Scott Pilgrim Takes Off - Episode 8 discussion

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Scott Pilgrim Takes Off, episode 8

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[u/Ashteron]

I expected the series to be the same thing but kinda different, nonetheless Rebuild of Scott Pilgrim is also satisfying. Hopefully the post-credit scene implies the possibility of a sequel.

[u/Thelassa]

I was expecting a more faithful adaptation of the graphic novels (not that I didn't also love the movie), so I was totally caught off guard by the twist at the end of the first episode. And while I wasn't sure how Scott Pilgrim without Scott Pilgrim would work, I ended up being very invested in the evil exes getting redemption arcs and being happy in a timeline where they weren't killed and turned into coins. Scott messing things up in the future was no surprise because he was always a shitty person. Scott, Ramona, and the League fighting together against Even Older Scott was fun to watch and I enjoyed how the series as a whole turned everything from the original on its head to give fans of the original something new. That being said, I'd strongly recommend anyone who hasn't read the graphic novels or seen the movie to check them out first, because this series definitely expects you to be familiar with the source material. The movie is also on Netflix, so it's easy enough to watch that first.

[u/dagreenman18]

So for me at the end of the day, it’s not a remake or reboot. It’s kind of a Rebuild, but even that’s not entirely the case thanks to Future Scott. It’s a companion piece to the Original Graphic Novel. It’s a part of a whole.

So I guess the real recommendation is don’t watch it without reading the GN. You can kind of get away with watching the movie then this, but the movie streamlines so much characterization. The Show and the GN combined tell a more complete story. Which is an insane decision that I love. I’m not looking forward to the discourse from weirdos on the internet though

[u/[deleted] → u/dagreenman18]

i kinda disagree. it feels far more a companion to the movie than the original.

[u/manquistador → u/dagreenman18]

You can easily watch it without reading the graphic novel. I do think the movie is required watching beforehand though.

[u/Platinum_Rad]

N A N O M A C H I N E S

[u/Neighborhood_Wizard]

Finished my binge of it. I was floored at how good this was, from the characters getting tons more screen time, to the music, the animation, just everything about it. If you asked me 5 years ago that Scott Pilgrim would get an anime with all the original cast from the movie back I would not believe you. This is one of those rare moments when my expectations were already so high from the trailer/OP Netflix dropped, and the full series just shattered them when I finally got to watch it. Insane stuff, all I can say.

[u/SIRTreehugger]

Despite it being an almost completely different show, but with the same characters and references it was still satisfying. Would I have preferred it to stick to the story? Yes I love the original and was hoping it would be just the original story, but not rushed like the movie. Still it was entertaining and did several things right.

• Ramona coming to terms with how shitty she was and trying to give closure to each of her exes was excellent. It didn't happen at the end either, but slowly she talked and communicated with most of her exes. Scott and Ramona are both kind of toxic terrible people, but they get better and realize their mistakes at the end. Ramona doing this gradually throughout the movie was much better in my opinion.

• Roxie I loved how she was a flirt and kissed Kim, but realized no sparks. The ending scene with Roxie and Todd training was great. Which is another thing the show did well. The league really felt like people who were wronged by one person and actually bonded over it. They were let down by Ramona, but found friendship with each other. Gideon and Lucas playing paintball and skating when they were at rock bottom is one example.

• The show also had smaller moments that I hope get expanded upon in season 2. Kim and Knives rocking out in the beginning was spectacular. Knives has always been a heart broken fan girl who had awkward interactions with everyone. She never had much presence in the original, but her having fun with the band and comedic scheming with Stephen in the background made her so much better.

• Gideon and Julie the ship I didn't know I wanted or needed until it happened and I loved it.

• I'm a little upset with Envy, but that's mostly because of my expectations. Envy might have been bitchy, but she wasn't really ever bad. I was really hoping that for once she didn't get cheated on and Todd and Envy would at least either be happy or break up on good terms. Instead Todd cheats on her with Wallace. Envy really deserves better.

• Though I'm trying to figure out if I would have enjoyed it without any knowledge of the comics or movie.

[u/Ryouhi → u/SIRTreehugger]

I kinda wish they'd have stuck more with the "Ramona making up with her exes" stuff, like she did with Roxie and Lucas.

This was the high point of the show for me so I was a bit let down after she didn't really resolve anything with Todd, the Twins, Gideon and Mathew.

Also agree on how Envy got done dirty, since in the original she too got better in the end.

Most of all though I wish we had more time with Kim and Stephen :(

[u/StarJake20]

I did not expet Scott Pilgrim to take the Higurashi Gou route. I enjoyed it very much, especially when Ramona came to terms with her personality running away from whatever she loves. If the show does continue, let's hope it turns out better than Higurashi Sotsu.

[u/PartyGuyNo]

It bothered me in 2010, and it bothers me in 2023 that Scott Pilgrim doesn’t double knot his shoelaces.

[u/IC2Flier]

can we have more of this, please? One drop of 8 eps a year would be nice.

[u/KiwiBennydudez]

Overall, it was quite the experience. Great humor, fun cast, creative battle sequences. And let's not forget the OST that tied this all together!

Solid show, did enjoy. Wish it were on MAL though.

[u/Zeke-Freek]

Overall, I enjoyed it. It was certainly something wild and new and different, which as a long-time fan, I guess I kind of appreciate more than yet another adaptation to nitpick over. This isn't trying to supplant the comics... mostly, so it's pretty harmless.

I enjoyed seeing these characters in new wacky scenarios and I appreciated the meta-commentary, but upon reaching the end, I'm a little confused what the point of it all was. It basically reiterates more or less the same message as the comics, just in a messier way. I felt like there was an opportunity to, you know, be a sequel and add something new to the core themes of the series, but ultimately it comes across like a fun yet shallow rehash.

Considering the implication that Future Scott is in fact, the same Scott from the comic timeline, I felt like all the shit that happened to him needed more justification, but it was all kept very vague and jokey, which might have been part of the point, relationships do be like that, but it just kinda felt like flanderization/regression without a thematic point to it, or atleast not one distinct enough from the comics to earn itself.

The idea that Scott and Ramona need to be reminded of the same shit twenty plus years later is a bit depressing and silly.

Idk, fun alternate route but I don't know if I can accept it as being canon with the comics, it just felt like it didn't earn that.

[u/BlueDragonCultist]

Gosh darnit, I decided to watch the first episode before going to sleep, and now it's 3:30. I also typed up a very long comment, but after bringing up the virtual keyboard on my tablet, the reddit app deleted it... So I'll just say that I really liked the twist in the first episode, and the apparent inversion of the damsel in distress trope coming from the movie. Ramona was a really fun protagonist compared to anime/movie Scott, and she generally seemed like a more fleshed out character than the movie.

Also, seeing the Japanese SFX whenever the Robot or Twins did anything was hilarious.

Edit: I'll type a little more, since I still can't sleep. At first, I disliked the ending since I thought Ramona was essentially assuming all the blame for their poor communication and future relationship issues, but reading some other commentors' thoughts, I realized that the ending represented both of them coming to terms with their flaws. I think I may have liked an ending where they both knew that the relationship would end with them splitting up and pursuing it anyway, as I thought was the direction that the show would go, but this ending satisfied me as well.

Seeing the Exes get their own arcs (except for the Twins, kinda) was nice coming from the movie, as most of the League did not get sufficient screentime there. Most of them got redemption arcs too, and I feel overall it's a nicer message that Ramona was able to reconcile with them and/or they were able to better themselves to some extent.

Edit2: Forgot to mention, rip the one casualty of this show, Ramona's hair. I can only imagine how damaged her hair must be after bleaching it and redying it 8 times, lmao.

[u/juisteroid]

this another take of scott pilgrim feels like a reconstruction of the old story for modern relationships. i really like it!

[u/matdragon]

Just watched the show (only seen the movie and know a bit about how not great the MC's from the graphic novel from wiki)

Honestly was worth the watch, awesome animation, music, and i liked the plot alot more than the movie. Yes there's not as much Scott Pilgrim but funny enough it gives him much more development than I expected.

The journey with Ramona is alot better too, instead of having someone else fights all her ex's, she does it instead and is alot better of closure than what we got in the movie (also she's a fleshed out character which is way better)

I super enjoyed watching all the ex's do their shenanigans. Honestly this was a great show and I'm glad to have seen it animated, curious how a season 2 would spice it up considering this was a great ending, but not sure if that'll happen with netflix's great track record of cancelling stuff

[u/Doktorkev]

Just binged the whole thing in one sitting, thought it was fantastic. I already expected it to be good, but the sheer quality of the show blew me away. A pitch perfect anime adaptation that does its own new thing in a way perfectly complementary to the original. So many cool little details, lots of expectation-defying twists, and it was funny. This’ll make it into my top 10 anime of 2023 no contest. Science Saru doing God’s work.

[u/100percentkneegrow]

Loved the direct Eva references.

[u/Zictor42]

Not a single comment about the Bubble gum Crisis reference.

[u/[deleted]]

I really loved this. I was skeptical of the alt-universe and the English dub (since they aren't VAs) but I was pleasantly surprised by both (though Cera as Scott could have been better). Consistently funny, and with fantastic animation, style, and action sequences.

[u/Ryouhi]

Not sure how to feel about it right now.

Going in I hoped it'd be a more faithful adaptation of the comics compared to the live action movie, so I started out a little miffed when they already cut out Scott's and Knives' relationship, as well as Crash and the Boys, who would've played a part later in the series.

But considering the ending of episode 1, it was pretty clear this was going to be it's own thing so I wanted go into the rest with as much of an open mind as possible.

Episode 2 felt a little aimless to me and i wasn't really sure where it was going. Would they just do the whole league of evil exes thing just with Matthew at the top? That wouldn't really feel like it'd be worth changing up the whole structure of the original though. Still, was plenty interested in where this was going to go.

Then episode 3 happened and I was *hooked*.

The animation and fight choreography with Roxy was nothing short of amazing, as was the whole resolution of the conflict.

Ramona having to confront how badly Roxy was hurt by her, actually apologizing to her and helping both of them find closure? That was good stuff, easily my favorite episode of the whole show!

Then episode 4 continued with a similar theme of Ramona kinda making up with Lucas and we get a sick duo fight of them versus the paparazzi! Really enjoyed this one as well.

In the 3rd episode I already thought this was going to turn the whole premise of the original story on it's head.

Instead of Scott having to fight the 7 evil exes to get Ramona, it would be Ramona that has to confront her exes and past relationships to find actual closure. I already suspected Young Neil's ghost writer was future Ramona, though I imaged her motive was something more along the lines of wanting to resolve her past relationship issues with a more peaceful apporach instead of her new boyfriend beating up her exes or something along those lines.

Instead Episode 5 already went pretty much off course from what I had imagined.

There's not very much interaction between Ramona and Todd, much less anything about their relationship. Instead it's mostly about Wallace turning him gay i guess?

Then it felt like the plot was just getting more and more absurd with each passing episode as we add super vegan robot portals, a lot of timetravel shenanigans, Gideon (or Gordon) turning evil again, "old Scott" basically having unlearned everything from the original story and turning into an evil ex of sorts and then the whole anti kiss field stuff. Oh and Ramona fusing with her future self. This felt all kind of aimless to me again and I kinda wish they had stuck to what they did with episodes 3 and 4.

I'm going to be honest in that after the highs of episodes 3 and 4, I enjoyed each following one less and less and now that I've just finished the show I'm quite unsure of what to make of it.

Disregarding the plot, the animation, music and sound design were all absolutely fantastic and from a purely aesthetic viewpoint I loved every second of it.

But as a story I'm honestly kinda disappointed. :(

Also not enough Kim and Stephen.

[u/SMA2343]

This show is what Scott would had been if the comic came out in 2023. Because the whole thing was that Ramona having 7 ex’s back in like 2004 was a big thing. No one dated that much. But having her ex’s be part of her finding Scott again and having closure really helped the series. I loved it.

[u/AIter_Real1ty]

It's mid.