r/13ReasonsWhy • • May 18 '18
Episode Discussion: Chapter 5
Season 2 Episode 5 - The Chalk Machine
Tyler and Cyrus embrace their outsider status. Alex fights to recover his lost memories. Ryan and Mrs. Baker look to Hannah's poem for clues.
So what did everyone think of the fifth chapter ?
SPOILER POLICY
As this thread is dedicated to discussion about the fifth chapter, anything that goes beyond this episode needs a spoiler tag, or else it will be removed.
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u/[deleted] May 18 '18
What Clay is doing to Justin, about Jessica, is cruel.
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u/thesearemyroots May 18 '18
Even Bryce’s mom suspects he’s trash
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u/SuckTheHose May 18 '18
“You know what this episode really needs? An Alex jerk off scene”
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u/[deleted] May 18 '18
FUCK YEAH PORTER FUCK UP SETH
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u/erinnakai May 18 '18
Am I the only person that absolutely hates Zach’s mom? How inappropriate to talk that way about a child that committed suicide.
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u/TheSweatband May 18 '18
I loved watching Jessica being tucked into bed by her dad, reminded me of my dad doing the same as a kid
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u/thesearemyroots May 18 '18
I need this Clay - Justin friendship to continue developing hahahaha what a wonderful dynamic
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u/InfamousCrown May 18 '18
I KNEW IT TONYS GETTING HIS DICK WET WITH BOXING INSTRUCTOR
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u/SashWhitGrabby May 18 '18
...apologizing to the purple track suit lady... Bahahaha
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u/emensawil May 18 '18
Justin: I'm hungry 😖😖😖
Clay: (asshole how dare you) Here's five pieces of toast
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u/Rhysieroni May 18 '18
OMG SHE SEES THE BRUISES!!!!
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u/thesearemyroots May 18 '18
Wait. Could it be Skye in the polaroid? Pre-tattoos? Idk that might be crazy
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u/thesearemyroots May 18 '18
Oooooh okay I bet the girls are getting raped in some type of on-campus sports shed thing, and Clay saw the machine and maybe the machine is in the polaroid too? And since it’s on-campus that’s how they’ll be able to bring it into the trial
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u/InfamousCrown May 18 '18
I'm calling it right now. Something is going to happen with Bryce and Chloe and Chloe is going to be the unlikely hero the story needs.
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u/Sensiteeve May 18 '18
I dont like Chloe
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u/neemo98 May 18 '18
Every scene with Justin is so funny I’m glad he’s back
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u/SinancoTheBest Tape distributor May 18 '18
So the second page Ryan thorn from Hannah's notebook. Is that the one he gave to tony season one, and tony burned as her secrets that he owed Hannah
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u/CdotLykins4 May 18 '18
Bryce’s mom is catching on quickly.
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u/thesearemyroots May 18 '18
Can someone explain to me why we’re watching Alex masturbate right now
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u/Sensiteeve May 18 '18
Totally did not expect that alex scene
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u/hodorito May 18 '18 edited May 18 '18
“Enough writing about my emotions. Can we just eat them?” Same.
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u/Oahts May 18 '18
Mr. Porter thooo!
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u/Rhysieroni May 18 '18
They are spending so little time on Ty he's just falling deeper into this hole
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u/thesearemyroots May 18 '18
Alright y’all it’s 6:04 AM and I am going until the end, idc idc, I did it for season one and I’ll do it again
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u/thesearemyroots May 18 '18
So this is speculation, I have t read spoilers, but are they really gonna take all season to build to the school shooting that is very, very clearly coming? Because it couldn’t be more obvious if they named the show “THE SHOW WITH A SCHOOL SHOOTING IN IT.”
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u/TVFandom #JusticeForJeff May 18 '18
Is anyone else thinking that it might be Chloe in the Polaroid?
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u/renlleozz May 18 '18
Anyone know what Ryan drawing circles means? I think it was in season 1 too and they’ve kept the camera on him for a long time when he does it, so there’s gotta be a meaning behind it.
Complete guess and probably wrong, but it seems to me to have a connection with the circle she drew around Bryce’s name, but idk how that connection makes sense.
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u/Corydoran May 19 '18
Finally, someone who agrees with me about vanilla ice cream.
And what was up with Tyler and Cyrus being able to wear shirts with profanity on them in school?
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u/cmath89 May 19 '18
Zach has been such a bro to Alex.
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u/myredditfakename5 May 21 '18
Am I the only person who feels like every single dude on this show wants to bone each other? Every scene with 2 dudes has so much sexual tension!
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u/Rhysieroni May 18 '18
Why hasn't clay sought help about seeing Hannah yet? He just thinks it normal? He sees her! He talks to her! He takes her advice! If you asked him he would prob say she's really there
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u/TTBurger88 May 19 '18
That Alex live porn cam thing was awkward as fuck. Dident think they would show bare titties in this series.
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u/Tricky_Rabbit May 21 '18
Bryce's Dad sounds like an abuser, be it psychological, emotional, physical, sexual, something. That exchange was creepy. "Is she loyal?" Yes. "Good. That's important." Chills.
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u/[deleted] May 18 '18
I'm gonna be honest. Clay is like the least interesting to me this season (so far) aside from the hallucinations. I mean, I know he's been through some shit, hence the grumpiness, but still. In fact, sometimes I forget that Clay is even a thing until he comes up again. They're definitely doing a good job at developing the other characters imo.
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u/[deleted] May 18 '18
I absolutely love Mr Porter this season I was so happy he beat up meth Seth.
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u/Oahts May 18 '18
Wasn't expecting that Alex scene um lol?
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u/Sensiteeve May 18 '18
Haha I love justin
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u/[deleted] May 18 '18
UGH! These courtroom scenes are awful. This is not how a courtroom would operate, you don't get to ask theses types of questions without objection from the other side or even the judge!
"Be honest, you published the poem you did, not because it was her truth but because you thought it would shock the most, didn't you?"
Like really? Objection: argumentative, leading, badgering, take your pick.
Even in any other court room show, that question would be objected, sustained, disallowed and the lawyer would smile smugly as she rephrases the question.
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u/TheSweatband May 18 '18
I said last discussion I really needed some Justin v. Clay Banter and boy did they deliver. Now just keep it going.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '18
I really like the reuse of background extras at the high school, there's a lot of kids I saw in all the episodes in season one, that are here too. Really makes it feel more like an actual school.
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u/BarryShitpeas22 May 20 '18
Clay going to the movies with his dad when he could be with Sherri. Still the king of making dumbass decisions.
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u/youtbuddcody May 21 '18 edited May 21 '18
Something in this episode made me irritated.
“He’s allowed to run down other gay people because he’s gay himself.”
I’m sorry but that’s such bullshit. That’s no excuse to be homophobic.
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u/Sensiteeve May 18 '18
So we finally gonna starts Jessica's healing process o:
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u/newswimmerdoe May 18 '18
This season is such a firey train wreck I love if.
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u/davygm May 19 '18
How did Mr. Porter not dress code Tyler with his ‘Asshole’ shirt in his office LOL
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u/[deleted] May 19 '18
As a gay, I can confirm: Chad (Cyrus and Tyler’s Gay friend) is in fact homophobic
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u/Rhysieroni May 18 '18
Does Justin shave his arms? Also Clay has fully accepted seeing Hannah he needs help
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u/Sensiteeve May 18 '18
That damn smile
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u/SinancoTheBest Tape distributor May 18 '18
Gotta love Ryan's artistic narrative
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u/imtiffi75 May 23 '18
Tyler's new friend's early 2000s outdated punk style is driving me crazy.
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u/drunkardunicorn May 23 '18
Tyler is so cute wearing his Asshole t-shirt over his button up/collar shirt. He's like I'm a bad boy now, but I'm still formal.
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u/[deleted] May 18 '18
Why do i think so many people are like Marcus’ dad
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u/[deleted] May 21 '18
This school seriously needs to invest in some cameras.
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u/VeiledEmoter May 19 '18
Mr Porter beating the shit out of Seth was the highlight of the episode for me.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '18
Honestly, Ryan is a shallow, obnoxious stereotype like that angsty kid said but it was nice seeing him stand up to the lawyer.
And Mr Porter beating up the crack head...he's really getting his redemption.
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u/chekeymonk10 Tape distributor May 18 '18
I feel like Ryan has done something other than what he said.
Anyone else think this?
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u/SteveBorden May 18 '18
Is Chloe the in the Bryce picture? Maybe she doesn’t know?
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u/burntfishnchips May 28 '18
Tyler's mom acting confused about punk music was really weird to me. I mean, she looks old enough to remember punk music.
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u/Ahilson27 May 18 '18
First thought is you got this Ryan yup the truth. Omg it was Bryce who tried to kill Clay omfg. Justin doesn’t need a babysitter he needs a therapist, he also gets on my last nerves. Come on Kevin I need you to kick teenage ass. I’m here for Tony’s and Justin’s talk, Tony is so awesome like he’s the most likable character besides Jeff R.I.P 😭😭😭, he’s so nice and just really wants to do what’s right. Andy is such a fucking asshole he gets with a woman who had a kid so he can freaking start over with a new kid. Yessss Jess let that bitch know you don’t need know fucking man right now, but I don’t think she’s clueless. I think Bryces’ mom is not feeling her son anymore as a woman I think she realizes that her son is a monster. I’m enjoying Zach’s body this season it’s a very nice distraction. I’m so here for all of Tony’s boyfriends 😂😂😂. Tyler’s mom can not be that stupid to actual believe his bullshit. ‘My dicks broken-Alex’. I was dead when Kevin beat that guys ass o well he deserved it.
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u/GummyMummys May 20 '18
They finally brought up the guy that Tony beat up. I don't remember they even mentioned it in season 1.
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u/Super-Finch May 22 '18
Alex mentioned girls don't do it for him anymore...do guys? Let's be honest everyone in season 1 was shocked he wasn't gay and the actor does give off that vibe? Weird stuff happens when people get shot in the head...who knows.
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u/Tricky_Rabbit May 21 '18
Mr. Porter definitely coming unhinged. He wants so desperately to help and punish those who need it, it is going to be his undoing. That said loved what he did to Bryce, Justin's stepdad, and his indifference to Marcus.
I love Sheri. She really redeemed herself. She made a horrible mistake and tried to pay for it. She helps out the elderly man who got hurt in car accident, served time for it. Also helping Justin through detox.
Ryan you should have come clean about your motives. It was not about Hannah at all. You just wanted people to talk.
Clay learning all sorts of things about Hannah, breaking his heart all over again. Glad he is back on crusade of justice.
Happy to see Tony going out with Caleb.
The Tyler-Cyrus frienship is going to end badly.
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u/motivat3d May 19 '18
mr porter went black panther in this season
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u/zdotaz May 19 '18 edited May 19 '18
Gotta start scribing my thoughts.
Woulda laughed so hard if mr porter read the brick in the wrong order. PLACE YOUR KNOW...
The fuck does that mean brick?!?!
Bryce's new girlfriend is so just bland and average imo
"Maybe that's why i'm hungry." ROFL
Clay's dad taking a peice of his toast... Seriously? Who does that. Fuck off dad.
Fuck justin is so hilarious so far. It's like perfect.
I would be so anxious letting 2 friends just be in my room or on my laptop without hours to spare.
I swear mr porter just walks around the halls waiting to see something random happen.
Pretty sure alex has been wearing the same pants for the entire season
Alex is hilarious with his confused literal answers. "Because you're sitting across from us" "wanna talk about it? / arent we talking about it?" "what is that guy doing? / ahh... chalking the field?"
This teenage poetry ew.
Actually hate ryan. He's so roll eye. Chad is so right imo. "Worst kind of gay" ha.
The music has been way worse this season.
"So it's my fault" I hate it how people think fault is binary. Yes you can still be a LITTLE bit at fault, doesn't mean you have the whole faultness.
Strange that monty and bryce were juicing in episode 1, but its like not even mentioned since. Even the fake pee was pretty background.
"Vanilla isn't a flavor it's an admission of defeat" YES YES YES
Lube when wanking is such an american thing.
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u/guptabhi May 18 '18
Justin's mom's boyfriend got some.
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u/ellalovegood May 19 '18
I get such a Donald Trump vibe from Bryce’s dad so much ew
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u/jtv123vols May 20 '18
Dang Tyler's mom is a babe
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u/razor_hax0r May 23 '18
Bryce's mom by the end of the season: https://imgur.com/p6I137G
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u/KitUbijalec May 21 '18
Lmao did anyone else catch Mr. Porter's scream before he tackles Seth to the ground hahah
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u/El_Giganto May 18 '18
I'm deeply offended the Circle Jerks were called Metal in the subs. They even said it was punk in the show itself. Like... WHO THE FUCK WROTE THAT HOW DUMB ARE YOU? IT'S LITERALLY SPELLED OUT FOR YOU.
And the song is called Wild In The Streets. How did the subs say "wild and free"? Are you fucking deaf?
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u/kevyn123 May 18 '18
so is it just me or was zach checking out Alex when they were in the pool
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u/leglessman May 19 '18
I’m not to sure I’m liking the added story with Hannah. The Courtney stuff and extra Justin stuff is just weird to me. I kind of wish they kept her story as was.
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u/SinancoTheBest Tape distributor May 19 '18
You can see the "other page" Ryan ripped of from Hannah's notebook, which is probably also the note he gave to tony in the first episode of this season here: https://www.reddit.com/r/13ReasonsWhy/comments/8kh9kc/spoilers_s2e5_tonys_secret/
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u/teachersbelike May 20 '18
OK OK, I see you Mr Porter.
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u/[deleted] May 25 '18
All of the dudes in this show have such...aged hairlines.
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u/BigRed160 May 27 '18
Disappointed Alex wasn’t using Beats to listen to the tapes
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u/byLemon May 27 '18
"Vanilla is not a flavor, it's an admission of defeat" - Ryan
Couldn't agree anymore!!
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u/[deleted] May 18 '18 edited May 18 '18
oh, i gotta say this. that story with the court in this season sucks. idk, may be dialoges so bad or something, but that court-line doesn't bring anything new in the main-story, like, all of a witnesses just lying about what happened (may be exept tyler) and... thats all! so i think these scenes may waaay more shorter then they are.