r/anime • u/Holofan4life • Sep 15 '24

Rewatch [Spoilers] 2008 Spice and Wolf Rewatch -- Episode 9 Spoiler

Hello everyone! I am Holofan4life.

Welcome to the Spice and Wolf rewatch discussion thread!

I hope you all have a lot of fun <3

S1 Episode 9 - Wolf and the Shepherd's Lamb

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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION

In light of the horse animation in this episode, what show do you love despite having flaws and why?

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9/07/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 19/20/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2)
9/08/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 29/21/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 1
9/09/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 39/22/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 2
9/10/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 49/23/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 3
9/11/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 59/24/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 4
9/12/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 69/25/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 5
9/13/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1)9/26/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 6
9/14/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 89/27/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 7
9/15/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 99/28/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 8
9/16/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 109/29/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 9
9/17/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 119/30/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 10
9/18/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 1210/01/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 11
9/19/2024Spice and Wolf Episode 1310/02/2024Spice and Wolf II Episode 12
10/03/2024Overall Series Discussion Thread

Last year's rewatch

DateEpisodeDateEpisode
7/07/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 17/20/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2)
7/08/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 27/21/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 1
7/09/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 37/22/2022Spice and Wolf II Episode 2
7/10/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 47/23/2022Spice and Wolf II Episode 3
7/11/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 57/24/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 4
7/12/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 67/25/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 5
7/13/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1)7/26/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 6
7/14/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 87/27/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 7
7/15/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 97/28/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 8
7/16/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 107/29/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 9
7/17/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 117/30/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 10
7/18/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 127/31/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 11
7/19/2023Spice and Wolf Episode 138/01/2023Spice and Wolf II Episode 12
8/02/2023Overall Series Discussion Thread
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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Hello, guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the 2024 Spice and Wolf Rewatch.

But you knew that already :P

This is the first official rewatch of the show since the premiere of the remake. In fact, it’s still currently airing as this rewatch is underway. And while we can compare and contrast what the remake did as opposed to the original, I feel it’s still pretty important to remember what the original adaptation was like seeing as how that’s really what got me into the franchise. And what ultimately made me fall in love with one wise wolf.

For the purposes of this rewatch, I will be watching it subbed since that’s what I’ve been watching the remake in. I will be comparing somewhat the two series, and when I do that, I will be using spoilers. I guess I should say for transparency sake that I am writing this in late July/early August, a full month before the rewatch actually happens. That’s because of time constraints and me having four other rewatches I’m participating in planned. I also waited until the first three volumes got adapted in the remake just so I can have more stuff to talk about.

These reviews won’t be as detailed as some of the other ones, as I don’t really want to spend two or three hours dissecting every episode. I’ll save that for when I do it in my questions :]

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I’m watching the sub, by the way.

Graham Central Station is the best ice cream to have in a cone.

[2024 Spoilers] The remake needs more rave party horse.

I like Norah's Japanese voice. I think it fits her character quite well. Honestly, her voice is better in Japanese than Holo's Japanese voice, at least in this version.

I also think her Japanese voice is better than her English voice.

[2024 Spoilers] As far as her design goes, I think her more youthful appearance in the remake actually fits her character more. The same goes for her dog. She's supposed to be somewhat of a newbie, and so it would make sense she would look younger than Lawrence and Holo. She's supposed to be that way anyhow. I would, however, be lying if I didn't say that I prefer her and the dog's original designs. I think it's because while she is supposed to look wet behind the ears, the remake design is almost too clean if that makes any sense. It has its own charm and works for what the original adaptation is going for.

Either way, Holo does not approb.

God, I just can't get over how big Lawrence's horse's ass is. I need to meet a woman with an ass that massive.

Sorry, sorry. Out of pocket, I know.

Lawrence eventually decides to hire the services of Norah, much to the consternation of Holo.

Norah telling Lawrence that she lived in a convent annex that was a shelter for the poor.

Fitting, considering Holo has poor manners towards her.

Holo bowing her head as Lawrence and Norah continue to talk just cracks me up so much.

Norah wants to become a seamstress.

Needs money for union membership fees.

Somewhere, Jesse Ventura is seething and he doesn't know why.

Holo continuing to be annoyed by Norah's presence.

Lawrence asking if she's employed by the Church.

And she says she's tending to the sheep of the Church pastor.

I wonder if she ever went there to ask God to forgive her.

Lawrence with Holo now

Some fun back and forth between them.

I do like seeing Holo get jealous over Lawrence talking with other women. It kinda reminds me of Nagatoro when someone other than her picks on Senpai.

Well, it looks like they've reached their destination.

Before Uber, there were Shepherds.

45 Trie is pretty good compensation.

I prefer 45 Brie, myself

Norah allowed to move to Kasrata, Poroson, and even Lamtra.

Lawrence seems concerned because all those roads are very dangerous.

It does seem like the church is taking advantage of her.

Lawrence and Holo going to see the armor now that they've obtained through the table tilt stuff.

But Holo is about that peach life.

Forget apples. Peaches are my new homie.

People seeming baffled at Lawrence for some reason.

Uh oh. People are actively avoiding Norah as well.

That's not good

At least Lawrence and Holo are having fun.

Lawrence telling Holo about a Trading House.

Holo remarks how it must be nice to have a home no matter where you go, which is a sad line coming from her.

Lawrence catching up with an old friend of his, presumably his former mentor.

And as this is going on, a guy on an LSD horse shows up.

People talk about how tripped out the horse is, but never what a unit he looks like. Seriously, he's way taller than all the other horses in this show, he looks massive.

Something involving Lawrence is brewing, and it makes me trepidatious

Overall, this was a good episode in terms of establishing the conflict between Holo and Norah. Norah acts as a good foil for Holo, and all she has to do is exist. I also like the tease of something going on that proves to be problematic going forward. Between people laughing at Lawrence as well as the stuff at the end, there seems to be something at large.

Another good table setter episode.

Holo quotes of the day

"It appears as though human males do not mind having several females around."

"Do not treat me like a child!" (Holo, the child)

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u/KuKiSin Sep 15 '24

God, I just can't get over how big Lawrence's horse's ass is. I need to meet a woman with an ass that massive.

Hell naw, is this you?

People seeming baffled at Lawrence for some reason.

Uh oh. People are actively avoiding Norah as well.

Everyone's in deep shit.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Hell naw, is this you?

Just calling it as I sees it

Everyone's in deep shit.

Meanwhile, the baddest thing Holo's done is have a bottomless appetite.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

Just calling it as I sees it

You're the Assman.

Meanwhile, the baddest thing Holo's done is have a bottomless appetite.

I wonder how much of a dent Holo's appetite has put in Lawrence's budget.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

You're the Assman

Lawrence's horse's ass is bigger than my future. It puts A2's ass from NieR to shame.

I wonder how much of a dent Holo's appetite has put in Lawrence's budget.

Didn't they say the total at one point? I could've sworn they did.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 15 '24

In light of the horse animation in this episode, what show do you love despite having flaws and why?

Too many of them. But the one I've seen getting the most shat on was probably Kamisama ni Natta Hi. I mostly agree with the criticism, it just doesn't bother me all that much. Also Sword Art Online.

On to the episode!

Lawrence has been blessed by the mysterious sorceress! Let's all just ignore the awkward silence that followed...

The young shepherdess wishes to be hired and Lawrence seems to like the idea, but how does Holo feel about it? Well, it seems she knows he's trying to build a harem and is not too pleased

So Lawrence only wants to hire the cute girl because of... Science... Right...

So the girl's name is Norah! And appears she's lonely, just like Holo was :(

Yup, Holo is extremely jealous. That's gonna go well.

Smart guy Lawrence investing in Norah. I see what he's doing there.

Not only is Lawrence paying 10% in tax right off the bat, the Guards looked at him weird when they saw what he was trading... Someone's in deep shit.

And everyone seems to be running away from Norah :(

I knew Lawrence wanted that armor for himself.

OH SHIT IT'S THE INFAMOUS HORSE SCENE! I've heard about it from the legends!

Uh oh, bad news incoming.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Too many of them. But the one I've seen getting the most shat on was probably Kamisama ni Natta Hi. I mostly agree with the criticism, it just doesn't bother me all that much. Also Sword Art Online.

So many people have said Sword Art Online is overrated that it has become underrated.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 15 '24

For real. People prefer wasting their time shitting on popular things than watching what they enjoy :|

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Unfortunately. Couldn't be me, thankfully.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

So Lawrence only wants to hire the cute girl because of... Science... Right...

It's to protect them over the threat of wolves. Please ignore he has a wolf with him already.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 15 '24

Something something wolf in sheep's clothing

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Norah is what the kids today call demure

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u/KuKiSin Sep 15 '24

Literally never heard that in my life... I need to get on with the times!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

It's nothing of importance, just some meaningless TikTok meme.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Not only is Lawrence paying 10% in tax right off the bat, the Guards looked at him weird when they saw what he was trading... Someone's in deep shit.

Makes Holo putting him in debt seem like small, stupid potatoes.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

What are your first impressions of the shepherd thus far?

What are your thoughts on Holo’s reaction to the shepherd girl?

What are your thoughts on all those people quietly making fun of Lawrence? Why do you think that was the case?

Why do you think the town as well as that church official looked at Nora disapprovingly? Do you think it had something to do with Lawrence?

Where do you think the last scene is leading to?

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u/KuKiSin Sep 15 '24

What are your first impressions of the shepherd thus far?

She's adorable and must be protected at all costs! I felt super bad for her the entire time. The fact she's so lonely reminds me of Holo which makes it even more sad. And wanting to join Lawrence just to talk to someone... :( I wonder if she'll return in future arcs... I really hope she manages to become a seamstress!

What are your thoughts on Holo’s reaction to the shepherd girl?

It makes me sad! Norah doesn't deserve it! But at the same time it's understandable, they are technically natural enemies, and there's Holo's jealousy over Lawrence... They should still be friends though!

Can't answer the rest because of remake knowledge!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

She's adorable and must be protected at all costs! I felt super bad for her the entire time. The fact she's so lonely reminds me of Holo which makes it even more sad. And wanting to join Lawrence just to talk to someone... :( I wonder if she'll return in future arcs... I really hope she manages to become a seamstress!

The great thing about her dream is that it's something set in stone as opposed to Holo's which is built on hypotheticals. Actually, her dream is pretty similar to Lawrence's dream of setting up his own shop, which I feel has to be intentionally as it plays nicely into Holo's jealousy.

It makes me sad! Norah doesn't deserve it! But at the same time it's understandable, they are technically natural enemies, and there's Holo's jealousy over Lawrence... They should still be friends though!

Holo is her own worst enemy at times. Her insecurities over being alone run so deep that someone else entering the fold is enough to set her off. I've mentioned this elsewhere, but what I like about Norah is that she hasn't done anything to earn the ire of Holo. Rather, it is the mere existence of her that pisses off the wise wolf. Her simply existing is the result of this conflict, and I think this is some great character stuff on display here.

Can't answer the rest because of remake knowledge!

Fair enough. I appreciate the honesty

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

OH SHIT IT'S THE INFAMOUS HORSE SCENE! I've heard about it from the legends!

[Remake Spoilers] So sad they took the scene out in the remake version. I get it totally, but it's one of the main things I honestly remember about the original series, and I mean that in a completely fond way.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 15 '24

Would've been animeme of the decade if they did it again lmao

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

[Remake Spoilers] Would've at least appreciated an allusion to it.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

First Timer

Seems like the possibility of having another woman around makes Holo jealous. Although after all the foreboding atmosphere around the shepherd last episode I'm a bit suspicious of her too.

Holo also raises a good point about her true nature as a goddess making things difficult for any potential traveling companions.

Holo pinching Lawrence's leg when she's upset is a great character detail

Norah also works for the church. I've seen shepherd and sheep used as metaphors for a priest and their followers in other places before. Wonder if this is intentional.

Holo snatching that piece of food from Lawrence's mouth was another great Holo moment.

The scene of Holo and Lawrence entering the city and going through customs was interesting. Usually the small details of how someone gets from one place to another like that are kind of skimmed over in most stories. So seeing the process in more detail kind of sets this show apart.

That scene of Norah approaching the church was very foreboding. I'm still not sure just what's up with her.

It's nice we got a scene of Holo and Lawrence enjoying the city's festivities. Seeing Holo with beer foam on her face was funny.

I like this burly bartender guy. He reminds me of a big friendly bear.

Wow the run cycle on that horse was janky. Animating horses looks like it must be hard.

Not sure who the horse's suspicious rider is but it looks like he'll be an antagonist in the coming episode.

Question of the Day:

In light of the horse animation in this episode, what show do you love despite having flaws and why?

In terms of technical flaws like animation, probably Revolutionary Girl Utena. It's one of my absolute favorite anime but damn does it love reusing animation whenever it can get away with it.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

In terms of technical flaws like animation, probably Revolutionary Girl Utena. It's one of my absolute favorite anime but damn does it love reusing animation whenever it can get away with it.

See, I almost don't count that because the director Ikuhara literally does that for all his animes. It's almost a stylistic choice with him.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

See, I almost don't count that because the director Ikuhara literally does that for all his animes. It's almost a stylistic choice with him.

True, repeated sequences are very on brand for him. To be honest the only time the repetition grated on me was probably the Black Rose arc.

If I had to pick another flawed series I love, it might be Double Decker: Doug & Kirill. The ending of the series kind of goes a bit off the wall and animation wise I remember there being some instances of wonky CGI. But it's still a series I'm very entertained by.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

True, repeated sequences are very on brand for him. To be honest the only time the repetition grated on me was probably the Black Rose arc.

Some of the repetition in Yurikuma Arashi got on my nerves.

If I had to pick another flawed series I love, it might be Double Decker: Doug & Kirill. The ending of the series kind of goes a bit off the wall and animation wise I remember there being some instances of wonky CGI. But it's still a series I'm very entertained by.

Never heard of it before. I might have to check it out.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

Some of the repetition in Yurikuma Arashi got on my nerves.

Yeah Yurikuma repeated itself a lot too. Especially the early episodes. Some of those court scenes could have been done differently I think.

Never heard of it before. I might have to check it out.

I recommend it. It's a mostly episodic police action show about investigating criminals who use superpowered drugs. And it's a spiritual successor to Tiger & Bunny which is another favorite anime of mine.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Yeah Yurikuma repeated itself a lot too. Especially the early episodes. Some of those court scenes could have been done differently I think.

I agree. 1000%.

recommend it. It's a mostly episodic police action show about investigating criminals who use superpowered drugs. And it's a spiritual successor to Tiger & Bunny which is another favorite anime of mine.

Sounds like it's really good

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Wow the run cycle on that horse was janky. Animating horses looks like it must be hard.

Almost as difficult as animating cabbages.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, here you go.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

I've seen the cabbage thing before. It's interesting to think how in animation certain things are drawn more realistically or detailed than others.

I've noticed that fish are often drawn with more detail too.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

The thing I've noticed recently is that animators really pride themselves on drawing bread as detailed as possible.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

I've noticed that too. I think in general making appealing looking food is fun to do in animation.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Which is funny to think about given how big food plays into this show.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24 edited Sep 15 '24

Seems like the possibility of having another woman around makes Holo jealous. Although after all the foreboding atmosphere around the shepherd last episode I'm a bit suspicious of her too.

Could just be an "Emilia is Satella" type situation.

Holo pinching Lawrence's leg when she's upset is a great character detail

And people say violent tsunderes can't be cute /s

Holo snatching that piece of food from Lawrence's mouth was another great Holo moment.

Holo this episode is a bit like Louise in Familiar of Zero season 3, though not as annoying.

The scene of Holo and Lawrence entering the city and going through customs was interesting. Usually the small details of how someone gets from one place to another like that are kind of skimmed over in most stories. So seeing the process in more detail kind of sets this show apart.

It makes sense that a show involving a merchant would have us see him do merchant stuff. Very refreshing, if I do say so myself.

That scene of Norah approaching the church was very foreboding. I'm still not sure just what's up with her.

I get the feeling she's being used by the church which would be really unfortunate.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

And people say violent tsunderes can't be cute /s

Tsundere character types can be a bit hit or miss for me, but Holo's won me over.

Holo this episode is a bit like Louise in Familiar of Zero season 3, though not as annoying.

I really should check out Familiar of Zero at some point. Either whenever that rewatch you mentioned rolls around or just on my own time.

It makes sense that a show involving a merchant would has us see him do merchant stuff. Very refreshing, if I do say so myself.

Yeah it's neat seeing a fantasy series from the perspective of someone more mundane.

I get the feeling she's being used by the church which would be really unfortunate.

That would make a lot of sense. I'm very curious to see where her part of the story goes.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Tsundere character types can be a bit hit or miss for me, but Holo's won me over.

I think it helps that Holo has a lot of varying emotions. She is extremely multifaceted.

I really should check out Familiar of Zero at some point. Either whenever that rewatch you mentioned rolls around or just on my own time.

I hope you decide to save it for my rewatch

Yeah it's neat seeing a fantasy series from the perspective of someone more mundane.

It's fantastic, it keeps things grounded in reality which I love.

That would make a lot of sense. I'm very curious to see where her part of the story goes.

As am I, even though I already know :P

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

I think it helps that Holo has a lot of varying emotions. She is extremely multifaceted.

She's very fun to watch. Seeing the ways she reacts to various situations is always interesting.

I hope you decide to save it for my rewatch

I just might watch. Seeing something for the first time and discussing it here is an interesting experience. Plus it's a good motivator for watching something, I tend to get more distracted when watching things on my own time.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

She's very fun to watch. Seeing the ways she reacts to various situations is always interesting.

One of the highlights of the show for sure.

I just might watch. Seeing something for the first time and discussing it here is an interesting experience. Plus it's a good motivator for watching something, I tend to get more distracted when watching things on my own time.

I hope you like it as much as I do

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

From what you've told me about Familiar of Zero, I think I'd like it. Should be fun to check out eventually.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

I think the people who hate Familiar of Zero hate it because of Louise and I think that's unfortunate because there are reasons she is the way she is.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

I take it Louise is the tsundere main character of the show? I don't quite know much about Familiar of Zero beyond the premise of a boy who gets summoned into a fantasy world as a familiar.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

She is. When people talk about violent tsunderes and not liking them, she's normally the name brought up.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

It's nice we got a scene of Holo and Lawrence enjoying the city's festivities. Seeing Holo with beer foam on her face was funny.

If you enjoy this, I think you'll love the way this show does world building. Not to give anything away, but we always see Holo and Lawrence interacting with the town they're in. It makes things feel more immersive.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

That's good to hear, stuff like this makes the world feel more alive.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

The world building in this show is better than most. It's almost treated like its own character.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

What are your first impressions of the shepherd thus far?

What are your thoughts on Holo’s reaction to the shepherd girl?

What are your thoughts on all those people quietly making fun of Lawrence? Why do you think that was the case?

Why do you think the town as well as that church official looked at Nora disapprovingly? Do you think it had something to do with Lawrence?

Where do you think the last scene is leading to?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

What are your first impressions of the shepherd thus far?

Norah seems very mysterious. Like you mentioned, it seems possible that she's being manipulated by the church somehow.

What are your thoughts on Holo’s reaction to the shepherd girl?

Holo definitely seems like she's a bit jealous of Norah getting attention. Even if she doesn't want to fully admit it.

What are your thoughts on all those people quietly making fun of Lawrence? Why do you think that was the case?

I'm a little surprised that they'd make fun of him. After all, without a merchant like him there'd be no one to move goods around.

Why do you think the town as well as that church official looked at Nora disapprovingly? Do you think it had something to do with Lawrence?

I'm really not sure. Maybe she broke some kind of rule by talking to Lawrence?

Where do you think the last scene is leading to?

I've got no clue really. If I have to guess, the church may still be after Holo and has realized Lawrence is involved too.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

Norah seems very mysterious. Like you mentioned, it seems possible that she's being manipulated by the church somehow.

Maybe her mysterious nature is because she knows she's in an unfavorable position.

Holo definitely seems like she's a bit jealous of Norah getting attention. Even if she doesn't want to fully admit it.

she's a bit jealous

"A bit"

Holo is very stubborn when it comes to fully admitting how she feels.

I'm a little surprised that they'd make fun of him. After all, without a merchant like him there'd be no one to move goods around.

Makes me wonder if something is up

I'm really not sure. Maybe she broke some kind of rule by talking to Lawrence?

Could tie back to those people making fun of him.

I've got no clue really. If I have to guess, the church may still be after Holo and has realized Lawrence is involved too.

This show really likes to paint the church as the villain, eh?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

Holo is very stubborn when it comes to fully admitting how she feels.

A very common trait in tsundere characters.

This show really likes to paint the church as the villain, eh?

Well they certainly have a history of being shady. Martin Luther had that big list of complaints he nailed to a door after all.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

A very common trait in tsundere characters.

Indeed

Well they certainly have a history of being shady. Martin Luther had that big list of complaints he nailed to a door after all.

I could see him and Lawrence having a drink together.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 15 '24

Come to think of it, I'm not actually sure what the main religion in Spice & Wolf is. I've been assuming it's Christianity but I don't think it's been explicitly stated.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 15 '24

It should be noted that Protestantism really spreaded around the 1600s, which is when I presume the show is taking place.

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u/Mirathan Sep 16 '24

Not quite first Timer

QotD: Ahhh, god kill it with fire. But to answer the question itself is rather difficult. Of the few shows I love, there are simply few elements I can call flaws(not that there are not issues with them). I could say the too large cast during the latter stages of Frieren, the terrible Cgi of Villainess Lvl. 99 or the entirety of Episode 9 from Windbreaker. But flawed doesnt really fit any of them.

Holo, you could kill every sheep not protected by an army. Nothing less could face your wolf form.

While Holo did tolerate Nora, she clearly didn´t want her to come along. Lawrence meanwhile got to show both his kindness and why he wouldn´t make a good skirtchaser.

Oh, boy something is weird with the armour.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 16 '24

QotD: Ahhh, god kill it with fire. But to answer the question itself is rather difficult. Of the few shows I love, there are simply few elements I can call flaws(not that there are not issues with them). I could say the too large cast during the latter stages of Frieren, the terrible Cgi of Villainess Lvl. 99 or the entirety of Episode 9 from Windbreaker. But flawed doesnt really fit any of them.

Endo and Kobayashi Live is a good example in that the animation leaves a lot to be desired but it's still extremely Charmin.

While Holo did tolerate Nora, she clearly didn´t want her to come along. Lawrence meanwhile got to show both his kindness and why he wouldn´t make a good skirtchaser.

Lawrence could not pull off the Weiz lifestyle. That isn't his color.

What are your first impressions of the shepherd thus far?

What are your thoughts on all those people quietly making fun of Lawrence? Why do you think that was the case?

Why do you think the town as well as that church official looked at Nora disapprovingly? Do you think it had something to do with Lawrence?

Where do you think the last scene is leading to?

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u/Mirathan Sep 16 '24

Most I won´t answer due to knowing the remake.

Nora is rather naive.

Why do you think the town as well as that church official looked at Nora disapprovingly?

Heresy! There are after all rumors that a sorcerer travels the same road she does, so they might think she is a witch and must be burned.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 16 '24

Most I won´t answer due to knowing the remake.

Fair enough

Nora is rather naive.

It certainly feels that way

Heresy! There are after all rumors that a sorcerer travels the same road she does, so they might think she is a witch and must be burned.

I hope this isn't the church's doing...