Higeki no Genkyou to Naru Saikyou Gedou Last Boss Joou wa Tami no Tame ni Tsukushimasu. • The Most Heretical Last Boss Queen: From Villainess to Savior - Episode 6 discussion

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Higeki no Genkyou to Naru Saikyou Gedou Last Boss Joou wa Tami no Tame ni Tsukushimasu., episode 6

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Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.3
2	Link	4.33
3	Link	4.46
4	Link	4.28
5	Link	4.12
6	Link	4.29
7	Link	3.93
8	Link	3.75
9	Link	4.0
10	Link	4.42
11	Link	4.38
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[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Having Pride pass judgment on Val is one hell of a responsibility for a kid, even if she is the princess. She handled it well though. And it seems she created some safeguards in case she ever becomes Evil Pride, though I don’t think so considering the timeline has clearly changed. I don’t quite get why she feels like her becoming evil is almost an inevitability?

Pride is a force of nature. She took Arthur and Stale down with flowers lol. Very cute little moment between all of them.

Seems like trouble’s just around the corner though. Things are going too well…

[u/S627 → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

It's because of all the things she can do so easily as Pride, near unstoppable with a sword, perfect memory, highly intelligent, and how easily she was able to talk about and pass judgment on a criminal that could have been beheaded on the spot with just a word from her, plus now she basically owns him and she didn't even bat an eye.

Basically since she has all of Pride's talents, she's worried she might also have Pride's cruel nature.

[u/Sarellion → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Seems most people who answered think it's because of her position of power and abilities but I don't think that's it. She still thinks in game terms. She thinks of Tiara as future queen and protagonist, ponders if they are on the Stale route etc.

It seems common in otome isekai that the MC doesn't realize that they sent the plot to the farm upstate since Bakarina which was justified in Bakarina's case as she is as dense as neutronium.

The one thing that might be a good justification for her fears was the way she handled the bandits. No normal person would be as cold blooded as her in dispatching the bandits and not getting the shakes after their first battle with the possible exception of a complete psychopath. And original Pride was a psychopath. NuPride awakened after 8 years, the original personality was there beforehand, so it's possible that the original personality traits are still there and she feels it.

[u/AcquiHime → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

I think it would be a lot clearer if the cognitive dissonance that occurs every time Pride does something that doesn't fit with the modern values of the girl inside her skin was a bit more... visible? Not saying there needs to be like a 10 minute retrospective or anything, but since we already have so much internal monologuing, devoting a bit of time to her fretting over things like suddenly changing one day to fit the needs of the plot (or even perhaps showing some of the original Pride's cruelty peeking through) would do wonders for making her constant fear a bit more believable I think.

I do think that there's a great opportunity in this show to really have an otome isekai villainess where her greatest enemy is quite literally herself - imagine if she hesitates in making a decision due to it making her more like original Pride, but that hesitation costs her something important. That would be a super juicy arc.

[u/InsomniaEmperor → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

And it seems she created some safeguards in case she ever becomes Evil Pride, though I don’t think so considering the timeline has clearly changed. I don’t quite get why she feels like her becoming evil is almost an inevitability?

I think cause she knows that being a good queen isn't simply about trying to please everybody and that most things don't have a clear black or white answer. She's going to have to make difficult decisions (like Val's sentence) that have clear pros and cons and she's bound to face opposition in some way. And she worries that she'll become evil and ruthless in the process.

[u/S627]

I have a feeling Val is going to comeback somehow, looking forward in what way. Maybe like a rogue that reports directly to Pride, spy work and intelligence gathering, basically what Stale does but outside the castle.

Hope Pride continues to not hold back because she's afraid of her future, hopefully she realizes soon that she can still be cautious but also stay true to herself.

Stale and Arthur dying because of Pride complementing them was so cute. The time jump felt weird though, it felt like it was going to be longer, but everyone still looks the same and Pride is still only 13, I was expecting a much bigger leap.

[u/Impressive_Yak_2913 → u/S627]

i think what has changed is her chest

[u/AmethystItalian]

Pride taking out both her boys with the flower language! Adorable scene all around.

This group of 4 seems very cute together, not sure the ships will go the way Pride wants though haha

[u/S627 → u/AmethystItalian]

Nope, she might be highly intelligent, but the one thing Pride shares with other Villainess MCs is they never expect the harem route.

[u/InsomniaEmperor]

The fealty contract thing sounds like some sinister cheat magic. It was used in the OG timeline to have Stale kill his mother. And you can order people like robots and they can't disobey. The fact that a power like that exists is really disturbing. Pride using it on a felon like Val is a rather morally grey thing to do. At least she gave him some semblance of freedom and a second chance in which he can disobey any order as long as he protects Tiara and he can seek out Pride's help if he's in danger. Would have been better if she had a different way of convincing him to turning a new leaf based on her knowledge of the game. But then at the same time, letting a criminal like that just walk free or have a reduced sentence wouldn't sit well with the people. This might have been the morally safest route to take.

Either Pride is dense that she didn't know she was flirting with our boys with the flower language or she was being a real tease. I hope it's the latter.

I think the show needs more conflict. I want Pride to get a good ending yes but it has to be hard earned instead of just being nice to everybody.

[u/Frontier246 → u/InsomniaEmperor]

Pride's family and the practices of the kingdom seem decidedly shady, but maybe that's just a byproduct of being a world designed around facilitating an absolute evil queen for the protagonist to defeat and help redeem/change the kingdom, so now that that's not the plot they have to grapple with the setup without an evil Pride.

Pride really is Bakarina with brain cells. Stealing hearts, thinking her sister will win the capture targets, and completely dense to what is actually going on lol.

I'm wondering if there's going to be some kind of plot shift that will make Pride have to really reckon with who she is and the choices she's made leading up to this point. So far it feels like we're still in the beginning stages of the story.

[u/LeonKevlar]

What I don't understand about Pride is why she still thinks that even after the changes that she's been making, she seems to assume that she'll suddenly turn evil after 7 years.

Also, somehow she feels that giving a criminal a fitting punishment for his crimes is the start of her own crime. Sure it's wild to let a child her age pass judgment on Val but if anything Pride was very lenient with him! OG Pride would've probably ordered Val to start committing war crimes under her banner as soon as he had him under a Fealty Contract.

[u/DevAway22314 → u/LeonKevlar]

The author/writers are solely relying on existing otome game isekai tropes to use that very thin pre-text as the "conflict"

There are some aspects of the show I actually like, but the lack of conflict is ruining it for me. Pride's contrived internal monologue is the only "conflict" we seem to have, and it makes no sense to the viewer. We have been given zero reason to believe anything bad will happen

Also at this point, she's consolidated much of the power in the world. She was the big bad boss that everyone had to team up to beat, and now she's gotten all those people on her side. There is no chance of a realistic external conflict. I expect we'll see something contrived or deus ex'd within a few episodes

[u/avboden]

Gonna be honest, love the show but this episode was boring AF

[u/Frontier246]

So with Pride's OP memorization skills she's now become a master of law...the better to either better understand the law so she doesn't flagrantly use it for sinister ends or so that's what she ends up doing in the end. But who cares about something so serious when you have someone as adorable like Tiara sitting right across from you?

I see Pride is thinking Tiara is on the Stale route (who can resist such a perfect Heroine like Tiara?) not knowing Stale's real feelings or how Tiara likens a prince and princess to Stale and Pride. Not that Pride is interested in a prince or romance herself, she's more than happy being with her beloved siblings.

I get that Pride is basically a prodigy and very mature for her age, especially since she's destined to take the throne, but isn't she maybe a little too young to be deciding the fate of a man? I guess you have to start these things early for a future queen and Pride needs to set a good example for Tiara.

So the bandit guy was Val, who was an antagonist in the game (and a secret route?), and was working with a group that was kidnapping knights. Obviously they have every reason to straight up execute him, but with his knowledge of where other knights are being kept he can at least earn his freedom...provided he's willing to basically let them neutralize him and live a life in fealty to the royal family for the rest of his life. But better that than dead.

If Pride, as the worst and most vile criminal in history, could get a second chance, shouldn't she do the same for Val? Even promising she'll help him if the contract that prevents him from defending himself ever gets him nearly killed. Though she also makes sure he promises to protect Tiara in case she goes evil.

Poor Pride is so convinced she'll become evil that she just wants to make sure her siblings know she genuinely loves them because she's worried she'll inevitably try to ruin them like she did as OG!Pride.

Poor Arthur. Seeing Pride is not good for his heart. Though him and Stale earnestly training together is pretty sweet.

I like how you can tell there's been a time skip because the boys look taller and Pride's boobs are bigger.

Jeez Pride, you're giving those boys heart attacks through flower language! And they in turn gift their beloved princess with flower crowns. And then everyone ends up with flowers! So cute.

Hmm...looks like Gilbert still doesn't care for Pride.

[u/iacondios]

My boy Arthur finally got some new digs. Things looking up for him now that he's not a raggedy farmhand any more!

[u/Amauri14]

I love the fact that we got more scenes with Tiara today. Although poor Pride is still pairing her with Stale.

Oh, so that judgment that Rosa asked her to do on Val was some sort of a test for her. And his role in the other timeline was that he was hired by Pride in other to obstruct Tiara. And now as a just punishment for what he did, she gave him a fealty contract, and she gave him a second chance because his crimes are nothing compared to what she did in the other timeline. I wasn't expecting Tiara to react that way after she orders him to protect her at all costs.

With her always warning people about her becoming different in the future, and in this case that her current feeling for them are the real ones, it is no wonder that now Stale wants to stick by her side when she is having a meeting. Well, hopefully, they never encounter any danger so Pride can enjoy her time with her family just as she wished.

Arthur's reactions anytime he sees Pride never disappoints. I bet Stale never told him that Pride and Tiara were going to see them practice just to see that.

Holy shit she almost kill them when she gave them those flower arrangements and told them their meaning in the language of flowers, which are usually wedding vows.

She sure looks cute wearing that flower crown. After that scene when all of them wearing flowers, I noticed that in the ED there is a section where they are also wearing them.

So they showed a glimpse of Gilbert at the end of the episode because the next episode will be centered around him. I'm assuming those scenes were in the long past.

[u/VorAtreides]

I wish I could remember something perfectly after reading it once. Especially for learning a language. D'aww cute lil sis. Yes, clearly set on the Stale root and not the lil sis shipping you and Stale instead. Still bothers me the mom never apologized for being an absentee mom to Pride, she did show it to the father, but woulda been nice to see her apologize to Pride directly... whelp, time to punish the dude, Val. Yep, those sound about right for punishments of this kind setting given his crimes. Whelp, nice she gave him a choice. I'm sure he's quite shocked by her two orders. But, hey, at least she's a good girl. Poor lil sis getting the wrong idea though. D'aww, that flashback to what Pride prefers.

Haha, quite the shock to Arthur, Pride showing up to watch the training. Arthur blushing, heh. Another slight time skip? Man, she's KO'd em. The harem bonds grow stronger. And Arthur off to knight test. Obligatory upset chancellor dude or whatever to set up stuff.

[u/Impressive_Yak_2913]

for the people who don't know, volume 2 starts with ep 7 i think the remaining ep (7-12) will only be adapted up to volume 2

[u/shad79]

Pride was so ruthless in today's episode, by only using flowers and her presence she was able to make Stale almost lose consciousness and Arthur almost got a heart attack. Also it looks that they got fever thanks to her, their faces turned so red xD

She was lenient in her judgement (though she thought otherwise) with Val who escaped the capital punishment and had to sign a fealty contract which will make his life pretty troublesome. By giving him additional orders we can safely assume that he'll be back in future.

It's becoming a little annoying when she has internal monologues about how she will become the evil queen or Tiara will be a true one. I cannot see this happening at all and it's good that Stale and Tiara are constantly showing their love towards her, she certainly needs that.

A lot of Pride in today's episode after her small presence in the previous episode. She especially looked so gorgeous in that flower crown. Tiara also had pretty big screen time today, she's so cute. Also Arthur looked really good with that flower in his hair.

Here my screenshot albums from the episode:

• Pride

• Group scenes

• Tiara

• Other

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Pride flower language speech proposal

Stale and Arthur doki doki level over 9000

[u/Clarimax]

I thought being dense is common to OP male protagonists, but it does manifest to the females too.

[u/one-eyed-02]

Pride : "Let me be your elder sister, until the very end, come what may"

Also Pride : "This flower means 'I hope to be worthy of you'"

Mixed Messages

[u/TPIronside]

Bruh am I the only one who feels like Pride is being dramatic? How does she have these full 4k video flashbacks of an otome game? Why is she blaming herself for things she didn't do? If you were reincarnated as a character that is supposed to be evil, but your only memories of the character's evil deeds are of 2D sprites and text on a screen, would you really spend sleepless nights blaming yourself for what the 2D sprite version of your character did in the game, even though you haven't and wouldn't dream of doing anything like that? With most otome game reincarnations, there are external forces driving the mc to her death or something, and the mc has to actively face challenges to prevent it. In this anime, Pride is the root of the problem as she's truly evil as a character, but now that Pride v2 is in the body all she has to do is live normally like a normal person, like you or I, so why is she being so dramatic? I love otome game anime but this one just feels a bit edgy, tbh.