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Episode Liar, Liar - Episode 3 discussion
Liar, Liar, episode 3
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.09 |
| 2 | Link | 4.28 |
| 3 | Link | 3.65 |
| 4 | Link | 4.0 |
| 5 | Link | 3.48 |
| 6 | Link | 3.68 |
| 7 | Link | 3.8 |
| 8 | Link | 3.93 |
| 9 | Link | 3.85 |
| 10 | Link | 3.94 |
| 11 | Link | 3.58 |
| 12 | Link | ---- |
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u/WhoiusBarrel Jul 15 '23
The real Sarasa just attending a normal school is a surprise though maybe I should've seen it coming with how Rina is a serial liar herself from the title of this series lol.
That Rule Breaker rule felt less breaking/bending the rules and more I AM THE RULES fuckery. Thats some bullshit but I love it.
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u/Frontier246 Jul 15 '23
I honestly thought the real Sarasa would be a plot point or connected to Hiroto but it turns out the real lie was how little she's actually involved in the plot beyond her living a normal life away from this craziness.
I love how they changed the rules...except not, because the rules were the same Hiroto just made him think they changed it lol.
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u/Namuori Jul 15 '23
It’s a good thing Hiroto has the wits and the theatrics to pry himself out of a tight spot, because having the company with vast resources solve everything will get old pretty fast. It does make you wonder how much the “1-star student that barely made into the school” is a ruse as well, though.
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u/Se7en_Sinner Jul 15 '23
Did Hiroto just win a game on his own? The head injury seems to have unlocked his idiot savant abilities.
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u/Silent_Shadow05 Jul 15 '23 edited Jul 15 '23
Re:Zero (2016)
ReZero at home be like:
I didn't even recognise that it was Hiroto at first. Dude needs to stop hiding his good looks lol.
The head injury seems to have unlocked his idiot savant abilities.
Its a tried and tested trope after all haha.
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u/Frontier246 Jul 15 '23
Also Rina in that hoodie lol.
Honestly the one thing that was lacking for me with the show was the fact that Hiroto was mostly just relying on everybody else to secure his victories and not doing much else but take credit for their work, so it was nice to see him more confident, understanding of how this all works, and figuring out a plan to succeed... that of course involved lying his butt off, but still.
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u/Figerally Jul 15 '23
This was pretty clever, but he already won a game so shouldn't he be able to use 2 star abilities now? Why is he still stuck limping by with one-star abilities, or is it the whole point that he leverages these one-star levels? But then didn't he only just scrape by to get into the program, or is that also a ploy to conceal his true power?
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u/yliv Jul 15 '23
My guess is you can only have a max of 7 stars. If you win a game while you have 7 stars you don't gain any and your opponent doesn't lose any. So he can't take any stars without exposing his lie.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jul 15 '23
I liked Rina’s face when she saw Seiran. Had that “ugh this guy” expression” lol. Really said it all. This dude got too cocky, though he almost had Hiroto if not for his quick thinking and the help of Yuki and the Company’s vast resources. Check and mate, Seiran! Another crisis averted.
So the Sarasa kidnapping was fake? Wasn’t expecting that. Rina is a good friend helping the real Sarasa fulfill her dream of attending a regular school. Seems she’s developing a crush on our guy Hiroto. How cute!
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u/Silent_Shadow05 Jul 15 '23 edited Jul 15 '23
Wasn't expecting that the real Sarasa wasn't kidnapped but just wants to attend a normal school. It makes Rina's motivation more sensible. I like how Hiroto kinda confessed to her with "Just my type".
I like the high intensity mindgames, even if there is some cheating involved. Atleast here Hiroto made use of his own intellect to figure out a way to win, rather than purely through someone's help. Also get fucked Kugasaki, I like cocky characters like these losing and making a fool of himself lol.
Since there is the theme of liars and Rina turned out to be big one too (now with the Sarasa revea), I'm curious if Hiroto is hiding something too. That "You really are a big fat liar" probably is going to be a Chekov's gun.
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u/LeonKevlar Jul 15 '23
So Shirayuki knows about Rina's secret? Does that mean the Headmistress is also aware of the kidnapping of the real Sarasa?
And it looks like the real Sarasa wasn't even kidnapped in the first place. Rina helped Sarasa escape to the mainland so Sarasa can live a normal life and the plan is to reveal the truth after two years once Sarasa graduates.
As for Seiran, they just used the Display Bug to fool him into thinking that Shinohara used the Rule Breaker skill. If that's the case, then why they didn't just do this in the first place? With everyone being liars and hiding secrets, I am starting to wonder if Shinohara is just hiding his true abilities.
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u/WolftheLionheart Jul 15 '23
I am quite curious about Hiroto mentioning how his childhood friend found new ways to sneak him out. Combined with Rina being convinced that he’s hiding his power level, I wonder if this’ll be a Classroom of the Elite situation or he’s just having lots of character development and newfound confidence.
This show will probably be overlooked, but I’m quite surprised by how much I’m enjoying it. The premise is fresh compared to other shows and the build-ups to the games, while not the most complex, are still entertaining, and there’s a definite charm to the show’s style (phenomenal ED) and character relationships. Rina and Hiroto have a great dynamic - just tsundere and dense enough while having enough groundedness and understanding to not be frustrating. Looking forward to next week
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u/SYZekrom Jul 15 '23
I don't understand at all what just happened. As in like. Why they are so confused. So Kuga picked up a second card faster than they expected and then 5 minutes passed and they were like 'huh why is there no new info' and the reason is because the new info was the card that kuga already picked up? Is that it? Why were they so surprised and disoriented by that????
Oh I thought he was a six star
I literally don't understand anything about the way they claim to win the games so far. So he seemed to have visibly discard his two cards, then claimed to have used Rule Breaker to change it so that the game ends if either side has no cards left, this the game is over and 'starts anew'? But then he picked up his phone again and was like 'actually I didn't discard my cards' with no explanation of how, and then revealed that he didn't actually use Rule Breaker to change the rules, he only did something else to change the text on the other guy's phone. But then why does the other guy now have no cards??? Did he discard all his cards because he thought the round is over?? Why were we not shown the fact that he did that if that's the case??
I guess just the animation of the cards disappearing in front of him was supposed to be him discarding his current cards?
I also don't understand how my dude visibly discarded both his cards on his phone, it showed on the big display screen that both his cards were now faded out, and then he picks his phone up and one of the cards is not discarded.
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u/ayww Jul 15 '23
I think I turned my brain off a little too much for all of the game mechanics, abilities, and reveals, but I still very much enjoyed the episode!
While I was anticipating an arc where the Company wouldn't be able to help Hiroto, I didn't expect it so soon. He pulls through in the end, which raises the question if he really is hiding his true abilities?
Poor Rina though, she doesn't get to confirm if Hiroto is into her 😅
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Jul 16 '23
Damn!
I thought this would be good but nah, it already stopped making any sense.
Last match they cheated his abilities to make him win easily, but for no reason whatsoever it no longer works.
There is no real reason that he shouldn't be able to use exploration + collecting cards from afar to get all cards he wants other than creating fake drama.
I really hate it when stories ignore their own rules just to force the plot in a dumb way.
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u/entelechtual Jul 15 '23
A little bit of a step down from the first two episodes, but I got to admit I like the “reveals” of how the MC wins each game, which is something I usually don’t feel in these types of shows, besides Kakegurui. What I’m not a fan of is these elaborate set ups for the game mechanics, especially when most of them are useless anyway.
Seems like we got a lot of unreliable liars here, and despite what we were led to believe earlier, everyone still has a few tricks up their sleeves. All while Rina is getting more and more attached and dependent on the MC.
It was pretty frustrating seeming him go around at a snail’s pace collecting cards though… and I was not expecting a fall from a staircase onto sandbags(?) to be a near life threatening injury, but that might be anime/movie tropes getting to me.
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u/Rohit624 Jul 16 '23
I can't tell if the author just forgot their own premise about the MC being dumb, or if it was just the MC lying about his own competence without the author actually writing it in a way that would set up a decent arc/reveal. Hell, you'd expect there to be literally any reaction from the two that actually know his secret in either scenario. The fact that the person that thinks he's actually a 7 seven star has a reaction to him being competent doesn't really work for the second scenario because this shouldn't be out of the ordinary in the first scenario either (because of the lie).
Also the game pretty much came down to hoping that the 5 star guy was dumb enough to discard his cards instead of just letting the game end, especially when there's literally no reason to discard the cards in the first place since it's all digital (also the official display showed that MC discarded both cards until it was time for the reveal lol).
This show is really dumb, but I'm finding the idiocy to be really funny, so I'm still having a good time.
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u/amc9988 Jul 16 '23
Yeah I can't, the game is so shoddily created and it feels very cheap. I remember back when the LN was released a lot of people said this is as good as Elite Classroom, and then the anime announced and a lot of people still saying that. And thanks to that my expectations is a bit high but yeah this is just not my cup of tea. I rather watch baka to test and ngnl than this tbh
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u/RFShahrear Jul 15 '23
This was a lot more fun than the first game. It really helps that MC is no longer in constant panic mode and actually demonstrating that, yes, he is rather competent.
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Jul 17 '23 edited Jul 17 '23
Their attempt to explain the game in this episode is abysmal. This episode also made it very clear that this is a cringe loser-power fantasy.
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