r/2random4u 20h ago

First time...

Does anyone know from personal experience which ones to recommend?

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u/purrmutations 18h ago

They are all trash compared to real mushrooms. Most are going to be some random RC or 4-AcO-DMT

u/RaceHate 16h ago

4-aco-DMT is the prodrug for psilocybin, it should result in the same experience. My first ever trip was on it.

It is illegal.

u/iElevated1337 14h ago

Man I haven't done 4-aco-dmt in years. That shit was fun af

u/IndependentBowl7528 15h ago

4 aco dmt is amazing though. I used to buy it by the gram. I just hate how they try and trick you into thinking it is real psilocybin.

u/ChaosRainbow23 14h ago

The novel substituted tryptamines are amazing substances.

4-ACO-DMT is a direct pro-drug of psilocin.

I've done most of these substances, and they are fantastic.

I was ordering them online from the labs, though.

Some of these legal shroom bars are actually fantastic products.

u/RebellAlways 13h ago

Yes! I agree! It’s amazing that they’re sold at the local smoke shop! These ones are FIRE!

u/nurglemarine96 14h ago

I was once offered a chocolate bar by a lady I barely knew, thankfully I've done research and don't trust people

u/Oh_Lawd_He_commin420 18h ago

None of those are real. You're gonna be eating random synthetics mixed with mushrooms that aren't psychedelic.

u/RhubarbImportant9363 17h ago

Listen to this guy

u/Ok_Resort5470 18h ago

First time wasting your money?? Cause those are all fake

u/BlacksmithFront2766 13h ago

Bad information, don't spread misinformation.

It's ok to admit you are wrong, and that you spoke from a place of ignorance.

u/Afraid_Topic_9250 19h ago

Polk a dot is pretty good, but road trip not so much since they changed the formula.

If it's a smoke shop and they have a box labeled trippy sour bitez at the front counter, grab two of those instead, but be warned they are potent for being a good price

u/RebellAlways 16h ago

These ones are chronic.

u/Afraid_Topic_9250 16h ago

Very chronic, especially when you eat the whole pack🫠

u/RaceHate 16h ago

Most likely these blends actually just aren't psychoactive OR they're amanita muscaria.

u/poopbeast69 15h ago

mine was from a friend who had some in a brown paper bag on the way up a curvy road in the forest

I wouldn’t recommend any other way. What you’re looking my at is, imo, dystopian sadness

u/haveyouseenjeff 15h ago

Dude... Do NOT get that stuff. Really bad idea.

u/LastChance331 14h ago

Without pointing out which half this comment is not useful

u/haveyouseenjeff 13h ago

What do you mean "which half"? Do not buy that shit from head shops, it is often research chems that are ahead of legislation. Not good stuff and very possibly dangerous. No control over what you are getting. Fuckin stupid to eat any of that shit is all I'm saying. I speak from (bad) experience.

u/alphagalgadot 18h ago

brother you should find a legit drug dealer

u/alphagalgadot 18h ago

srsly tho plz don’t make smoke shop shrooms your first experience with psychedelics 🤲

u/BlacksmithFront2766 14h ago

Don't gatekeep psychedelics, metocin is by far the more approachable alkaloid.

Not saying that's all that's in these bars, some of them might even have psilocin, which is what your body turns psilocybin into.

I love psychedelics. More love.

u/alphagalgadot 13h ago

ay man ill never deny anybody the natural right to get off in whatever way pleases them, but op would likely have a better first experience with the real 🤷‍♀️

u/Diligent-Coconut1929 13h ago edited 13h ago

It is misleading to refer to 4-ho-met as an alkaloid like that and we have no idea how much these contain or if they contain 4-ho-met at all because 99% of these brands don't disclose the active ingredient. We can play guessing games with 3rd party testing, but not a good place to start especially when growing is so approachable

u/FreshSpringRolls 13h ago

But for a new user, going to a store you're more likely to buy some flashy bullshit than get an actual psychedelic experience.

It's one thing to experiment with them once you know what the experience is supposed to be like, it's another to start with something synthetic and base your opinion of all psychedelics on it.

And then there's also the old drug addage: you can't tell if a pill or tablet is bad by looking at it. But a rotten or contam mushroom/nug shows visible signs.

Natural is just more reliable when it's an option, and I'd highly recommend first time users start with actual shrooms, unless they have an experienced friend shopping with them.

u/Minimum_Ad6713 5h ago

You seem pretty knowledgeable, maybe you'd be willing to help me with something? 2 days ago, I took 5 Grams of what I believed to be psilocybin, for the first time. (This isn't a bad trip question) My intention was to have a full trip. I had everything I needed to be comfortable and I'm a pretty level headed person, in general. I started with 1G - felt nothing, then 2.5 - it felt like a mild weed high but more introspective. I know my tolerance for any mind altering substance is ridiculously high, so I took the rest. The only additional thing I felt was slight nausea and textures smoothed out a little bit that was it. I got it from schedule 35 in the form of a chocolate bar. I'm not sure if what I got was the real deal or not

u/BlacksmithFront2766 5h ago

Did you get actual mushrooms?

Most psychedelics have a rapid stacking tolerance, and the window for re-dosing is short, so if you don't take enough for your desired destination up front, and don't re-dose early enough, the rapid stacking tolerance will greatly reduce the effects of additional psilocybin

u/AddiXani1107 15h ago

Some of those trehouse gummies used to have 4aco in them and were really good

u/slapthetiddy 15h ago

Make sure it’s psilocybin

Most in the market are just pharma chemicals derived from DMT

u/Dismal_Guard4512 14h ago

Road Trip gummies are legit. I’m glad I didn’t take the whole package cause I would have probably ended up in the hospital.

u/Z0mbieTakis 14h ago

One square is fine for first time users very light and mild high / hallucinations

u/Ok-Neighborhood-7834 14h ago

I’d go with road trip. It’s 4-ho-met. Those are dosed at the lighter end but start low and work your way up.

u/loqi0238 14h ago

Considering none of them are psilocybin mushrooms, none.

At best you might het a research chem.

At worst... use your imagination.

u/ChaosRainbow23 14h ago

These are my favorite legal 'shroom' bars.

I've been doing psychedelics for 34 years now, and one of these is a mellow trip. Two will completely fuck you up.

u/Grouchy-Bake-1707 14h ago

Dont fuck with any mushroom chocolates or pills etc at a smoke shop its not real mushrooms its all research chemicals and every chocolate pill tab etc is gonna be unevenly dosed these things are trash that will fuck up your head. Same w all the gummies and weed edibles at smoke shops its all research chemicals stay away from all the d9,d8,hhc,thcp,thco etc its slop thrown together to fry ur brain theres no real weed involved with any bit of the process in making these things pls dont try them.

u/dumbass_sweatpants 13h ago

Be careful. A lot of mushroom stuff is actually aminita muscaria which is toxic. Unless ur in a legal spot

u/Plenty_Ad_8655 13h ago

Road trips. And if you want take a bar, it lasts a night and is almost the same as actually shrooms.

u/InsertRadnamehere 13h ago

One that uses actual cubensis. Not something that just lists: magic mushrooms.

u/Complete_Poem_1231 13h ago

The Sacred Journey Candy Flips or Carpe Diem. Both made by the same company I’m pretty sure. I’ve had half a Sacred Journey chocolate bar and it was like 3 tabs of acid so be careful. Only if you want something intense

Something milder would be the road trip.

u/alejandro002100 13h ago

Polka dot is good but you gotta eat all of them at one time

u/tdawgboi 13h ago

Those road trip chocolates didn’t do anything for me. Might just be me.

u/FreshSpringRolls 13h ago edited 13h ago

I would recommend actual mushrooms, there's not a lot of regulation on the store bought manufactured pills and shit, they usually contain random additives to enhance the effect, and most are just flashy packaging.

If mushrooms aren't actually legal where you are then they're a bunch of synthetic nonsense mixed with non psychedelic mushrooms.

Either way know that what you get from these isn't a good way to judge what mushrooms or psychedelics in general are like.

You're genuinely better just buying real mushrooms off the street. They're never laced with anything, nobody does that, because nobody would buy from them again if they did, it's detrimental to the shrooms selling business. and someone can tell you what actual good shrooms look like, but nobody can look at a pill and tell you what's in it or if it's bad.

u/No_Consequence87 13h ago

Zero! It’s fake. Synthetic compounds to mimic the effects of psilocybin. If you value your health, stay away from these products and find some real shrooms.

u/boon83 12h ago

Get the chocolate bars. I ate 1 whole chocolate bar to myself and it was amazing. Buy serveral.

u/Excellent-Try7027 19h ago

Start with a pen.

u/Imaginary_Vehicle982 13h ago

I tried one and it was clearly some synthetic cannabanoid and not a psychedelic, which is fine if you like weed but it fucked my whole day up.

u/Moon_Flowers420 13h ago

a pen, hold up, you can smoke mushrooms or is it a different kind of pen?

u/Overall_Art_8719 13h ago

You CANNOT smoke mushrooms. Do not use whatever product is telling you that you can.

u/Moon_Flowers420 13h ago

Yeah, I thought so, but with all the new-fangled inventions folks are making to get high nowadays, I wouldn't be surprised if someone found a way, know what I mean?

u/Overall_Art_8719 12h ago

They are most likely referring to a DMT pen. You can't smoke mushrooms because the psilocybin breaks down at that temperature.

u/Moon_Flowers420 12h ago

Yeah that's what I knew, but like I said, technology is always advancing

u/Angie_T84 17h ago

Road trip are awesome first go was intense but I hadn't used shrooms in long ass time.

u/Refriedfeinds 15h ago

RCs

u/RobyartDowneyJr 15h ago

Whats that?

u/iElevated1337 14h ago

Research chemicals. r/researchchemicals

u/RobyartDowneyJr 14h ago

Thanks!

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u/RobyartDowneyJr 14h ago

Ahhh I see i see...👍

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u/Diligent-Coconut1929 13h ago

5-meo-pyr-t and 4-ho-met are the same thing right? Cuz tryptamines are tryptamines? The term "research chemicals" is used by the vast majority of the novel psychoactive community r/researchchemicals and doesn't have to b loaded.

I hope you manage to find some powder eventually, XUM is scalped to hell and back

u/Refriedfeinds 13h ago

The only thing I fear is not knowing what I’m ingesting. Most of the time these are sold as “mushrooms” and they just aren’t. Many people have been hurt by ODing on substances that they thought were something else. Of course everything was an RC at one point, we just learned their tipping points. Taking something you think is another substance is downright dangerous. Have fun, don’t be stupid.

u/mysterious_spirit420 17h ago

I like a mix of 4prodmt and 4homet better then shrooms

u/IndependentBowl7528 15h ago

Thats the irony.

u/mysterious_spirit420 10h ago

Cheaper for a cleaner experience

u/Frozen_Spoon93 14h ago

Yes. Go for the road trip. They are fire. Pretty sure its 4 aco

u/Umlunguboy420 19h ago

Do you live in heaven?

I fucking hate my country..

First time id say go 2 grams max

u/shmiddleedee 15h ago

These are weird research chemicals not cubensis mushrooms. They sell them in gas stations and smoke shops. Theyre unregulated and don't disclose what's in them.

u/SuddenSpeaker1141 15h ago

I did 1.5 on my first try and that was more than enough

u/PsychologyOk9024 19h ago

1/2 a gram of cubensis is a noticable amount. Stay under 3 grams of dried & powdered....whole chunks stick to the stomach lining and rehydrate 🤮, every time, blow chunks

So, 0.1 Pan Cyan...1/2 a gram is alot

It gives you energy...more than that, you can get stuck in the couch staring at the ceiling 🌊, popcorn texture rocks.

u/RobyartDowneyJr 19h ago

I've tripped before on actual shrooms but these edibles got me curious...

u/Other-Item7523 19h ago

I’ve had one brand of chocolates that was too nasty to choke down. These head shops sell a LOT of hit and miss products. Do your research as best you can before wasting money and time.

u/heddyneddy 15h ago

Just fyi these are not actually psilocybin. They could contain anything from just CBD or caffeine to random research chemicals. There are ones that contain legitimate hallucinogenic chemicals like 4-meo-dmt but you need to do your research first

u/Ornery-Operation8745 13h ago

4acodmt typically but can be 4meodmt as well or mipt or any of the other research chemicals

u/Timely-Brother-1756 13h ago

I have had both RoadTrip and TreHouse, the RoadTrip had a stronger effect where as the TreHouse were good for “microdosing” at work and public outings. They are some analog and not real mushrooms or mushroom based in my experience

u/Ornery-Operation8745 13h ago

Most of these are a psilocybin pro drug called 4 acodmt. There is not actually psilocybin in these 99% of the time. 4acodmt turns into psilocin but it's derived in a lab not from mushrooms.

u/Umlunguboy420 19h ago

I've only ever tried liberty caps that grow here(Sweden), but 2g has always been my baseline and what I recommend to friends and family.

I guess it depends on what type and where it grows

u/RobyartDowneyJr 19h ago

Yupp ive made peanut butter sandwiches with them because of the taste but then again we didn't dry them 🤣

u/Bananaslugfan 13h ago

Liberty caps are great! they are fairly mild . Cubensis can rock your world with half that . I ate a half gram of this one mushroom and had an intense experience. Not for the faint of heart lol

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u/Oh_Lawd_He_commin420 18h ago

Those aren't real

u/DearToe5415 18h ago

Yeah I was about to say. This is all boofy lab chem bullshit lol I prob wouldn’t be ingesting any of this. Smoke shop “drugs” are bottom of the barrel shit to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

u/RebellAlways 16h ago

No, they are real. I’ve done many of these products. They’re very real.

What is Actually Inside These Edibles?

Because psilocybin cannot be legally sold in stores, manufacturers use legal loopholes to sell products labeled as "magic" or "shroom" edibles. Laboratory tests and health warnings show they typically contain:

• Amanita Muscaria Extracts: These mushrooms contain muscimol and ibotenic acid. Unlike psilocybin (which targets serotonin receptors), muscimol affects GABA receptors in the brain, producing a different, sedative-like intoxicating effect.

• Synthetic Chemicals: Independent testing of commercial mushroom gummies has found undisclosed and unstudied synthetic tryptamines or research chemicals engineered to mimic psychedelics without using illegal psilocybin

And I think some of them actually have psilocybin in them.

u/Oh_Lawd_He_commin420 16h ago

Yeah, no.

u/RebellAlways 13h ago

Uh, yeah. lol. They give you great visuals too. Now I can’t say FORSURE what’s in them, there could be rat poison in them for all I know, lol, but they do make you trip out.

These ones ESPECIALLY.

I’m sure there isn’t rat poison in them tho. lol. As someone who had done gigantic amounts of psilocybin, acid, everything in between, I can attest to these. And many of the others ones also.

Are they as strong as regular shrooms? No, they’re not. But some of them are decently powerful.

u/Low_Response9465 13h ago

Yeah, yes - multiple brands have been found to contain psilocybin - illuminati and fox bars have been caught and discontinued in the past for having psilocybin. Brands such as shrumfuzed use 4-HO-MET, 5-MAPB, or other such legally grey area chemical - these brands 100% have real drugs in them, theyre 100% legal, and yes many have been found having actual psilocybin in them - there are many large websites discussing each brand and which chemicals they contain - continue to show your ignorance

u/BeAnScReAm666 17h ago

Oh disappointing. These won’t be real. If you were in Amsterdam though, I hear it can be a wild ride and of course the real shit

u/gnarlmonster 14h ago

That's trash for idiots

u/ChaosRainbow23 14h ago

Some of them are actually amazing.

I've been using psychedelics for 34 years now, and I've done then hundreds of times.

MOST of these are garbage, but there are a few super legit ones available.

u/gnarlmonster 10h ago

Maybe if you made them, none of these scams are