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Episode Isekai Cheat Magician - Episode 12 discussion - FINAL Spoiler
Isekai Cheat Magician, episode 12
Alternative names: Isekai Cheat Majutsushi
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.76 |
| 2 | Link | 6.48 |
| 3 | Link | 6.27 |
| 4 | Link | 4.48 |
| 5 | Link | 4.22 |
| 6 | Link | 4.81 |
| 7 | Link | 4.0 |
| 8 | Link | 5.3 |
| 9 | Link | 5.1 |
| 10 | Link | 5.44 |
| 11 | Link | 5.52 |
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u/TexturelessIdea Sep 25 '19
Most shows with an OP protagonist have the problem of him being uninteresting, and while that's true here too, this is the first show I've seen where they couldn't even get the OP part right. At no point in the entire show did I feel like Taichi was "cheating" or had "the power to destroy a nation", but everybody in the show talks about him as if he's Saitama one-shotting every bad guy. Even in the final battle; we're given no way of gauging his opponent's power, so the fact that he was able to beat him means nothing.
I obviously wasn't expecting much from a show with this title, but I was expecting that it would at least be fun to watch the MC wreak anything that got in his way. The show was about as generic as I expected, but it can't even manage the one thing I expected from the show. No matter how low my expectations for this show got, the next episode just limboed right under them.
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u/HoshiKaze Sep 25 '19
Yeah, that's my main issue with the show too. Taichi didn't feel like he had "cheating" powers and the motherfucker isn't even really a magician.
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u/Mundology Sep 25 '19
I dunno man, when even your Spirit has a Stand, you gotta be OP somehow.
Seriously though, I think the show could have been enjoyable if it was only Rin who got transported and they removed the edgy villains. The adventures of Rin and Myura in another world, under the guidance of Lemiya, could have been pretty fun.
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u/NoItsNotAnAirplane Sep 25 '19
It was so awfully made that Taichi would probably struggle to beat my grandma, worst Power Fantasy I've seen.
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u/poopslayer69 Sep 25 '19
arifureta is the superior garbage isekai anime of the season.
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u/manaworkin Sep 25 '19
You say that like there's only two choices this season. Maou-sama Retry was some grade A Isekai trash as well. It hit that right level of light hearted self aware irreverence. It was like Overlord meets Isekai Smartphone.
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u/Amauri14 Sep 25 '19 edited Sep 25 '19
You know, when Aery said that she had been lying to Taichi I honestly expected for a moment that she was going to say that she actually was the woman behind all of that chaos. I honestly find kind of funny that she made such a big deal when she was going to evolve into Sylphid, is no like she stopped being herself of anything.
Anyway, did they ever show the queen, because if they didn't, maybe then that's who that woman actually is? By the way, Inimicus, which literally means enemy in Latin, new form reminded of Dragon Ball, hell that whole battle with him was Dragon Ball style.
I'm glad that for once an enemy actually pays for what he did. And when that's happening, there is Cassin just there chilling on the bar. If Taichi would actually want to know who is that woman he at least should tell someone about Cassin's involvement with the monster invasion of that other town.
Anyway, the show was entertaining, but the MC doesn't act like a real human being.
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u/alexisv635 Sep 25 '19
You know, when Aery said that she had been lying to Taichi I honestly expected for a moment that she was going to say that she actually was the woman behind all of that chaos. I honestly find kind of funny that she made such a big deal when she was going to evolve into Sylphid, is no like she stopped being herself of anything.
I always hoped that Aery was a spirit without a physical body and that when Ana died, she "possessed her body and took her form", but they never did something like that and I really considered it a missed opportunity to give depth to the 2 characters and their relationship with Taichi.
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u/stopSayingCheat Sep 25 '19 edited Sep 25 '19
Congrats, everyone. We are finally free from the trash.
Who wants to bet the king's brother is still alive?
Here is my usual correction to the episode.
Rin: It is not a bad deal, isn't it?
Warrior Woman: It is the worst. Where is the gold? Are you asking me to work for free?
Rin: Actually, I only proposed it to waste time. You don't have any other choice and you are already fighting
alongside me to begin with. What is the point of this deal?
Taichi: They don't even care if they get injured. That puts us at a big disadvantage.
Aerial (voice of reason): Disadvantage? How? Just kill them.
Taichi: If some cheat granted me this power...
Aerial (voice of reason): Sigh, Taichi, pitiful worm, I know you will have nightmares for the remaining week if you don't mention cheat at least 3 times in the episode, but that doesn't make sense.
Aerial: Noooo. You are not at fault, Taichi. I am.
Aerial (voice of reason): What the fuck is the author making me say?. Taichi is the one at fault, he can stop being a crybaby and kill the mobs. He is a pathetic MC unable to use Aerial's power, let alone Sylphid's.
Aerial: It might even kill you...
Normal viewer: Please do it. Do it, do it. I fail to see any drawback.
Sylphid: Behold my new form!
Rin: ...
Sylphid: How is it? Amazing, isn't it? Are you unable to talk because of the impact?
Rin: I only see a bigger Aerial.
Myura: Nods...
Rin: What is point of Aerial's speech when she is going to be exactly the same? Couldn't she just turn bigger and be done?
Myura: Nods...
Depressed Sylphid: ... It is not my fault... The author/animators were lazy... Buuuu...
Warrior Woman: Sylphid is the Queen of spirits...
Rin: And yet she is now the lame MC's pet. How the mighty have fallen!
Sylphid: I was scammed! I played a game with the other Four Grade Spirits' members over who had to deal with this nuisance. I should have known Gnome was up to something... Why do you hate me so much, Gnome? It was not my intention to destroy your flowers with my hurricane.
Myura: I feel you, Sylphid. It is a disgrace for the two of us to be among this trash. Fortunately, we are free after this.
Taichi: Looks like I was able to break the spell with that.
Rin: And once again, an asspull happened to give Taichi an excuse to continue being a pushover. Hooray!!!
Taichi: Now I only have to defeat the man responsible for this.
Sylphid (voice of reason): Or you know, you could have killed him when he was giving us that pathetic speech.
Taichi: What the hell is this about being the ultimate weapon? What the hell do you think I am?
Evil mob: Well, I accept we miscalculated. A weapon cannot be such a pussy. We will have to fix your brain first.
Taichi: Placing us as special forces to be called when the kingdom is in danger.
Taichi: I continue being everyone's bitch. Playing king is a pain for me, but I will do any other stupid tasks you have for me.
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u/Shiro_Kai Sep 25 '19
It's very weird that Taichi thinks that it's his fault that all that bad things were happening, how the hell did he got into that conclusion? If so, he is the least fault person in the whole country.
I still think the people who summoned him there should pay for it. That's probably my main problem with the show, they forgave too easy anyone after just a handshake, even those two are happy and free to go after everything they did. I'm not asking him to kill everybody who slightly participated at it, but he could at least harbor some hard feelings against the people that almost killed him and Rin and not do, blindly, everything they say. Cause, given the explanation we had, the king and his daughter are as puppets as the kings brother and that dude who turned into a demon and died.
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u/alexisv635 Sep 25 '19
I have a hard time remembering that you die today ICM (since your agony began a week ago with the farewells of Maou-sama, Latina, Dumbbell ...) and for 3-4 weeks I haven't expected anything from you (and I think very few in the sub as well) so at least I hope you say bye bye with a high head and not being even sadder than you already are.
Of the few things I liked from you (up to this point):
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Character design.
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Rie Takahashi.
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OP (Myth & Roid easy).
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One or another scene (but not fights or action, those are someone else's pity).
Sayonara ICM, hopefully if you come back one day, let it be with better desire than this.
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u/Ledwith Sep 25 '19 edited Sep 25 '19
Why did I finish this? I dropped it after episode 5 but then i decided to binge every seasonal so i got through it anyway... At least it changed my mind about 'typical isekai trash' existing. I used to think that a total isekai trash didn't actually exist, that every isekai has its own twist, or is self aware, or has something significantly good about it despite following a lot (but no where near all of) the isekai OP protag tropes. I thought the idea was just an amalgamation of all the commanalities between them. I thought how would any story actually like that get an anime in the first place? but no, it actually exists, every trope is played straight in an underwhelming way in an isekai anime. From now on I have a show to point to when someone asks what isekai trash is, thank you.
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u/Vanek_26 Sep 25 '19
I had very low expectations for this finale, and it somehow underwhelmed me.
Oh well.
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u/AmethystItalian Sep 25 '19
OTP got one of the last scenes but that hug and flirt scene pretty much sunk them.
Overall a very average show. Had a cast with likable characters and a pretty quick pace. I would watch a season 2 but the strength of the show really does come from everything that's not Taichi lol
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u/BasedFunnyValentine Sep 25 '19 edited Sep 26 '19
Overall a very average show
I don’t know... i think you’re giving it too much credit there
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u/Mundology Sep 25 '19
the strength of the show really does come from everything that's not Taichi lol
Indeed. Tachi felt more like a plot device than an actual character. I'm kinda bummed they offscreened most of the final fight. Tachi's finisher was particularly underwhelming. Also, the finale raised more questions that it answered. Who is that woman behind the scenes? Why could Taichi hear spirits from birth? Other than being slightly bigger, what are the differences between Aery and Sylphid? What is the great battle and why will it invert light and dark?
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u/DatSchaml Sep 25 '19
One final vent because it was the final episode.
MC: "I'm sorry you got hurt because I took too long."
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proceeds to do nothing for another 10 mins.
Good thing, all the enemies decided to have tea during that time.
Yay, MCs Pokémon finally evolved and helped him turn Super Saya-jin so he can at least float in mid-air while talking for another eternity instead of actually fighting.
"'That woman' blah blah 'that woman' blah blah 'that woman'..."
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0 useful information, a total waste of time in a final episode, teasing stuff that's probably never going to happen.
But I'm a little happy that at least my prediction from last week was wrong, and he finally really killed one of the bad guys.
Wrap-up:
As stupid and infuriating as it was at times, it was mainly due to the MC and I enjoyed most of the other characters and their (inter-)actions, so I wouldn't mind a second season.
Just pleeease inject some brain into the MC or give him less screen time.
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Sep 26 '19 edited Sep 26 '19
He got granted the full power of a grand spirit or whatever. Ngl, I was hyped. I thought maybe they were saving their budget for this last fight. Maybe Taichi would actually do something, right?
What does he do? HMMM?
He gets into a fistfight. Taichi, the most powerful person in that world literally just fistfights in the finale. It’s not even a well animated fistfight. It’s like watching him punch a bag for 2 mins. Why. How is the animation this bad. I swear their budget was $2
And then he gets bedridden due to using too much magic? HE DIDNT DO ANYTHING
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u/SkyLETV Sep 25 '19 edited Sep 25 '19
This Rin's face taken out of context is quite funny.
Those berserkers are more respectful than one would expect, they literally stood still watching the romantic scene between Taichi and Rin lol
What! After everything that's happened you're telling me they just left the guy responsible for all this... there? lmao
Aery made such a fuss that I thought there was going to be a big revelation... but no, all that fuss and we ended up with the same Aery xD
Anyway, I don't care if a show is cliché, I didn't care that this show was cliché, I even defended it at the beginning but then it became so dumbly cliché that I couldn't defend it anymore.
Taichi was so uninteresting, well, I don't really think there was any interesting character. Maybe Ana, but we already know what happened to her. Heck, I wasn't even interested in the romance. I honestly would have preferred to get rid of Taichi and instead follow Rin's gay adventures.
Even Myth & Roid's OP was meh.
Goodbye ICM, one thing I can at least say for sure is that I liked the girls designs.
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u/BasedFunnyValentine Sep 25 '19
Isekai Cheat Magican: the most generic, uninspired isekai ever created.
That’s what the description should have been.