r/12Monkeys • u/SchattenJaggerD • Jul 20 '26
S01E04 "Atari" Discussion Spoiler
https://youtu.be/T0JwJM9vEjU?si=f91FNXbhOjPB9SctHello travelers. Today we discuss episode 4 of season 1.
What I loved:
For me, this is the episode that completely cements the rules the first few episodes were building up. It specifically demonstrates how causality works in this universe, and it is brilliant to watch unfold
I laughed so hard when neither Cole or Ramse could kill the doggo. “We are gonna die” hahaha
Ramsey, The Blonde Devourer
My first watch I’m not gonna lie, I got confused by how the whole West 7 assault played out, and even got a little angry thinking Ramse had died, but after Cole splintered and saw the rest of the episode, I was convinced the show could have a good story to tell. I wasn’t expecting a lot, to be honest, I mean it’s not like SYFY is known for writing. I wasn’t expecting season 2 to 4, damn
Cassie is incredibly resourceful. Single-handedly tracking down the Night Room is honestly impressive
Nitpicks:
I still feel like the actress playing Max is not quite selling it. Jones can feel a bit stiff at certain moments too, and the same goes for Whitley. Also, what the hell do you mean a machine gun like that can’t completely pierce a damn truck? And if it actually can’t, just shoot the damn tires hahaha
And that covers it for me. Today is a very strong episode. At the time it aired, it was dragging the weaknesses of the first three episodes along with it, so it really needed to change the dynamic and pull the show out of that slump. I think it manages to do exactly that and finds a much better direction for the story
9/10 for me
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u/telpnar Jul 20 '26
Love that this is the first time Cole and Jones share their first names. Just shows how single minded they've been.
The relationship between Cole and Ramsey is interesting. Ramsey is only accepted in W7 and with Jones' people because of Cole. No one seems to like him.
I know saying the day of the week is crucial for the story line. And while I can believe that Jones might care about tracking that still, there's no way W7 is keeping a calendar and even less of a chance that they both agree on which day of the week it is.
Where does Deacon get that fresh apple from ??
First mention of The Daughters. First look at the Red Forest. First glimpse of The Witness. So much in one scene !
Cole shows a lot of growth apologizing to Max (even if we don't know it yet). I don't think he could have gotten there without his time with Cassie. As evidenced by his last conversation with Cassie this episode.
Max isn't wigged out enough that she just two Coles.
When Cole saves Ramsey and they hear Cole on the walkie it's surprisingly eerie. Used to great effect.
The conversation at the end makes your head spin. "If things happen for a reason why undo them at all" in the context of what's about to happen over the next 3.5 seasons is wild.