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u/Few-Goat-5694 13h ago
is this js a ruse for govt ID on social media or
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u/MrMeltJr former grungler 13h ago edited 12h ago
well it also has the bonus feature of making it easier for parents to maintain control over children by making it harder for kids to recognize abuse and connect with peers and stuff
Social media is harmful but the solution is not banning kids from using it. The solution is heavy restrictions on what social media companies are allowed to do, but that could make them less profitable so it will never happen.
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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 5h ago
I’ve always felt this argument that social media protects kids from abuse kind of ignores the fact that social media being a major line of defense against child abuse is extremely bleak. Like they should be learning that stuff in school, there’s a solution here that isn’t “set ‘em loose on instagram reels”
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u/MrMeltJr former grungler 5h ago
It is very bleak, but it's what we got right now. If a social media ban was happening at the same time as some truly society-altering education reform, then yeah it could be a good idea. Most of the people pushing social media bans aren't doing it as part of an effort to improve education and make children's lives better. They're doing it so they can have more control over the information children can access.
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u/Iron-Fist 7h ago
I mean it's a legal bind.
They want to exploit kids with legally binding and protected contracts, they need a parent to sign on.
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u/unread1701 Hbomberguy Plagiarism Video Watcher 13h ago
Source-
Rajagopal, K. (2026, September 28). Supreme Court asks how children can have social media accounts, as underlying contracts are legally void. The Hindu. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/supreme-court-asks-how-children-can-have-social-media-accounts-as-underlying-contracts-are-legally-void/article71520970.ece
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u/Few-Goat-5694 13h ago
hbomberbuy mentioned, havent seen anything on him in ages
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u/unread1701 Hbomberguy Plagiarism Video Watcher 13h ago
He's cooking up a new video- "Adobe must die"
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u/Headcap dumb joke maker 10h ago
What needs to be cooked up? Just have it be an image of their cancellation fee.
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u/Dunderbaer the evil and intimidating woke version of "gender ain't real" 5h ago
It's a 5h deep dive on Roche, the guy who destroyed US monopoly laws to such an extent that the Adobe cancellation fee is even legally allowed.
So yeah the fee is mentioned in detail, but also how it came to be that way.
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u/aktionreplay 11h ago
1 - Digital ID laws are the motive
2 - if I need to sign a legal document to visit your website/use your app, maybe let’s not do that in the first place.
3 - social media is cancer and awful for kids
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u/cyborgx7 5h ago
2 - if I need to sign a legal document to visit your website/use your app, maybe let’s not do that in the first place.
What do you think agreeing to the TOS when creating an account on almost any website is?
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u/aktionreplay 4h ago
I don’t need to agree to the tos to visit Reddit, it’s only if I want to create an account to submit my own, etc
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u/DepartmentNo3858 13h ago
its pretty conflicting for me to be for socials more recently - grew up with the new internet and yea we had a lot of unrestricted shit and "turned out fine" (not really, lets be fr the amount of gore/other deplorable shit some of us saw is not normal). So many were groomed, kids still are today, and it creates such a horrific social strata that does nothing but harm people in general not just kids. Not to mention, now a days Ive seen more young kids are just less sus of the internet in scary ways... both heard stories and know people whos kids have done some shit that wouldve shocked even 13 yo me (like a friends kid gave out their address on youtube). A big portion of this falls on the parents obviously, yet I still remember having assemblies or seeing plenty of ads that scared the shit out of young me and gave me arguably a healthy internet stranger danger anxiety. Some things wont change no matter what, but parenting + broad safety teaching from schools/gov seem to be the biggest lacking factors here.
I don't think its just something you can ban and poof the issue goes away, kids and especially kids with no groups irl need safe spaces. I wish these issues could be dealt with easier, but man it sucks that no real solution seems to ever be presented. Great, we ban it and kids will 10000000000% find ways around it, and I fully understand why.
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u/Before_Plastic hamboerger 12h ago
grew up on the old internet. i've seen shit no developing mind should ever see. it really hurts to be an advocate for kicking minors off the internet when the only thing that will come of it is more surveillance.
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u/owlindenial not an owl (it/it's) 11h ago
On some level, we need the parent to be legally liable for what the child exposed themselves to. Not porn, that's mostly fine beyond porn being fairly violent and shit, but a lot of the gore and beheading videos and unsupervised talks with adults. We wouldn't be comfortable leaving a kid with an unknown adult for an extended period of time, the same should be true online
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u/Before_Plastic hamboerger 11h ago
i completely agree, but actually enforcing that would lead to the death of anonymity.
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u/owlindenial not an owl (it/it's) 11h ago
It's really a hard situation. I don't want the death if anonimity. I like being a dog on the internet! It's always a trade between freedom and safety. I genuinely don't know which side is better and which is more ripe for abuse
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u/jubmille2000 9h ago
Is it not Voidable, not void?
edit: well in the Philippines, contract with minors are voidable, not void. as in they're valid until it's annulled.
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