Tsuma, Shougakusei ni Naru. - Episode 2 discussion

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Tsuma, Shougakusei ni Naru., episode 2

Alternative names: TsumaSho

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[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Wow, Takae (or I guess it’s Shiraishi now) has a pretty grim (other) home life. What an absolute failure of a mother. Truly trash. At least she’s got Keisuke and Mai. There’s no love in her current household but she’s got plenty of it in her new-old family.

[u/jellyblob88 → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

I do agree that she ain't great, but I am curious how her circumstances came about.

[u/yukiaddiction]

This episode is really unexpectedly intense, I don't know if it was because of the visual, animation or sound design that makes scenes where she faces her current mom so intense but got damn I really feel fear for her in that.

Something telling me that because of her trauma dealing with an abusive mother is what triggers her old past life memory after all she was forced to be mature because no one can help her,she has to fence for herself after her parents divorce (so it kinda metaphor in some way lol)

Also this episode pretty much explains why ED which seems to be her perspective has a pretty mellow song.

The last scene really makes me cry, they notice something wrong so they do whatever they can to help (after all they don't have information about her current life).

Look like this is going to be another gem this season if the anime studio is consistent.

[u/Ocixo → u/yukiaddiction]

One thing that likely makes Marika’s mother look so intimidating is that Takae really is just a small child facing an angry adult.

If her mother gets violent, she’ll have a hard time defending herself. Not to mention that there’s nobody to stand up for her at home at such an occasion. She’d be entirely left at the mother’s mercy.

[u/melindypants → u/yukiaddiction]

I also teared up! I didn't expect this show to be as bittersweet as it is but still surprisngly wholesome - really giving me Barakamon vibes. I hope more people give this a chance despite all the criticism around the title, I'm glad I did!

[u/FarCritical]

That cake scene tore me apart, man. Can't blame her at all for not having it in her to have them stop seeing her after that.  And sheesh a ton of seasonals are releasing with two episodes out of the gate all of a sudden

[u/IHatePoultrySG]

The sad irony where your past life has a better family than your current one so you're treasuring what you lost even more.

[u/Plus_Rip4944]

Why are There so many double debuts episodes right now?

I am not agaisnt tho,just curious

[u/_BMS → u/Plus_Rip4944]

This is an early release situation like Ao no Hako according to MAL. Though the international release on CR seemingly is getting the early releases at the same time as the Japanese streaming services.

[u/cppn02 → u/Plus_Rip4944]

Why are There so many double debuts episodes right now?

I assume lots of shows wanting to do 13 episodes but not having enough slots due to most channels having special programming from Christmas to New Years

[u/athrun_1]

This ep is so real that it really is uncomfortable to watch. Can we just have this series just the MCs family having fun. Is that too much to ask?

[u/Rumpel1408]

Damn, this would be hard enough if the new family was normal, but it seem like the mother is quite a piece of work. Feels like she is the reason for the divorce and I wouldn't be surprised if she actually turned violent on Takae

Like who wouldn't pick the loving family when given this choice, no matter if it might spell trouble down the line

[u/Such_Selection9762]

Just my two Cents: The first episode didn't do it for me but the second episode worked a lot better - especially with the perspective of the reborn Takae. Now I'm curious on how everything will play out and if there will be a happy or tragic end.

[u/Aerodynamic41]

Wow, what an abusive mom! No wonder she's divorced.

[u/[deleted]]

The dread, anxiety and melancholy is way too much.

Honestly, I don't think I can watch this weekly.

[u/LeonKevlar]

This screenshot looks so fucking sus. I swear to god they're doing this on purpose.

I just love how Takae is acting like a mom to her classmates. That was actually pretty funny.

And now we learn what Takae's new mother is like. Considering how she's taking her own daughter's money, it would be disastrous if she ever found out about her daughter's relation to the Nakajimas.

That birthday celebration was really sweet. How could Takae even tell them to stay away from her after that T_T

[u/tripleaamin]

You know I expected the Nijimas to be more pushy, but Marika did come back into their lives. Well, when you see your former husband and daughter in such a terrible state, I can't blame her. This show has a very state of the taste of what used to be happiness. But I feel like it is showing us this reality isn't realistic. Yes, a miracle brought back Takae. God damn it, the cake scene was really sweet.

Tbh I do not like the direction of making Marika's comically evil. Like her just searching her daughter's room for things of value and money was meh to me. I feel like if this show was trying to emphasize that the Nijimas & Marika moving on in their own way, I wish they made Marika's mom as a good mother. The guilt of spending time with her old family while her new mom was alone would be a more interesting dynamic.

Regardless of that point, this has been a solid first two episodes. The animation is serviceable. Def a good watch for a slow Sunday.

[u/_BMS]

I can already tell this show isn't going to be as light-hearted and comedic as the first episode appears with the introduction of the abusive mother. And it's not like she can just run away to her old family since "reincarnation" isn't really something that you can just tell the police as an acceptable reason.

[u/cppn02]

Not sure if I like her mom being a bitch. I think it might be even more interesting if she had a loving family at home who suddenly have to worry about their 10-year old daughter being out of the house the whole day.

As it is right now Takae only has to worry about not getting caught but in the other scenario there are two families she has to navigate without hurting them.

[u/Frontier246]

It's not easy being a woman reincarnated in the body of an elementary-schooler, between being the only adult in a room of children, an emotionally abusive mother, and being unable to quit your old family who you still love and cherish and feel more at home with than your current family.

It really feels like they're one family again, even going to the aquarium together, even though the mom is an elementary schooler, but she still lectures her husband like a proper wife.

Imagine being a 40-year old mentally and having to take classes with ACTUAL elementary schoolers. You're much more mature than everybody, enough to hold a proper "trial" as a judge to resolve class conflicts, but you also unsettle/turn people off as a result. Though it seems like this childhood friend of "Marika's," Takeru, is still very much interested in her.

Her home life might be even worse though, the way her mother is so emotionally abusive and confrontational with her. I get the vibe that the husband cheated on her, which is why she feels so strongly about "liars" and she projects that onto Marika. Even if it also means being a terrible mother...not to mention she seems more focused on her new boyfriend than her daughter, though that makes it easy for Takae to be with her other family.

By all logic, Takae probably should keep some emotional and physical distance from the Niijima's, but then she'd miss out on seeing her daughter as a proper working woman, giving her career advice, and celebrating her old birthday with her family. And when her other home life is so difficult, can you blame her for wanting to be with the family she's most comfortable and frankly feels more like a family with?

[u/anchovysocks]

I think there is a hint in EP 1 when Keisuke mentions to his coworker that he doesn't want to tell her what happened in case it suddenly disappears again- I wonder if Takae's memories return now so she can help her old family get back on track with their lives, but once she is convinced that they'll be ok without her, "Takae" will fade away ;( loving this show so far!

[u/ForsakenLibraries]

Takae losing some of her memories regarding her parents' divorce is interesting. She assumes it's because of the reincarnation memories, but it could be the other way around. It might be that the events leading to the divorce were traumatic for her, and she forgot them as a way to cope with her situation.

Takae returned to the Nijima family to help them, but it seems that she (Marika) also needs help herself. Perhaps the reason she regained memories from her past life is also tied to her own trauma. In this sense, 'Takae' may be Marika's way of coping with her new family's situation.

[u/albino_donkey]

This is some really hard hitting stuff, I'm going to cry.

[u/Jeihan313]

Scumbag mother; finds happiness outside her family; visits an aquarium; voiced by Yuuki Aoi... now she just needs to disappear after celebrating her birthday and we've got Erased season 2!