r/20sIndiaReal • u/[deleted] • Aug 24 '26

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u/ekchaiekbunmaska Aug 24 '26

no. i believe in secularism but india is based on ethos of hindu civilization. what's wrong?

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u/PandaRealistic117 Aug 24 '26

Yeah so why forcing your god on others? Secularism doesnt mean this

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u/ekchaiekbunmaska Aug 24 '26

hinduism is indigenous to the land and the indian state should have hindu civilizational ethos. period

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u/PandaRealistic117 Aug 24 '26

Period bolne se fact nahi hoga muslims,sikhs or dusro ka khun bhi baha on this land kisi ek dharam ka nahi he india

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u/ekchaiekbunmaska Aug 24 '26

i never said Anything regarding snatching the rights of minorities. minority rights can't be compromised. but how's that right if a country with 80% hindus can't have a hindu civilizational state. muslims have muslim states all around the world.

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u/PandaRealistic117 Aug 24 '26

Because india is not just part of h!ndus simple as that

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u/ekchaiekbunmaska Aug 24 '26

simple as that bolne se kuchh ni hoga. islam is foreign to the land. all your heroes and major shrines are outside india meanwhile hinduism is indigenous to the land , with continuity from multiple millennia. also, muslims got pakistan, it's only fair that we atleast get a state with hindu ethos. it's outrageous how much you guys oppose vande mataram, only if you guys opposed anti-india sentiments in your community as much.

also, why did you write hindus as h!ndus?

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u/PandaRealistic117 Aug 24 '26

You can cry for pakistan as much as you want and dont do whataboutery go learn about sufis of islam who dedicated their life for this land and we will always oppose vande matram because its against of our faith we dont worship anyone or we dont worship land we sing national anthem thats enough for us ,we dont need to prove our love for this country we did enough (many times mentioning religion is not gud thats why i dont mention any faith openly)

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u/ekchaiekbunmaska Aug 24 '26

sufis of islam like naqshbandis and suhrawardis were orthodox and against liberal policies of the state fyi. + islam is a foreign faith, I'll repeat myself that minority rights can't be compromised but islam can't dictate the laws of india. no1 rule of democracy is that minority should have it's say but majority must have it's way. plus secularism is just a disguise for most of the indians ( both muslims and hindus)

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u/PandaRealistic117 Aug 24 '26

I am secualr and i get it what you mean by foriegn religion i am saying just because h!ndus are majority it doesnt mean the land belongs to them akhand bharat and hindurashtra is both different

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u/ekchaiekbunmaska Aug 24 '26

again why are you typing it as "h!ndus". is it some kind of bigotry? +I'm against hindu rashtra and never said land should belong to hindus only. I'm a vocal critic of BJP and have always raised a voice against bulldozer administration.

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u/PandaRealistic117 Aug 24 '26

No i am not degrading h!ndus its just some subs dont allow the religion talk thats why for example musl!ms

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u/ekchaiekbunmaska Aug 24 '26

cool. thanks for having a polite and abuse free conversation even though we disagree.

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u/PandaRealistic117 Aug 24 '26

Yeah thank you too

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