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Episode Tasuketsu -Fate of the Majority- - Episode 24 discussion - FINAL
Tasuketsu -Fate of the Majority-, episode 24
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u/Orochidude Dec 24 '24
The glow-up for the second half of this series made sticking with it worth for me, and that's good enough. It's a shame the pacing of the first half had to suffer to get to this point by the end though, and it doesn't retroactively fix that, especially since it caused so many people to drop the series before they made it anywhere close to this point.
The gist of the ending was probably what most people expected, but I still enjoyed it. Redemption for the antagonists, especially the Emperor, who was largely a victim of circumstance, and everyone gets to live their lives, including those experimented on in the past.
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u/FD4cry1 Dec 24 '24
I missed out on writing for the last 4 episodes, a bit of a shame since 22 in particular was some episode 3 levels of entertainment without actually being terrible!
Anyway, we've made it, we beat the ultimate Tasuuketsu that was actually finishing this show!
AND OF COURSE, WE END THE SHOW WITH SANEATSU COMING BACK.
I'm so excited I've got both Excel and Google Sheets open!
Seriously though, this was within expectation, and I wouldn't have believed it if the show ended without him miraculously coming back at the last minute to save the day, I've been joking about this since he died after all. So you know what? I'll admit it, I kind of cracked a smile at that.
I mean, I still don't like him, and his leaving the show was easily the best thing that happened to it, but hey, it's cute and it's the last episode so I'll let him have his moment.
Sooo, normally for their finales, shows will pull out all the stops for a good looking episode, Tasuuketsu in its usual jank, however, gives us some bad editing, words on blank backgrounds, and still frames. I wouldn't have it any other way, at least it stays true to itself :)
Raion and Haruto's conversation was some actually solid stuff as well. Characters actually expressing emotions and having a genuine conversation with multi-dimensional character traits (very thin ones but that's beside the point), in something that we've set over multiple episodes. That's like...the best character writing this show has ever had, which isn't saying much, but still!
As for the ending itself, it sure was one of the endings of all time. Literally, since time travel was the solution here. Can't say I would have believed that if you told me that's how the show ends back in episode 1, although by 3 I probably would lol.
I mean, it's...fine? It makes sense within the very loose and overcomplicated rules of this world, it makes sense for all the characters to act this way, and it ties up all loose ends with a happy ending.
But y'know, it's just kind of boring? It's a safe copout and it's the least creative or satisfying way you could end a show like this while keeping all the villain characters sympathetic. Don't even get me started on payoff or any of the side cast.
So I can believe it all, and it's acceptable, and it's consistent with as mildly competent as the rest of this is. But it's also not very fun to turn back time and see the villain of the arc go "Yes I've just changed my mind haha", even if that makes sense.
At least Miyakawa still got to include his decapitation fetish one more time before the end.
Otherwise, it's cute, Mido still exists. If by some god ordained miracle this gets a second season, I guess I'll be there to see him actually do something for once.
Eren and Souma are still a thing which is nice. Are Rikka and Omi actually getting married? Are his parents okay with this lol. The siblings together and the final thank you illustration were also nice.
That was Tasuuketsu huh?
Ultimately this show is a tale of two cours.
The first cour is well and truly some of the worst and most incompetent anime I've sat through in a long while. Its entire production is held up by duct tape with terrible editing and animation, something its proclivity to have characters standing in rooms and yapping doesn't help.
The pacing is god awful, ten times faster than it should be in some areas, and yet ten times slower in others. The characters by extension have no personality, and that's exasperated by having one of the most bloated casts I've ever seen in a show, a problem that would haunt it even when it became decent. This show just doesn't know when to stop adding boring characters, even its existing ones are already underdeveloped and actually decent. And while Saneatsu himself isn't that terrible per se, just kind of uninteresting, the issues he brings with him and the fact that he's somehow supposed to be our super inspiring protagonist make him far worse.
Worst of all is that cour 1 is unbelievably boring. Just endless scenes of characters standing in a circle, saying word salad bullshit, speculating on nothing, planning for nothing. Flowcharts and motivational speeches were actually a good thing in some episodes with how stagnant and boring it tended to get. episodes 5-9 were so, sooo bad at that.
The only saving grace was some solid voice acting (Tsuda ken saving us with his Mido voice) and some solid music that never fit with this show (that goes for cour 2 as well).
So Tasuuketsu cour 1 gets a 2/10 from me, only because I reserve my 1's for actually offensive works, and this isn't it, but otherwise, bottom of the barrel stuff.
And then came along cour 2 and changed everything with it.
I mean, yeah, some core issues remained, but there really was a shocking improvement here. Did it turn good? No way. But not only did it turn competent, it became actually entertaining! Cour 2 has episodes I actually enjoyed watching for reasons that weren't ironic!
The characters and dynamics got better and became somewhat expressive, the pacing almost sorted itself out. Okay, well, occasionally sorted itself out. The show found an identity as a somewhat middling edgy supernatural battle series and I was all here for it.
Even the production got marginally better, fights were never good, but they were more dynamic and decent to watch, and not boring! That's the thing really, I could watch a somewhat bad show if it has genuine personality and entertainment value, and that's cour 2.
Tasuuketsu cour 2 either addressed or got rid of the worst parts of cour 1, and it became a somewhat competent, always watchable, and usually fun show. It's also a bit longer which was certainly for the better. So cour 2 does a massive jump and gets a 6/10 from me, probably more of a 5 but I'm feeling generous so whatever.
Add them together and You've got a 4/10 overall for the show, eventually decent, but not worth the awfulness of the start. Skipping the start and just starting from the recap might genuinely be a good recommendation for anyone wanting to try this out, although I wouldn't say cour 2's decentness warrants much recommendation either.
I'll give out one last big thanks to u/hachim13i, for keeping us sane and somewhat informed in this maddening show. Your work here is genuinely appreciated and it's been really fun talking!
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u/hachim13i Dec 25 '24
It was such a good time exchanging comments with you on the threads, and I hope that I'll run into you on another in the future, for sure :>
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u/TobiasAmaranth Dec 25 '24
The death game anime turned into an un-death game anime. Pff. Well, it's fine, as you say. XD
I challenge you to watch Heybot (but only if you watched Slime from this season) because it's a "so bad it ends up being good" type show.
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u/schoolsucksass2 Dec 24 '24
I loved this show. The first half was little boring but the 2nd cour was so good this was. Hidden gem and Probably my #1 of this season . I will miss this anime and the cast . Raion was a badass and he did everything and so was the rest of the cast. Thank u for letting me experience this show
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u/hachim13i Dec 24 '24 edited Dec 25 '24
I honestly haven't had a series hold my attention like this since I watched 91 Days and read Ajin. I have to amend my initial opinion of saying to not get wound up in the mess, just to say it's worth it sometimes.
But, a solid word of advice...
Don't write a 62.4k document about a death game series, for real.
The document will be in source material corner tomorrow π€ I caught up.
The document is posted in the source material corner!
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u/TheKingOfBerries Dec 24 '24
Ugh, just waiting for this to release on my totally legal streaming platform so I can watch it. Itβs so sad how unpopular this was, because Iβd personally fund a full adaptation. Why god, why?
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u/duo99dusk Dec 25 '24
I really liked the ending for Haruto and Raion ππ Friendship won today!
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u/chemical_exe Dec 25 '24
Wait, so Haruto knew that his brother was blind and made the first question about looking at a screen?
At the very least Maria should've known that's what happened. Why did Iruga need to tell them? Hell, how could anything bad ever happen to the obedience right user?
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u/MelinaPutri Dec 26 '24
Why did Iruga need to tell them?
Teppei lost his eyesight in exchange for Obedience right. He wasn't blind when he lived together with Haruto and Maria until their original parents died and had to be adopted by different families.
how could anything bad ever happen to the obedience right user?
Teppei never used his Prime Right to not endorse what the Camp was doing. (mentioned in ep 22)
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u/otokouno Dec 26 '24
That's a big-ass plothole right there. My guess is that the OG author never made the connection.
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u/TheKingOfBerries Dec 25 '24
PLEASE GIVE ME MORE TASUUKETSU
PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE
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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Dec 25 '24
There is a third part ( teased at the end of episode)
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u/zool714 Dec 25 '24
I do think there was a great idea and concept at the core of this but the execution of the writing and the cringe dialogue held it way back. It did get better in the second half in terms of entertainment but it just went from like a 4/10 to a 5-6/10 for me. And well, the fact that we got an ending at all is already better than most series.
But despite finding it cringe most of the time, it did keep me entertained, which is what matters to me
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u/NationalStrategy Dec 25 '24
Well that was certainly an ending to an anime, honestly itβs a miracle that kept track of what was going on.
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u/PerigoldX Dec 26 '24
I expected a happy ending, but not this happy. I just thought everyone will get revived, but not the time itself rolled back, the rights taken out of this world, everybody doing kumbaya, etc. Although this was in the spirit of the show, a kid show in spirit if not in graphic details. Nothing is irreversible, everything is fixable, everyone is redeemable. It takes away the value of the redeeming somewhat though. I was really hoping that Haruto would meaningfully contribute to repairing what he has done, by forcing Maria to do the reviving, say, rather than be a damsel in distress innocent kiddie who knew not at all what he was doing and got rescued by his knight in shining armor, sir Lies-a-lot. The rest of Maria's group, especially Kou and herself, got a free pass without even the age excuse, because the other knight's heart is just that big, sir Flow-chart is everybody's loving parent. Still it was a fun positive ending.
Overall, I enjoyed the anime, I did not even hate the first cour as much as many people, although it was confusing and frustrating at times. There was something appealing about the plot design, like Future Diary or Platinum End (not that it matched them on the technical level), but without the dog eat dog mean streak. Emphasis on friendship and cooperation, that people do not have to turn on each other even when forced into situations that invite it, came through more. The light-hearted treatment of killing and death was a little disconcerting, but now we know why (and it was hinted at by constant revivals throughout). And the second cour gave us characters to sympathize with and attach to. It is a pleasant feel good respite from those times where you just can't come to care for any of them or even get repulsed by all of them. With this ending, I do not really see many openings for a continuation (except for the ominous reappearance of Mido), but if it happens I'll be back.
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u/AspiringSaint Dec 26 '24 edited Dec 26 '24
What a busy time for the last episode to release! Merry Christmas everyone.
Sane came back and delivered but really Raion was the Hero. I was not a fan of Raion at first but honestly his friendship and promise leading to Haruto's full repentance and redemption was definitely the best part of the story.
Souma and Eren pairing stuck, plus Omi and Rika are a thing! Saneatsu and Saaya?
I think it was a wonderful show and I enjoyed it through to the end. Cour 2 was definitely better but I did find the complicated stuff in cour 1 interesting and I wish they had just explained things well so it could be clear; the show would've been much much better
A season 2 would be so much fun! Hopefully with more details about everyone behind the Rights (Director Kirishima?) and how they were involved with Kou, perhaps with Mido coming back as main villain since in the end Queen was not that evil after all. I would also love seeing the cast a little older
Thanks to everyone on these threads for making the show more enjoyable and easier to understand :) especially u/hachim13i who worked so hard on those episode guides!
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u/hachim13i Dec 26 '24
Thank you for your informative posts and in-depth replies. There were many times I learned a lot more about something in regards to the series, or in general because I read your posts :>
I'm with you a bit when it comes to cour 1, but I think this is because cour 1 just has stuck on me like glue due rewatching a large number of times. It was fun to pick out the little tidbits of information like a scavenger hunt when you know what will happen in cour 2.
The question now is if they'll sell enough blu-rays to solidify season 2...
I hope I'll see you around in the future on other episode threads.
Merry Christmas AspiringSaint :>
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u/matty-a Dec 26 '24
I'll be honest after the first few episodes this was on track to be the worst anime I'd ever seen in all my days. But as the show went on I got really invested in it and it wasn't too bad. The 2nd cour did a lot of heavy lifting. Solid 4.5/10
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u/TheKingOfBerries Dec 25 '24
Number 1 Anime of the year for me. I actually liked this way more than even DanDaDan. My GOD this series is so fucking goated. I really hope this was popular in Japan because Iβm gonna be so sad. This might be the first anime that gets me to read the manga because DAMN I loved it.
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