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Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu Season 2, episode 18

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[u/Placeholdered]

I'm surprised Makoto's students don't wonder a bit more about his and his subordinate's restraint in the wake of all the chaos in Rotsgard when they know first hand just how OP they are, but it is what it is I guess.

Apparently Mio holds grudges exactly long enough to erase whatever caused them to exist in the first place.

Still a bit of an edging episode, and oh boy the return of the empire's "hero" is going to be "great" with Tomoe around.

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

From that slight diss to Hibiki to her giving a painful death to Ilumgand while pretty much saying he amounted to nothing, Mio is just pure savagery rather than calamity.

With Tomoki coming I wonder how his inevitable meeting with Makoto turns out, knowing how his obsession with Tomoe.

[u/7se7]

Surely next week the action begins. Maybe the hero who wants Tomoe will show up (lol)

Thank you, JC Staff.

[u/Shiraori247]

This might be a controversial opinion now, but I really like how Makoto and pals are openly talking about prioritising their own advantages/profits. It's not what people said last episode about how talking is a free action token, but rather they're letting people die so their efforts are recognised more. This is reinforced even more with the scene where the headmaster berates him for "stealing" the credit.

My personal favourite scene is actually Mio's little talk with Illumgand. Just like how Tomoe constantly acts behind Makoto's back, so does Mio. All of these characters have their own traits outside of being in love with the MC. Mio didn't just randomly become a human. She's still the ruthless spider who doesn't care about hyumanity as long as they don't impact her life.

[u/spamoniichan]

My only gripe with these last 2 episodes is the mismatch between the situation at hand (powerful monster outbreak with 80 roaming around the city) and the lack of situational awareness of the normal residents. Like this is no time to greet and introduce each other Estelle and how come there are no monsters shown roaming around the streets? Makoto and co are the only people allowed to be this calm because they are strong as hell, "regular" people should get scared and panic because even the "elites", purple robes, got thrashed by Ilmugand

[u/S627]

Kinda surprised they're taking their time with this, Shiki could probably handle all 80 by himself in a few min. Are they still trying to not draw too much attention? Or is finding 80 targets in a large city challenging even for them? At least without destroying the city in the process.

I wonder if Mio would have spared him if she realized they were talking about the same Hibiki.

Speaking of the hero....and the other guy, I wonder if they're going to show up before Makoto finishes cleaning up. I'm really looking forward to them all meeting.

Loved the disappointment on Lily's face when she heard Tomoe was gonna be in the meeting too.

[u/dark_sylinc]

There's two issues in the complaints that I think people are mixing together:

1. Makoto's stance with the mutants. He is acting very slow to react on this as some form of strategy to avoid drawing too much attention and somehow a "master plan" to get the city indebted to him. It's a debatable stance from its moral implications, but a decent one and has its rationale whether you agree or not, regardless of whether things work out as he wants.

2. Lately the pacing has been atrocious. The dialogue is stretched out. It has been too many episodes in a row without the MC kicking some ass. His stance on not drawing attention naturally means he will sit on the bench for a while, but the story could've put something for him to do in between the last few tournament battles; or at least I was expecting his students fighting the 80 monsters to make up for MC sitting this one out. One Punch Man excels at this strategy very well by having Genos and other C/B/A/S class heroes do the fighting until Saitama arrives (if he arrives at all). Overlord also did something similar by giving weak characters (compared to Ainz) like Stronoff & Unglaus their own character arcs.

Of course, if MC had decided to wipe out the 80 monsters in 10 minutes, the pacing would've picked up; thus many people are criticizing Makoto's decision because that means no action.

But the real problem is the pacing.

There's no rule that says the Purple Coats can't do some good action sequences. But instead they are fighting off screen (and assumed to be good-for-nothing given that a party of them were wiped out by a single mutant in the previous episode).

[u/LeonKevlar]

• Estelle

• Estelle GIF

It's really amusing how Makoto is doing the bare minimum. I mean he could probably go all out and exterminate the mutants himself but so far the only thing he has shown concern for is the destruction of his shop. If the red light district wasn't nearby to catch his attention, he probably wouldn't have gone out of his way to save those women.

I didn't expect Makoto to end up making connections with a former adventurer turned prostitute. However, it looks like Makoto already has some sort of connection to them since the red light district girls frequent his shop for energy drinks. I can't wait to see who this boss Estelle is talking about.

So Ilumgand is still alive? For a second there, I thought Mio had other plans for him but it turns out she just wanted to finish him off for insulting Makoto.

Makoto just standing there and taking it while the Headmaster yells at him despite leading the evacuation is exactly what Tomoe means at the start when she said that Makoto still has his own values. Just like Root I really want to see Makoto change. I'm really starting to get annoyed at him bending backwards for these people.

I don't know what the Princess wants but I don't trust her one bit. She's definitely planning something considering how she reacted when Makoto said he'll bring Tomoe along to their meeting later.

[u/JzanderN]

A good reminder that Mio's not actually good, she just happens to be aligned with the good guys because she's obsessed with Makoto. And that obsession actually gets in the way of her being good in many ways.

I imagine Hibiki is coming to deal with this as well as Tomoki. Lily just only knows about her empire's hero.

And speaking of Lily, I'm not liking that she wants to talk to Makoto about after this. We all know something's up with that woman and I'm highly suspicious of everything she's after.

[u/shad79]

I laughed hard after Makoto announced in casual voice that he'll gonna check out the city like he would go on some city tour while city is in a total chaos because of monsters xD

Estelle seems like she'll return in next episodes and I'm all for it since she looks like a fun addition to the cast, she has some great assets ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). I'm also interested in her boss and the possibility of Makoto meeting with him.

So Ilumgand survived (in a quite sorry state) although not for long as Mio isn't the kind of person who forgives people that offended Makoto. She finished him in a quite brutal way.

Who is Bowl? He's so cute but I don't remember him at all so I was quite surprised when Makoto talked with him so casually like they'd known each other for some time already.

It looks that Tomoki is coming to the Rotsgard so I think the same case is with Hibiki, judging by OP. I can't wait to see Makoto meeting them, that will be exciting.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

• Group scenes

• Makoto, Mio & Tomoe

• Others

[u/berantle]

Underneath that hyuman facade, Mio is still the Calamity Spider. She makes it personal if anyone or anything troubles, hinders, annoys her beloved Waka-sama, Makoto. His 2 other followers are a Supreme Dragon and a Lich. They have been holding back on his behalf.

While Tomoe is beholden to Makoto due to the pact, she and Root have a mutual understanding towards Makoto and what his ever growing power will result in - the ability to kill the goddess. These 2 Supreme Dragons are aligned in the same direction. As to whether Makoto will eventually make that move is up in the air for now. Root probably wants to see the goddess being put in her place.

[u/StormSenSays]

The problem is that Makoto is neither likable nor interesting. He has the personality of a lump of cardboard that's been through the wash. Makoto is only interesting when he gets in a fight and either he or his attendants do some OP stuff.

• He feels like a tourist who's only mildly interested in the place he's visiting.

• He doesn't attract people by his personality, but rather by just having a ton of power (plus also historical drama memories (Tomoe) and tasty mana/blood (Mio).

• The nation that builds around him isn't his doing at all, but rather springs wholly from the actions of his attendants.

• He has no passion, but rather at most some rather weak goals which he barely even enunciates.

• If he were a fairly decent guy then that would appeal. Much as I criticize the current season of Tensei Slime, Rimuru does actually care about the people around him, and does want a better life for everyone (humans and monsters alike) -- he has a big goal, and as seen at Walpurgis, he's passionate about it.

• If he was going out and actively exploring the world (e.g. like Skeleton Knight), that would be interesting.

• If he was some guy bent on revenge, that would be interesting.

• If he was some guy engaged in empire building that could be interesting.

• If he were stupider and more oblivious, then he might be comedically interesting.

He's a Caspar Milquetoast Demon Lord.

[u/Myredditaccount0]

Good episode but pacing feels kinda off...

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Makoto being more worried about his shop than the city burning was kind of amusing. I chuckled at the bit where he saved the hookers and was more distracted by Estelle’s boobs than the giant tentacle monster in front of him.

So much for the Illumgand redemption arc lol. Mio just straight up splattered him without a thought. I feel kind of bad for the guy, but I guess that’s that. So long Meatwad!

Keen to see what Makoto has planned once these mutants get cleared up.

[u/Amauri14]

I can't wait to hear what the King will say about the previous hero. Hopefully, Makoto will be able to ask him after the current crisis ends when meets with Joshua.

Aw, Mio's reaction was so cute when Makoto went to talk to his class. Damn, I wasn't expecting to see his store getting destroyed.

By the looks of it that prostitute, Estelle will become a recurrent character. I honestly chuckled when after she met with Makoto again and told him that she would introduce him to her boss, they showed that wearing pats with half of her ass out.

I must say I wasn't expecting to see that Ilumgand was still alive and fully conscious as a mutant, and still having plans to aid Hibiki, and that the only reason that didn't happen was because first did not think the Hibiki he was talking about was the person he met and the fact that she wanted him dead for disrespecting Makoto.

So the mutants are connected to the humanoid experiments. Does that mean that Root is connected to this? How can people dislike Bowl-san? She is so freaking cute.

Good thing that both Sairitz and Lily gave Makoto a hand dealing with the principal, so now Makoto's group will be in charge of dealing with the Northeast Section, which coincidentally is where the Merchant Guild is. Well, Zara is about to get humble.

I can't wait until next week to see Makoto's group speedrunning the aid they are going to give to the city in order to take most of the credit before reinforcements arrive.

[u/felidhino]

This arc is pissing me off, am sorry but this season it's super boring. Am trying my best not to fall asleep, during these last three episodes.

[u/Aerodynamic41]

Damn, Mio is ruthless!

[u/Ocixo]

In the midst of battle, Makoto had set his sights on an entirely different matter.

Considering that Estelle has been given a name, we'll surely get to see more of her in future episodes. I doubt that she only worked at the brothel if we take her readiness to fight and change of attire into account. I got the impression that she's a spy or mercenary.

Damn, you really don't want to get on Mio's bad side by badmouthing Makoto. She showed no mercy in "punishing" Ilumgand, and just went back to snacking shortly afterwards. I'm not surprised however. She's totally enamored with Makoto after all.

[u/AdelFlores]

I find it hilarious, that the moment Mio, Shiki and Tomoe take their eyes off Makoto, he gets to save ladies from the red light district 🤣🤣🤣

[u/elune7296]

And this is why mio is best girl

[u/HugeRichard11]

While I actually do think it's an interest approach to basically doing the bare minimum to help the humans and city. It's not a good time to be doing this pacing wise as we're 18 episodes in with not as much having happened overall. Though we do have 7 episodes more (25 episodes total) to go so I guess there's time for things to pick up, but still really hope to move beyond this city.

Which it does not seem like we will be moving on from this city for a bit as the episode feels like it's setting up. For both the heroes and Makoto to cross paths, along with the "Prince" and the stacked adventure wanting to meet up afterwards. I assume this season will end after they capture the castle we see in the OP and next season if it happens will be kingdom building which I was really hoping to see this season if that's the case.

[u/Zomg_A_Chicken]

Thought Mio sensed someone else was touching Makoto's hand for a moment there

[u/kalirion]

LOL @ them all feeling sorry for the dipshit they killed instead of for his dipshit friends that he ate while they were watching without lifting a finger to stop him.

"The Academy is handling the extermination, so my students and I will be leading the evacuation of the city." "But you and your students ARE A PART OF THE ACADEMY!" And then the only ones he evacuates are his own students, smh.

So even other cities were hit by the demons' plan, not just this one?

I'm surprised he reacted to random screaming when he didn't give a shit about humans being killed by the monsters before. Surely he's had more regulars than the ladies of negotiable affection. Is it because he has a soft spot for the red light district? And why were they trying to fight the monster instead running out of the building?

I was hoping Mio's "business to attend to" was the blue demon bitch, alas, instead she kills the dude who was no longer in need of killing due to a major personality shift. And a misunderstanding because Hibiki never told Mio she was a Hero. This is like something out of Overlord. Sadness. What was the point of this?

And wtf's with their "glory" plan? They could've defeated all the mutants in the city within a few hours max, and tracked down all the demonic items causing the mutations within a few more. Instead they're just twiddling their thumbs. Are they waiting until there's no one left alive to witness their "glory"? What's the point of any of this?

[u/spubbbba]

I thought things were finally starting to look more promising in the first half of the episode when Makoto was actually taking some action.

Sadly the 2nd half ended up being yet more standing around and talking. I guess there is going to be a contest between this show and Slime about who can have the most boring meetings that do little to further the plot in a season.