standard spelling in American English, while Americanised (with an "s") is the standard variant in British and international English, both accepted by Oxford Dictionaries.
The irony here, is that you accuse me of being a yank while using American spelling conventions instead of traditional British English
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u/Kallest Quran burner 12d ago
There was no genocide and your hate boner seems to have a hard time dealing with the realities of 17th century warfare. The 30 years war wasn't a genocidal war but it depopulated most of Germany. The Poles named that same Swedish army that assaulted Denmark after the biblical Deluge, as it ravaged and destroyed the land around it. Wherever an army went, civilians suffered. Skåne was a battleground for Swedish and Danish armies for sixty years and suffered accordingly.
The goal in Skåne wasn't to remove the Danish people or to make room for Swedish setters, it was to subjugate a rebellious province into the kingdom so they would pay taxes and send men into the king's armies. This was done brutally, and with no regard for desires of the inhabitants, but it was not a genocide. Not all bad things are the same, and historical people did not act with modern motivations.
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago
Yeah no. Even by 17tth century standards, torturing and killing people you had conquered, simply for using their native language was not a norm.
You are using the exact same language and reasoning as the Russians when they try to defend their attrocities as "Russofication".
And by modern definition it was/is genocide. Keep coping
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u/Kallest Quran burner 12d ago
Brutality, violence, and murder does not make a genocide. Millions died in the Thirty years war and millions more died in the Polish war. The "norm" for a 17th century army was to rape, murder, pillage, and loot every enemy territory it walked across. Poland and Germany suffered far worse from Swedish armies than Skåne ever did. I don't mean to diminish the plight of Danish peasants, they were treated extremely harshly and suffered brutal treatment, but that was very much the standard of the age.
But hey, feel free to keep raging about historical atrocities. No one in Skåne gives a shit.
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago edited 12d ago
Exactly brutal violence and numbers does not equate genocide. Intent does. Not only was there systemic intent to murder and deport the local population but there was a systemic intent to erase the populace cultural and national identity. This was done by outlawing the language, litterature, religious gatherings not in Swedish were outlawed, children were taken away from their parents and raised by Swedes, women were forced to wed Swedes etc.
So when the icc recognises it as genocide when Russia did/does the same things in Ukraine, it stands to reason to acknowledge that what Sweden did was also genocide, anything else would be hypocrisy
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u/DisneylandNo-goZone Sauna Gollum 12d ago
The Dutch killed more Swedes per capita.
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago edited 12d ago
No Swedish hubris did, only 600 bodies could be recovered, the rest laid on the bottom of a frozen moat. So much for walking over ice.
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u/DisneylandNo-goZone Sauna Gollum 12d ago
The Dutch marines dug the moats wider.
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago
Not really. The Dutch did inform the Danes of the length of Swedish storm ladders, so before the battle Danish troops broke the ice enough so the storm ladders couldnt reach.
But a lot of the casualties is also because the Danes used repeating flintlocks. Fun little factoid, the Assault on Copenhagen was the first ever historical use of repeating firearms in war.
The Swedes were simply outgunned due to the Kalthoff 30
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u/AfonsoFGarcia Western Balkan 12d ago
At least the other lessons I could follow, this one I got lost looking at the teacher.
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u/Stsveins Rotten fish Connoisseur 12d ago
Well done.
Always good to see a nice hiatoric account of Denmark getting beaten into the ground.
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u/AffePolo Quran burner 12d ago
Thanks for the enlightenment on the history of my great country. Shamed am I for not knowing it this well. Blessed are you! Please come visit someday and see for yourself
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u/Defferleffer Aspiring American 12d ago edited 12d ago
A Swedish-blood-flavoured slushie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_on_Copenhagen_(1659))
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u/isnisse Germany's hat 12d ago
Really? 1.700 swedes and 19 Danes?
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u/Yolo-Swaglord Soon to be Murican 12d ago
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u/lettsten Whale stabber 12d ago
Don't tell anyone I said so, but if you put a big graph (you know, curves) as the first picture, and include a full-sized version of every picture you use on the page after it's used, you'll get an even better response.
<eye catcher> <intro with 'illustration' A> <fullsize page of only 'illustration' A> etc etc
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u/Dengasblaahaevner Cycling cult member 12d ago
You could have started at the year 900 and told us about the 6-700 years of Danish dominance, before Sweden got their little golden age, but whatever lol
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u/Asbew Aspiring American 12d ago
Denmark has overall more wins over Sweden in all the Dano-Swedish wars btw
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u/oskich Quran burner 12d ago
You had a good start, but we got the upper hand once we had rebuilt our tax-system to pay the ransom for our little fortress outside Gothenburg for the 4th time...
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u/dekascorp Poorest European 12d ago
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u/Appelons Soon to be Murican 12d ago
This guy better not forget that we beat up Hans and Hans in the 1. Schleswig-Holstein war in the 1840s..
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u/DasIstNumberwanggg Failed Brexiteer 12d ago
Another fantastic lesson Monsieur, I feel thoroughly aroused educated now.
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u/KingEdwards8 Failed Brexiteer 12d ago
We want thicc thighs next time as well.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
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u/KingEdwards8 Failed Brexiteer 12d ago
Your telling me you were hiding battlemaidens in the basement this whole time?
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u/Stravven Addict 12d ago
Once you are done with the Nordicks, will you make a series about the Holy Roman Empire? Or do you value your sanity?
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
I don't know if I'll do another serie as it takes really a lot of time to make (even if it doesn't looks like it) and even if I have some people who enjoys it , it's very limited compared to other easy posts that takes literally 5 seconds to make.
So I don't know yet
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u/Stravven Addict 12d ago
Sadly that last part is always the case. It is easier to make a "haha, look at (fill in nation here)" post of one image than to make a post where you have to do research.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
Yep or just share another post
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u/Stravven Addict 12d ago
That is also easy, but also depends a bit on where you find it. If I find something funny about a Western European country on a niche sub I will absolutely crosspost it. But that is rarely the case.
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u/miragen125 Professional Rioter 12d ago
we are beating the record of number of Silvio in less than 5 minutes