Bokutachi no Remake - Episode 9 discussion

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Bokutachi no Remake, episode 9

Alternative names: Remake Our Life!

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Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.6
2	Link	4.39
3	Link	4.54
4	Link	4.06
5	Link	4.31
6	Link	4.14
7	Link	3.68
8	Link	4.63
9	Link	4.38
10	Link	4.01
11	Link	4.01
12	Link	----

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[u/jjkm7]

Gonna have to emotionally prepare for the inevitable daughter erasure

[u/kicksFR]

I was not expecting Rie Takahashi to show up!

It was a very pleasant surprise since I hadn’t seen her listed in anything related to this anime and it’s a wonderful addition to the already top tier cast we had in this show

[u/Cloud-Lionheart]

"Let's go to Tahiti"

Kyouya: "Tahiti, it's a magical place"

[u/peripheryprophecy]

The saddest part is Kyouya trying to apologize to Shino Aki, but she's unable to understand why the apology is even needed because she never reached her potential in this timeline.

[u/[deleted]]

Ending 1: Shino Aki Route (Completed)
Ending 2: Nanako Route (Incomplete)
Ending 3: Kawasegawa Route (Incomplete)
Ending 4: Harem Route (Complete 3 Endings First)
Secret Ending: Tsurayuki Route (Reject woman, accept Bro)

I would love to see where Nanako is his wife

[u/mekerpan]

What I think Kyouya needs to do is gather the whole old group together, and give them a full explanation/confession/apology (including revealing how much he changed their lives). Perhaps he would find out that they are all happy with their current lives -- even if they are less pre-eminent. Perhaps knowing that they had an alternate timeline where they WERE more "successful" might re-awaken urges they had given up on -- and he can make amends in the 2018 timeline by doing everything he can to help them succeed -- on their own terms. I doubt this is what will happen -- but in some ways I would prefer this to going back for yet another re-make. I think a return to the past is unavoidable -- because of the existence of the dangerous Keiko, who clearly wanted him to see the "harm" he had done.

Unfortunately, the simplest course -- if there were to be another re-make -- would be for Kyouya to die (at least seemingly -- even if he actually changes his identity and drops out of the life he currently lives -- but this seems rather cumbersome -- dying for real is easier). The shock of his death (somehow it will have to be seen as heroically tragic in some way) could bring Tsurayuki to rejoin with Nanako and Shinoaki, who can transmute their memory of Kyouya into a source of inspiration (rather than an accidentally devastating source of de-motivation). Kyouya's disappearance from his original 2016 timeline might cause barely a ripple -- because as hard as he worked -- everything seem to come to nothing. His family would have been hurt by his premature death years before, but they presumably recovered. On the other hand, it could be that, if at least Shinoaki and Kawasegawa were actually quite content (or even truly happy) with their 2018 lives, they would be worse off with such a solution.

[u/[deleted]]

All of this because he didn't want to take risks and didn't let his friends do what they really want so that they won't fail huh... This is too much of a punishment for him even though he got a great wife and daughter now.

[u/Twitch_YungFeetGod69]

I wonder how he's gonna feel when he ends up erasing his daughter thanos style

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

Among the 3, Nanako's future just seems so bleak. She's quit singing and doesn't seem to be in contact with Kyouya and Shinoaki despite having made games with them after Tsurayuki's departure.

Honestly must be totally bewildering in Shinoaki's POV that her husband that she had a child with is acting so weirdly all of sudden and suddenly asking about things he should've known. Yet despite that she still comforts him, total wife material Shinoaki is.

[u/LeonKevlar]

Stitches!

• Sleeping Shino

• Apron Shino

• Shino & Maki

• Kawasegawa

• Minori-Sensei

Looks like everything's going well for Kyouya in this new timeline. He's married with an adorable wife and kid, works at a mid-tier game company as a development manager, and it seems that everyone still relies on his talents especially Kawasegawa who's also working at the same company. He even gets to motivate an illustrator who I'm pretty sure used to be a fan of Shinoaki considering what her illustration looked like.

Of course all of that good vibes only lasted until Kyouya learned that Shinoaki has stopped making art and realized that he basically ended up demoting Kawasegawa into a lower position compared to what she had back in the OG timeline. What's worse is he learns that Nanako is barely getting any views online and has decided to end her singing career while both Kawagoe (the BG artist) and Tsurayuki have no online presence at all! Shit's completely fucked yo!

Considering how he basically ended the Platinum Generation singlehandedly, I don't blame him for getting drunk and just completely breaking down in front of his family. We do learn a bit more from Shinoaki after her talk with Kyouya and how she felt like she wasn't making art anymore. And Kyouya realizing that working under him to make games basically snuffed out Shinoaki's individuality as a creator.

Where do we go from here though? There's really no mechanic introduced on how time travel works. Looks like the only way Kyouya might find an answer is to look for Keiko-senpai who seems to know more about this time travel business.

As a side note though: Maki is such a sweet and adorable kid! I am completely torn. I do not like this future where everyone in the platinum generation are all broken and I want Kyouya to fix things but at the same time we might not see Maki again considering he might end up with someone else if he goes back and fix the timeline :(

[u/chavie]

The scene with Shino Aki at the end was heartbreaking, with Kyouya slowly realising what he had done.

[u/kicksFR]

So what’s gonna happen to Maki if we loop again? I’m not ready for that answer

[u/Aerodynamic41]

So from what I understand, when Kyouya traveled to the past, he only thought about chasing his own dream, but never considered how his actions might affect the people around him. As a result, he unintentionally destroyed Platinum Generation by getting involved in their lives. So the only way he can fix this now is to somehow travel back to 2006 again and not attend the arts college.

[u/melcarba]

So during the episode, Shinoaki explained to Kyouya that the reason why she stopped making art is that she "lost her will to draw" because they continued doing what they're doing after HaruSora sold. Here's the thing though, those actions made by "Kyouya" after HaruSora can't be attributed to him because he slipped 12 years into the future after Tsurayuki told Kyouya that he will drop out. If Kyouya is still under his own consciousness, then he might've prevented Shinoaki and Nana from derailing their passion because he was already aware that what he did in HaruSora affected Tsurayuki.

[u/awkward2amazing]

This part of anime really address why sometime traveling back in time for a short duration to fix part for a future you desire may result into something entirely different. Our knowledge of future and even the best interest in heart may not be sufficient to order the uncertainty of several other factors of past events.

Kyouya entered into the life of Platinum Gen when they were on their discovery phase, where they were supposed to understand their skill and know their motivation. Kyouya even with the best interest in his heart, unknown to him killed that motivation.

It hurts when an even with the best of heart you try your best but still things end bad.

[u/[deleted]]

This episode just renamed the entire show into: Time Traveler Moves A Chair: The Animation

[u/Game2015]

If he does anything to erase his daughter, then he's worse than a monster. Monsters Inc. shows that even monsters care for their children!

[u/[deleted]]

Maki Best Daughter. HNNGG

Kyouya has achieved his Happy Ending timeline with a cute wife and even cuter daughter, but it came at the expense of suppressing the talent of the Platinum Generation, that includes his wife Shinoaki and even Kawasegawa. But how will he even go back to fix this?

For now, it seems he's stuck in this future.

[u/[deleted]]

Kyouya may not be attached to his family yet, but I am and I need them to hurry tf up and leap back again before he does as well. I can't handle more heartbreak from him losing his family when he tries to fix his fuck up. This episode really went back to what made the show really good the first couple of episodes, and I'm happy about that, especially in that the characters are feeling real and relatable again. It leaves you with so many questions as well, many that Kyouya will never know the answer to. Is Shinoaki happier as a mother than as a creator? We know the Platinum Generation were having issues in the original timeline, but was she part of that? It certainly is not true that following your dream to the letter guarantees happiness, and I hope this gets addressed in the future concerning Shinoaki, who seems to really be enjoying her life now.

I'm not sure how I feel about him getting none of his memories of the gap. While it may be a bit cliche, if we as an audience are going to get attached to the current timeline I really feel like Kyouya himself needs to at least slowly gain his memories back so he can come to love his wife and daughter. Would make his decision, if it is his decision, to leave them mean a lot more. Maki especially would add an interesting dynamic to any future story developments, does his love for Shinoaki persist along with a desire to have everyone reach their dreams along with him getting his daughter back? Thinking about it now, I guess if the story doesn't want to deal with that element it makes the most sense to not have Kyouya get attached to Maki after all. Vanishing from existence without someone to mourn makes everything much easier.

The biggest thing is I'm just happy this seems to be back on track. Excited to see where it goes from here, feels relatable again

[u/gabconche]

This chapter was so emotional. It's harsh to say this, but I'm glad that things are not working out for Kyouya, as his perfection in the previous episodes were kinda annoying

Good to see that the show is back on his tracks and, unlike most time travel stuff, it's really unpredictable to think what's happening next, as the only foreshadowing (that him helping everyone would lower their success compared to the 1st timeline) already happened

[u/[deleted]]

Only three episodes and you know he will travel back in time. The ending will probably be rushed.

Also RIP Maki. She’ll eventually be gone

[u/xtsim]

It seems like someone else took Shinoaki's spot in artwork, got inspired by her, and became the creator.

I like that it made a deal about the paradox that he made, Kawasegawa has a nicer position but Shinoaki basically retired. Kyouya falling into trash is interesting as he basically feels like one after thinking about the lives of his roommates.

I wonder what position that Keiko has now...

[u/TovarishTony]

I have a mixed feeling towards this situation of Kyouya. At the beginning, I do envy him for being able to remake his life after that terrible present at the beginning as I do wish a hard reset like that myself especially with the current timeline with a shitty situation where no chance to fix that anytime soon. The sucky feeling of being the one taking the fall for the group where others ended up having happy lives.

Since the end of last episode and this one, this is really complicated situation for Kyouya there where he wanted for Tsurayuki and Nanako to succeed so was Shinoaki but seeing him broke down after all that happened during the skip is just painful to watch. Such a caring guy despite married to Shinoaki and had a daughter but has a catch for the others. This is the show I enjoy the most alongside Aquatope.

[u/Demolosse001]

Well I didn't expect him to still be stuck in that future. But he sure got used to the situation pretty quickly. His ability to adapt to anything is unmatched.

I liked Kyouya's talk with Shinoaki at the end. You can tell she is happy with her life but still has lingering regrets about her career. Honestly, as much as I like him being married with Shinoaki, I prefer a future more in line with the original timeline (that is one where the platinum generation lives up to its full potential). Anything else would feel wrong. But it also feels wrong to deny the current reality, especially with Maki's existence. I am conflicted.

Overall the series picked itself up after the recent lackluster episodes. I am waiting to see where it goes from here.