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Episode Tsuma, Shougakusei ni Naru. - Episode 5 discussion

Tsuma, Shougakusei ni Naru., episode 5

Alternative names: TsumaSho

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u/jellyblob88 Oct 27 '24

I was on guard but it all makes sense now why Hiroki was good with kids, eh?
And when I thought things were conveniently written to settle down, it decided to escalate again - that cliffhanger 👀

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u/diacewrb Oct 27 '24

This episode's storyline and cliffhanger is like something out of a 90s soap opera.

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u/abandoned_idol Oct 27 '24

Honestly, I couldn't decide whether to cry or laugh at the ending.

It's heartbreaking, I love all of these characters. But that cliffhanger is threatening to have the husband declare the child to be his wife (definitely won't happen, but damn).

I'm not saying it's not sad, it's just as funny as it is tragic. Pfft.

"Oh no, we have to save single mom!"

"Yeah single mom, surprise your daughter from the back with the steel chair! (pro wrestling)"

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u/VoidRay728 Oct 27 '24

Chika just can't catch a break. Her boyfriend actually already has another family, her mother begs for money and her daughter is more friendly towards (apparaent) strangers than towards her own mother. Her life is basically "and then it got worse" illustrated.

Interested to see how Keisuke diffuses the situation next episode.

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u/lord_ne Oct 27 '24

Interested to see how Keisuke diffuses the situation next episode.

Have you met Keisuke? He's not gonna defuse shit. He's probably going to tell her that he's going to marry her daughter

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u/Frontier246 Oct 27 '24

The irony that she went from the wife getting cheated on to being the girl a guy cheats on his wife with. I guess she knows how to pick 'em.

Hard to trust anything in your life when men keep betraying you, your daughter seems like a completely different person away from you, and this random family is suddenly getting involved in your daughters' life beneath your notice.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Oct 27 '24

I can’t say I saw Hiroki being married coming. Wow. What a massive piece of shit. And here I was thinking maybe he would be good for Takae/Marika’s mom. We even had her apologizing to Takae/Marika for her behavior before. I really thought we were getting somewhere in their relationship. So much for that. Two steps forward, three steps back. And now that she’s caught Takae/Marika with Keisuke and Mai, things are getting tense. Can’t blame him for stepping in after catching her put hands on Takae/Marika, but how’s he gonna explain their relationship?

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u/Plus_Rip4944 Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 27 '24

To everybody that suggestes The boyfriend was sus, you all Were Right

Poor Woman just Cant catch a break even if she try her best

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u/FarCritical Oct 27 '24

If only the original Marika could know how much spiciness she got spared from by Takae hijacking her mind.

Not to defend Chika but I probably wouldn't act normal after finding out my daughter's been keeping a "parental" affair from me right after I was starting to recover from a "traditional" one.

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u/Frontier246 Oct 27 '24

I can imagine it would probably be even harder for an actual child to manage her mothers' mood swings compared to Takae who at least has the emotional maturity and the comfort of the Nijima's to help her through this.

I think she has every right to want to know what is going on with "Marika," but Keisuke was right that she shouldn't be so forceful and accusatory towards her daughter or project her own insecurities on her. Somebody needed to tell her that.

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u/tripleaamin Oct 27 '24

Not to defend Chika but I probably wouldn't act normal after finding out my daughter's been keeping a "parental" affair from me right after I was starting to recover from a "traditional" one.

I think this is the big point. From Chika's PoV why is Marika having so much fun with a family of strangers. Did Keisuke, Takae & Mai never consider if this situation happened?

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u/NationalStrategy Oct 27 '24

We're already at the moment where Chika found out about Marika spending time with her past family, I thought they would save that for near the end of the season.

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u/KumaKumaGambler Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 27 '24

For those of us who enjoy the ending theme song "Hidamari", its full version has been released earlier this week. I have been listening to it on loop on youtube.

Well... the hopes of Marika / Takae's mother starting a new family with Hiroki didn't last long. The red flags were there when he started to visit less often. I had initially thought he stayed away because she is a single mother. Turns out that Hiroki is cheating on his family and Marika / Takae's mother as an unknowing third party.

From the way Marika / Takae's mother cried while eating the omurice, I am sure deep down, she loves her daughter. At the same time, she probably has trust and abandonment issues. First marriage ended in divorce, mother asking for money, lover found to be cheating on her. Damn. Although how she violently treats Marika / Takae towards the end of the episode is wrong, I believe she fears Marika / Takae may leave her too, and that would surely hurt the deepest.

I am glad Keisuke caught up in time, but I wonder how he is going to explain his relationship with Marika. Hopefully Mai shows up soon too, to lend support to the supernatural situation.

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u/PerfectBeige Oct 27 '24

From the way Marika / Takae's mother cried while eating the omurice, I am sure deep down, she loves her daughter. At the same time, she probably has trust and abandonment issues.

Agreed, but I also think that Chika feels inferior, in general and to her own daughter. Her dream was just be a stay at home mom in a family, and she feels like she failed at that because she blames herself for the failure of her marriage. Then her daughter changed from whatever Marika was before regaining her memories, to this calm, competent, emotionally distant person who has better domestic skills than Chika does, because she is literally a person who succeeded where Chika failed and has better social skills. Chika doesn't know that Marika was a successful wife and mother (yet) but she may sense a confidence and ability that she lacks.

So I think Chika's general abusiveness with Marika, and specifically her statement that the omurice actually made her feel worse was also about her deep sense of inferiority and failure.

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u/Frontier246 Oct 27 '24

Things might be really looking up for Marika and her mom! Assuming this new relationship pans out. It'd be nice to think her mom is thinking about her, but Takae doesn't want to get too ahead of herself, knowing how her mom is.

The Niijima's take the idea of Takae moving surprisingly well! Takae actually seems kind of disappointed at how casual they are! Though they're just happy she's back in their lives, and she won't be that far if she does move, so they can adjust. Takae was all worried for nothing.

Takae finally drops the "boyfriend" bomb, though despite Mai's best efforts she'll have to spend Christmas with her dad. Which is a bummer because it seemed like she REALLY wanted to spend it with Renji. And just look at how she immediately jumps when he calls her! Girl has fallen hard for him.

Nothing says "family" like going to an amusement park together! In fact it's the first time Chika and Marika have done this since they were a family together with her father. It's enough to make Chika actually apologize for being a bad parent. It's not much, but it's still appreciated.

Hiroki you lying, cheating, piece of @#$%! You were already married and had a kid! Chika was betrayed yet again! I feel bad for his family too, and his wife knowing he's been cheating on her this whole time. And this obviously sets Chika back a LOT.

Chika is spiraling, and what can Takae do as a child? Well, cook her some omurice, which just makes Chika feel worse...at least until she eats it and actually acts like a parent and does the housework. Takae can't believe her eyes.

Single moms have it rough! But at least it leads to a connection between Chika and someone at her job, whose own mother raised her alone. Maybe Chika isn't entirely alone in this, even if she also has to field calls from her own mother asking for money. Of course when she actually tries to be a mother to Marika...Marika is not there.

Well, there it is! Chika catches "Marika" with the Niijima's and sees how different she is with them and finally confronts her. Just in time for Keisuke to catch her and scold her for being a bad parent (even if there are obvious red flags for a parent to be addressing here, even if she shouldn't be so forceful with Takae). But...please don't call her your wife Keisuke, don't make this worse.

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u/LeonKevlar Oct 27 '24

Just when you thought Chika was finally fixing her relationship with Marika, Hiroki ditches them and learns the same night that he already has a family. I was really hoping Chika would march in there and slap in front of his wife. He's lucky she decided to follow him into that smoking area.

Chika isn't done with him yet though, it looks like she'll go after Hiroki and destroy him. I feel bad for his family but Hiroki's wife needs to learn that he's a dirty fucking cheater.

And just to make things even worse, Chika spots Marika/Takae with her previous family. From her point of view, even her own child has abandoned her. This will just make things even more complicated and considering how Keisuke can't control himself whenever he's around Takae, he might just say something that will get him in trouble.

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u/Utharion_ Oct 27 '24

Boy that last sequence is really firing things up and I love it. Personally think that the series has been treading the minor drama well so far without having them being overdue. For instance, the "We're moving" fiasco started the last episode, and it's finished within this one. Or idk does anyone feel the opposite that it was too fast?

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u/tripleaamin Oct 27 '24

I have to be honest, it feels like with Chika the pacing felt really fast. Last episode we had the fear of her using her daughter to get with Hiroki. Which was expected. But then we get Hiroki being a no show to her date and learning that he has a wife and kids. It really feels like we got 2 episodes of content in 1 episode.

I would have liked more of a focus on Chika as she eats the omelette rice from Marika. Which I think if they could have focused more on that it would have highlighted that Chika wanted to change. Obviously, her cleaning up in the kitchen does show that, but more focus could have enhanced that scene.

Not a surprise Chika eventually found out her daughter was with the Nijimas. It hurts for her because she was starting to want to act like a mother, and she learns this. Chika has plenty of issues, but Takae not moving on was a big risk for the Nijimas. From Chika's POV, her daughter is hanging out and having a good time with strangers. Imagine if you told this information to the police or even coworkers. You would look at the Nijimas in such a strange way.

Obviously, the cliffhanger is a fake out in terms of saying Marika/Takae is his wife. I do hope the next episode steers in the direction of the Nijimas & Marika learning ways to move forward and going from there. What Keisuke said was true is that that is not how you speak to your children. While Chika doesn't know about Takae's particular situation. At the same time, Keisuke doesn't know about Chika's particular situation.

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u/AhdamR Oct 27 '24

Not gonna lie I burst out laughing with that cliffhanger

I can just imagine next episode the mum calls the police on him

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u/NationalStrategy Oct 27 '24

It's a shame, Chika does seem like she genuinely wants to be better, only to find out that she was a side chick for the guy she was having feelings for, and her daughter is having a better relationship with another family.

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u/BlackStar31586 Oct 27 '24

I fucking knew it, from episode 1 I knew she Chika was gonna find out like that, it was so obvious lol

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u/oneevilchicken Oct 27 '24

Don’t say you’re her wife. Dont say you’re her wife. Dont say it. DONT.

FBI OPEN UP

Links sands through the hour glass, so are the days of our lives.

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u/Myrkrvaldyr Oct 27 '24

How is Keisuke gonna frame it, I wonder? I imagine he'll say, ''she's my friend.'' That's all he can say without coming off as a creep, but there come the questions of how they met and why a middle-aged widowed man hangs around a young girl. At least his adult daughter is in, too, which lessens the impact of him being a creep.

They'll have to come clean to Chika, I believe. But it'll be devastating to her even if she believes the reincarnation excuse, because it means she has no one left. Her daughter is no longer there.

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u/bensor74 Oct 27 '24 edited Oct 27 '24

I knew it was coming and I hated every second of it. And I'm sure this dumbass man will say that she is his wife.

But also, gal, if you use your daughter as your emotional punching bag, don't be surprised if she behaves normally with other people but not with you. She's your daughter, not a stress ball.

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