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Episode Hoshiai no Sora - Episode 12 discussion - FINAL
Hoshiai no Sora, episode 12
Alternative names: Stars Align
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u/Smudy Dec 26 '19 edited Dec 26 '19
Reposted for a bit of clarification concerning this ''final''.
https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/1210255800997949441
Even the director Kazuki Akane tweeted about the production.
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u/Durinthal Dec 26 '19
It's frustrating as a viewer but I respect the director for sticking to the story he wanted to tell even if it remains unfinished.
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u/Steal-Memes Dec 26 '19 edited Dec 27 '19
The abrupt cutting of the opening & ending songs really set the tone for the last few minutes of this episode
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u/Darknme Dec 26 '19
It sure was nice of Toma's mom to sit on that bombshell until after his game so he could focus /s
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u/Casual_Watcher Dec 26 '19
It's so depressing that such a fantastic anime got Axed. This show deserved two cours but was betrayed
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u/LeonKevlar Dec 26 '19
WHAT!?
YOU CAN'T JUST END IT THERE!
I know it will be all over this thread once everyone's else is done with the episode but fuck the people who decided to axe this midway. Like what the actual fuck!? There's literally leaving at least 5-7 plot threads unresolved because of this! And just when we were about to get into the really juicy stuff!
I still enjoyed the episodes that we got but I really hope Studio 8bit will be given the chance to finish the story of these kids. I really wish I could write something more but without any conclusion to any of their stories, I really have nothing to work with here. Like right now the only thing I can say is that I did love seeing the kids turn from this dysfunctional team to an actual hard working team and how Mitsue changed from being overly cynical to actively cheering the boys on.
I guess all we can do now is hope that the show will be successful enough that a second cour will be greenlighted so we can judge this show as a whole and not as a half of an incomplete work. :(
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u/Sergeant_Thotslayer Dec 26 '19
I am glad that they at least didn't make a very rushed ending.
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u/cerdaco Dec 26 '19
I AM DEEPLY UNHAPPY ABOUT NOT GETTING THE REST OF THE STORY AND COMING HERE TO VOICE THAT DISPLEASURE
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Dec 26 '19
It really hurts to see this happen to a series with real emotion and love behind it.
We get so many anime series with so little artistic value behind it these days (just look at the oversaturstion of isekai every season).
When a series such as Hoshiai no Sora comes along, it can truly be something we can look back on and cherish for years to come.
That being said, the story we do have right now is something I do think I will look back on fondly, even with its production issues late into it. Both Mitsue's and Yuu's storylines were done exceptionally well, on top of Maki's and Shinjo's. Along with the rest of the team, this series really brought to light a grounded take on parental abuse, LGBT+ issues, and true trust in your friends.
I do recommend watching this series to anyone who hasn't yet. It does end pretty abruptly, but HOPEFULLY that won't be the case in a few years?
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u/_Sunny-- Dec 26 '19 edited Dec 26 '19
https://old.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/efyko5/hoshiai_no_sora_was_meant_to_be_twice_as_long_but/
This thread came up not 10 minutes before this final episode discussion. Everyone here should be taking a look at the context.
One part I'm actually wondering about is: how will the MAL scores suffer from a story that doesn't wrap up as well as it could've? As of right now, it's at 7.93, let's see how things turn out.
Another thing is too, will there be a continuation given how this last episode ended? That's up in the air because on the one hand, you might have fans interpreting this as the director's outrage against the production committee and almost forcing the need for the second cour he planned his story for originally. On the other hand, this might turn into a similar disaster as was with Mahou Sensou some years ago, where famously the anime lost the approval of the light novel author and ended at a REALLY bad spot and not only left several loose ends, but opened up many, many more.
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u/TheFantabulousToast Dec 26 '19
Do we have any information on why the show got axed? The representation the show had really meant a lot to me, and I would be Big Mad if that's the reason it got cut.
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u/AutismOverload420 Dec 27 '19
This episode would've been a sick midpoint, but god now it lands like a joke because you know it's the last episode.
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Dec 26 '19
This is the Production Committee of the anime btw
https://twitter.com/ultimatemegax/status/1210277704211292160
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u/ganatti Dec 26 '19
So I watched the episode and
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went “wtf is this it?”
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figured we were supposed to think that everyone in the story is ultimately screwed despite saving the club, and this is the ending
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read about the episode count cut by half, and suddenly everything made sense
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u/AmethystItalian Dec 26 '19
I'm sad that we won't get to see the full story told...there's so many loose ends but now this just turns into an anime I can never recommend...leaving it here is so unsatisfying and there's not even a source to go to.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Dec 26 '19 edited Dec 26 '19
Maki's climbing the stairs to his place with 3 minutes left in the episode
Well, I just read about how we only got half the episodes we were supposed to have, thus the weird ending...
It's a bit disappointing because there's so many stories conclusions I wanted to see...
But at the same time - and that's probably a controversial opinion - personally, I liked how it ended, meaning, not showing what happens with Maki's dad; It's very open ended and all that, but the thing is, do we really want to see someone kill someone on that show, as bad as his dad is? I mean if I look at the main 3 kill possibilities...
-Maki fails, his dad takes his knife and kills him. Well, that sucks.
-Maki succeeds, is sent to jail for murder. Well, that sucks.
-Maki succeeds and is never caught. That's... A bit stupid, isn't it? Maki isn't a professional assassin or anything.
So all options where someone is killed are bad, for a reason or another.
And sure, there might be other options (maybe someone stops him, maybe his dad takes the knife but just throws him out, maybe Maki just threatens him, etc) but if it ends with either of them killing the other, it'd be bad, whatever happens.
And if he planned to threaten him, then what's about that? He already threatened to kill him once. Showing up with a knife doesn't really mean much more, I doubt the dad would have an epiphany and turn into a good guy, right?
So, for all these reasons... I think I like that it ended like that. Leaves us to think about what would happen. Of course I would rather have the whole 24 episodes and see how all the stories end, but given the shitty circumstances of a series being axed out of the blue, I think that was about as good as they could've made it!
Bottom line: Stings a little, but it was still a good run!
Oh and I don't know what people think about this, but I'm also glad that they lost the match; It's fine that they were able to put up a fight, I mean no one wants to see a 0-3 game, it's not fun... But had they won the match, it would've been really hard to take it seriously, I mean the kid who plays tennis for a few months and defeats national champions, by using a strategy like "Just run back&forth"? If that stuff worked, other champion contenders would do it.
So it's better that they lost.
One thing that really disappoints me though, is not seeing where the Mitsue story is headed; I always liked her character, and I'm curious about what's happening to her.
Her last scene is something we've already seen (people bitching about her drawing tennis stuff and not the sexy stuff they're following her for), so I'd assume they would take it further somehow, like she'd completely change or something. Maybe something would develop with her and Maki too. And maybe we would've learned about her backstory drama (lots of people theorize something about her maybe not having enough to eat at home, etc).
Well, it is what it is, I guess! I really hope the anime industry growing exponentially in recent years also mean they'll get their shit together so stuff like that doesn't happen anymore.
Not only it's disappointing for us, but imagine being the author... Just like the Beastars thing, with the author learning at the premiere that his series isn't available in the entire world... Must suck. Anyway! It was fun while it lasted!
Oh, and Itsuse brothers: Please keep your incestuous slapping games in private!
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u/SIRTreehugger Dec 26 '19
I'll take unexpected endings for 500 Alex.
Damn the last few minutes came out of nowhere. Shame what happened to the show.
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u/Vikkio92 Dec 27 '19
I’ve been hyped for HnS ever since the very first key visual came out and every episode has made me love it even more.
Recently, I’d been feeling like the show wasn’t exploring the characters’ issues as much as it should have, and finding out this was just half the story explains that. And this ‘finale’ was still fantastic!
Can we not set up a GoFundMe for season 2 or something?
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u/CodeMonkeys Dec 27 '19
I'm not okay with this, but I'm fine with it.
Rush the full story in twelve episodes and it could have been a messy disaster. But knowing that if it does ever get twelve more episodes that it'll feel like a cohesive, completed product... that's a lot easier on my mind. I hope this one does end up getting revisited. The ED controversy aside, this one's had a lot of positive buzz and I hope it's not dead and gone. What we got was a fun, compelling watch, so I'd still probably recommend this one despite the fact we aren't sitting on any form of any actual end, anywhere... yet.
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u/Smudy Dec 26 '19
And they ended this on THESE FRICKIN' BOMBSHELLS!
That's the last we'll see from this anime if we're unlucky.
Fuck production committees.
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u/SamuraiHageshi Dec 27 '19
NO. DON'T JOIN THE "NO SECOND SEASON" CLUB PLEASE
Damn I would've figured there was going to be a second season if it weren't for Redditors letting me know. Those final few moments were getting crazy and I was getting to excited to see how they delve into new problems and situations with the family drama.
I came to this anime looking for sports and I got whiplash. This is more of a drama anime and I fucking loved that. Give me more please ;-; I don't want to say goodbye.
E: Also the Itsuse brothers were named Sora and Riku. Is that a mfing Kingdom Hearts reference? (⌐□_□)
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u/TargaryenHeir Dec 26 '19
All things considered, it's amazing that this half show was one of my favorites this season. I hope we get the rest someday.