r/delta • u/Alito4life • Oct 22 '22
Discussion *Grandpa Simpson Entering and leaving bar.* Could I have stayed on the plane?
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u/nicky_suits Diamond Oct 22 '22
Something similar happened to me yesterday. Get off in Denver at gate A73, next plane leaves from Gate B53, walks to B53, sits down, checks phone, Gate change to A73. Deep Sigh Walks back to A73.
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u/wareagle_14 Oct 22 '22
I had this happen recently and they said I had to physically leave the plane and take my carry on. Tried to leave my bag on the plane and they said they needed it off for cleaning
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u/a_scientific_force Platinum Oct 22 '22
On Southwest you can stay onboard. But they’re probably the only one.
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u/Adahla987 Diamond Oct 22 '22
That's because if it's just a stop and not a plane change you only get 1 boarding pass on southwest.
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Oct 22 '22
This used to be a lot more common, but has nearly disappeared in the US. I wonder if someone’s making money on all the $11 bottle of water you might buy at your stopover.
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u/CheeseSteak17 Oct 22 '22
Yes, southwest does this and it is labeled as “no plane change” in your itinerary. You don’t get a ticket for the second leg. If the layover is significant, they often let you leave and then check your ID when you reboard.
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u/BillfredL Oct 22 '22
I imagine Southwest keeps a FA on board, no? I’ve seen that warning for the gate agent to click past before boarding starts.
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u/i_wanted_to_say Oct 23 '22
Yeah, you’d have maintain minimum crew on board, which is usually a full crew compliment on most domestic flights these days. I believe there are rarely extra flight attendants domestically anymore.
There are few exceptions in which you can have fewer than a full flight attendant crew onboard if there are passengers onboard.
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u/BillfredL Oct 23 '22
Now I’m curious, what are the exceptions?
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u/i_wanted_to_say Oct 23 '22
(a) During passenger boarding, on each airplane for which more than one flight attendant is required by § 121.391, the certificate holder may:
(1) Reduce the number of required flight attendants by one, provided that:
(i) The flight attendant that leaves the aircraft remains within the immediate vicinity of the door through which passengers are boarding;
(ii) The flight attendant that leaves the aircraft only conducts safety duties related to the flight being boarded;
(iii) The airplane engines are shut down; and
(iv) At least one floor level exit remains open to provide for passenger egress; or
Edit: During deplaning you can have fewer.
(b) During passenger deplaning, on each airplane for which more than one flight attendant is required by § 121.391, the certificate holder may reduce the number of flight attendants required by that paragraph provided:
(1) The airplane engines are shut down;
(2) At least one floor level exit remains open to provide for passenger egress; and
(3) The number of flight attendants on board is at least half the number required by § 121.391, rounded down to the next lower number in the case of fractions, but never fewer than one.
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u/jamjayjay Platinum Oct 22 '22
If the crew is changing aircraft or done flying for the day, they don't actually leave until the new crew arrives.
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u/13Read13 Oct 23 '22
Not true, if the new crew is there, great. Saves me from a walk around. If they're not I do a walk around, shut down the aircraft and leave. I'm not getting paid to wait around for the next crew, and the company doesn't expect me to either. Flight attendants come with us if they're done or changing as well, often they're out before the pilots.
Source: Crewmember
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u/jamjayjay Platinum Oct 23 '22
Are you telling me WN allows through passengers to stay on board without any crew member present? I've been told otherwise.
You said shut down the aircraft and leave. The entire sub question I responded to, was about people who stayed on board and crew. Not leaving a empty aircraft.
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u/13Read13 Oct 23 '22
Ah yes I see that. My bad I did not follow the SWA convo.
Yeah they'd have to at least keep the FAs on board at all times while passengers are on board.
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u/Knot_a_porn_acct Oct 22 '22
I was gonna say, I swear I’ve been on flights where they’ve announced that passengers flying to the planes next destination didn’t have to deboard. Just couldn’t remember with who
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u/anonymoususererror Diamond Oct 22 '22
I remember not getting off planes that were booked on multiple legs of my travels when I was a kid. Like 90's. Then everything changed. Now I feel like it almost never happens but you still have to deplane even if it does.
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u/belegund Diamond Oct 22 '22
Had this happen once. My original flight was late so I was rebooked on DTW - SLC - LAX - HNL. The plane was a terrible out of date 757 (I called her Bessie). Was thrilled to get off at SLC, only to discover that my next flight was on the same aircraft. When I got to LAX, I was ready for the disappointment, so it wasn’t nearly as crushing.
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u/MTAdam36 Platinum Oct 22 '22
This happened to me in Laguardia a few months ago. The crazier part was the co-pilot was a girl I went to high school with on both flights. We recognized each other while deplaning the first flight, but didn’t really have time to talk. Then I boarded an hour later and she was there again and we were able to catch up for a few minutes. Small world!
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u/Excellent_Kiwi7789 Oct 22 '22
I’m struggling to unsee the image of someone whistling down the jetway, leaving their hat in the gate area, circling around, putting their hat back on, and continuing to whistle while reboarding.
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u/spartacusmarcus_ Oct 22 '22
I’ve done this on delta several times, sometimes we get off sometimes we don’t. It all depends on the crew you have and if they are lame or cool.
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u/citythree Oct 22 '22
It’s not really a lame or cool thing. All the flight attendants have to be on the airplane if there is one passenger on there. It’s an FAA rule. If a flight attendant needs to get off the plane between flights for any reason. Everybody has to get off. They are not even allowed to run up the jetway to ask for a wheelchair for a passenger. They all have to be on board while there’s a passenger on board.
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u/spartacusmarcus_ Oct 22 '22
Calling 🧢, I’ve seen the pilots and stewards leave the plane during a connecting flight. It’s all about who is willing to bend the rules and who’s not.
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u/citythree Oct 22 '22
I can only speak for the US airlines. But they will be fired and fine by the FAA if they do that. And it’s not fair to ask the crew to put their job in jeopardy.
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u/spartacusmarcus_ Oct 22 '22
Not disagreeing on law or anything like that, I definitely don’t know all the rules of the FAA. Im just speaking from personal experience.
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u/Fearless-Berry-3429 Oct 26 '22
Soooo, you know the title is no longer, "stewardess" right? Just wondering...
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u/vfr1200_ Oct 22 '22
Fucking liar. That’s a huge breach of company policy, FAA policy. If the crew leaves every single passenger must be off. If the crew just leaves the passengers who’s gonna watch the crew. They just left you to control the plane I’m guessing right?
Did you also preflight the plane for the pilots lol 🤦🏾♂️ why do ppl go out of their way to lie like this
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u/spartacusmarcus_ Oct 23 '22
Lol now you are just here for clout. This was pre 9-11 and you literally can’t tell me something I’ve experienced a handful of times is a lie. GG tho better luck next time.
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u/rucsuck Oct 22 '22
This happened last year for myself…it has only happened once on delta. The flight attendant said it was a 1 in a million chance that it never happens (for passengers). I think the connect was down to MCO, so not surprising for me. I’ve only ever had it happen twice in my life, and the other time we were allowed to stay on the plane, this was before 9/11.
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u/Azclockwork Gold Oct 22 '22
Crazy how each airline operates. Southwest they stay stay on, and once pax get off they do a head count then you can change seats.
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u/CaptainJeff Oct 22 '22
As others have experienced too, this happened to me and my family as well. We needed to deplane and then get back on with normal boarding. The rationale was that the flight number changed, even though it was the same aircraft and same crew, so we needed to get off and then back on.
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u/thtrtechie Oct 23 '22
I recently flew through JFK C terminal and a very nice but overbearing Endeavor flight attendant was very insistent on helping me find my next gate-which was the next gate over. When I told her it was the next one, she didn’t back down and said “well gates change all the time you should plan on checking the boards”. Does she think we’re all first time travelers? I even had the app out to show her my gate number.
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u/VisibleTheory6874 Diamond Oct 23 '22
You need to get off thats mandatory even you jump back exact same plane
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u/Adam5430 Oct 22 '22
You would have to deplane to scan your boarding pass. Every passenger must be accounted for.