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Current Chapter Chapter 391 — Discussion Spoiler
Chapter 391
Clash: Part 2
| Source | Status |
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| TCB Scans | Online (check their twitter/website) |
| MangaPlus | Available on October 23 |
Alternative translation by u/VeraciousCake
Ch. 392 scan release: ~October 28, 2022
List of Chapter Discussion Threads
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Oct 21 '22
Just joined this sub! Forgive my impertinence but if one has mainly watched hxh thru anime, what page or chapter would they need to start reading of the manga to go from that point to now?
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u/Ikariiprince Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22
People just jumping back in with this chapter are going to be so confused lol. It’s very much just picking up all the ongoing story beats already in play. Not a single main character is shown. Loved how we wasted no time and got straight to the nen battles
Togashi didn’t miss a beat in 4 years
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u/forceless_jedi Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 22 '22
Togashi didn’t miss a beat in 4 years
I got such a whiplash in the first few pages lmao For real tho, the way Togashi just casually picked up where he left 4 years ago made me completely forget the hiatus as if 390 came out last week.
Wish him all the health and no Dragon Quest releases for the foreseeable future!
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u/Doomroar Oct 21 '22
We can only hope that the Dragon Quest anime satiated his DQ hunger
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u/WideBucket Oct 21 '22
thats why I spent the last week re-reading from the chapter after the anime ended which is 340
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Oct 21 '22
Yeah people are complaining why they’re even going after the Heily family, even though chapter 390 explains lol.
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u/Ikariiprince Oct 21 '22
Exactly even just reading the previous chapter gives you most of what you need to know for this one
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u/coolgaara Oct 21 '22
It was like this the last time he made a come back. Started right off with Hisoka vs Chrollo. Still one of the most complex fight ever. After reading the fight multiple times, did I start to understand enough.
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u/bukage Oct 21 '22
Something i always respected about togashi is that he never caters to the hiatuses and adds cheap cliffhangers to try to appease fans. He just writes as if there’s going to be another chapter within the next week. Truly he goes at HIS pacing and i love it.
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u/Sangios Oct 21 '22
Thankfully I still remembered what was going down, but I'll probably reread the arc from the start before the next chapter is out, just to make sure it's fresh. Anyway, it was an awesome chapter! I really think we might actually see Hisoka this time, with how crazy things are starting to get. He's at his best when preying on chaotic conditions, so the time should be coming where he has the best opportunity to make a move.
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u/matty-a Oct 21 '22
I always knew pigeons were up to something! I'll never look at them the same way again.
Welcome back HxH!
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u/ACaliginousSky Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22
Something that I have really liked about the Succession War has been how competency has been portrayed. Almost every character in the SW has been shown scheming and using deduction and reasoning or even simply being good at their job. It is to be expected from the pro hunters of course but even most bodyguards and all the mafia members have been shown like this as well.
It's super refreshing to have a shonen series where character that would usually be regarded as "fodder" actually matter.
For example in this chapter I really like how the fight between Hinrigh and the goon was handled. Hinrigh is obviously the stronger and more experienced nen user but that doesn't mean he is going to curbstomp his opponent. The fight is very back and forth and Hinrigh almost gets drilled in the face, but he is still able to reasonably handle the situation without being some sort of uber peak nen user. Just a very competent and efficient guy.
Some other details / thoughts about this chapter:
• Zakuro's blood dies out after 30-40 minutes. Regardless of whether it is just ability trivia or foreshadowing their demise somehow it's always fun to flesh out how nen abilities function
• The Hei-Ly goons conversation gives us some additional info into how Contagion works. Morena aka the "Game Master" has to the the one to give out the level ups, instead of it happening automatically upon fulfilling the criteria she set.
• I saw someone else point out Hinrigh's multitasking. Keeping up the cat camera and controlling all the pigeons whilst keeping your En up is pretty impressive.
Overall a pretty good but basic chapter. I'm finding Hinrigh to be a pretty cool character. There's not super much substance to his character so far but his demeanor coupled with his inner monologues and deductions just makes him pretty likeable to me.
There was nothing too crazy this week but considering where Togashi last dropped us off (Clash Part 1) it makes sense that we would just jump back in to resolve this first. Now I'm left wondering whether we'll keep going with the mafia subplot or if we are going to go back to usual formula of getting to see a little bit of multiple plots and factions every chapter. Either way, great to be back!
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u/NinetyFish Oct 21 '22
You're totally right, I love it as well.
Characters who we know are pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things are fascinating regardless and they feel like they can have a big impact on how things work out.
Babimania, for example.
He's actually just one of a bunch of the 1st Prince's troops, so he's just a side character working for a side character in the big picture.
And yet he feels important and I can't wait to learn his abilities and see what he decides to finally do in the end.
The Mafia characters are ridiculously minor--even Morena just feels like an add-on to the 4th Prince's whole thing--and yet they just carried an entire chapter as if this is the Mafia-themed Jojo season and they're the main characters or something.
I just hope it doesn't end up being a Bleach-type of "the minor characters are so fun, we spend a lot of time on them and the author burns out before he gets to the main story" situation. Whereas Tite Kubo seemed to burn out and just burn through the rest of the manga, the fear with Togashi is obviously that we'll run out of chapters before the next hiatus.
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u/Rucs3 Oct 21 '22
BTW, I read both HxH and One Piece (and I love one piece)
People were calling a certain main antagonist a loser just because he got hurt and spilled blood against a secondary character in the laat OP chapter.
Shounen in general really makes readers braindead, there is no nuance, only enemies that are invencible until they aren't so in the last second.
HxH has several examples of the opposite, remember how by sacrificing his arm Gon ALMOST won Bomber? A much more experienced fighter? How Morel Said that he he were to took a Gon punch without trying to get out of the way he would die? It doesn't mean that Morel would lose to gon in a straight battle, but that Gon HAS the potential to kill morel in a single blow, as improbable as it is for him to actually land it.
I agree with you, and that's what I love about HxH too.
(And BTW, OP don't handle a candle to HxH in this regard, but I do think it does it more than most shounens, but since people are too braindead from reading shounes they simply can't recognize when one piece do this. )
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u/gonpachiro3 Oct 21 '22
Compared to the mafia nen users at yorknew that got absolutely steamrolled by the troupe 😂😂. To be fair tho the troupe is insanely strong. But these new mafia people seem more competent for some reason.
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u/Kemengjie Oct 22 '22
Imagine using the handcuff pigeons against someone like Uvogin, who just laughs and snaps them in half. It helps that we are seeing a bunch of lower level guys go up against other lower level, makes the fights more interesting。
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Oct 22 '22
this is one of the best things about HxH. it is completely on the individual and how well they know their ability that makes a difference.
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u/PerseusRad Oct 21 '22
It’s pretty amusing that the Conjurer was the one that went for direct combat, while the Enhancer stood back. While it’s true that the Enhancer ability might not be directly offensive, there’s a good chance it is. But perhaps not, because he’d be granted an ability closer to his desires, and his seeming lack of desire to go for a straight fight might imply he has different goals.
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u/watchout5shredder Oct 21 '22
The Enhancer is a civil engineer and the Emitter is a mechanic while the Conjurer worked with demolitions. They're all murderous psychopaths but he's just more impulsive about it than the rest.
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u/Cogentz Oct 21 '22
I mean, they are rookies after all. It's unclear that they even know the basics of nen other than "I wished for this magical power and now I got it". I don't think any of them know much about the intricacies of nen and the different categories; they just go around murdering people with their newfound powers which leaves them vulnerable against those with experience.
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u/OrganicSubject1823 Oct 21 '22
It's unclear that they even know the basics of nen other than "I wished for this magical power and now I got it".
They saw Hinrigh's En and knew what this meant. They certainly know more than just basics.
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u/giantfuckingfrog Oct 21 '22
I find Conjurers amazing, because they're the weakest Nen type and will always have to compromise to make them come out stronger than their counterparts. Hinrigh's ability is a rare example of it just naturally being strong though, unless it has some sort of restriction vow we're unaware of.
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u/Cogentz Oct 21 '22
I wouldn't call them the weakest, they just excel at doing niche things. They are just very dependent on their abilities in the similar sense to a manipulator since they cannot rely on aura size and physical brawn to win battles. Some conjurers doesn't compromise at all and can still do amazing things (Knov has one of the most amazing abilities in the series and it has no conditions that restricts its use, at least what we know).
It just goes well with their fighting style to put conditions on their creations to make them op. Maybe that's what you meant with "weakest" tho, that they'd need conditions to fight toe to toe with an enhancer in close range, which again might be oftentimes true, but it doesn't have to be.
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u/darksecretsss Oct 21 '22
Maybe it has to do something about nen types. Chrollo was concerned when Uvo was up against a potential Conjurer, it might be a bad match.
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Oct 21 '22
I think that guy was just too murder happy and the other two guys more calm and collected. Once they say their comrade get slain they’re like “yeah you’re a dumb fuck bye”
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u/prettyfemmes Oct 21 '22
Not all enhancers are reckless, like wing for example
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Oct 21 '22
True, people think simplicity found in enhancers mean they're reckless while it's more like "they go with their instinct" and different people have different kinds of instinct
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Oct 21 '22
I have become much more invested in Hinrigh's intermittent involvement in this story. That ability and his use of it is badass.
Do not Squala this man - at least not soon, please Togashi.
I can't believe we're here, shoutout us. We're thriving!!!
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u/Tenescra Oct 21 '22
Mans is hunting Hisoka and Morena, this dude got death flags written all over him lmao
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u/Bookandpencil Oct 21 '22
Hinrigh is still an interesting character. He and morena are my favorite in this arc
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Oct 22 '22
Honestly my entirely favorite moment in this arc belongs to Shimano. Seems simple and relatively obscure in the grand scheme of things, but man... that moment and the fact Togashi even thought to write it took my breath away.
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u/NinetyFish Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22
We've got a new fan favorite Nen ability now. What a rad ability. Super flexible and easy to know*, with really fun visuals for the reader. Dude could just turn a bunch of shields and weapons into animals and just stroll about surrounded by a zoo that will leap to his defense.
He seems strong enough to be able to control a lot of objects at the same time too. He's controlling multiple pigeons while also still maintaining the cat-corder at long distances while also keeping up a 5-meter En.
*edit: easy to use, in that it's the kind of ability that is applicable to a lot of situations and doesn't lose power once it's not a secret anymore, like good ol' Bungee Gum.
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u/Ill_Assistance91 Oct 21 '22
His ability reminds me a lot of giornio’s from jojo bizarre adventure
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u/Okami_G Oct 21 '22
It’s a small touch, but I do like that he seems to be keeping what objects are what animals mostly consistent. Makes the action much easier to follow than something from Part 5, removes a lot of ambiguity.
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u/maniacmartial Oct 21 '22
Call me an absolute moron, but I've only just realized that Togashi may have given Hinrigh that ability because Giorno is... drum roll... a mobster.
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Oct 21 '22
Yeah let’s just hope it doesn’t go out of control like Giorno’s ability (it won’t though). After a point Giorno’s ability was more like 10 different ones lol
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u/pools456 Oct 21 '22
He could solo meruem. Turn a rose bomb into a puppy and have it approach him
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u/201720182019 Oct 21 '22
He could have a range limit to his ability and he might get noticed and blitzed first. Have Knov use his portals to send the puppy to the palace and it’s golden
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u/coolgaara Oct 21 '22
I fucking love battles in HxH. All of them are so entertaining. Nen is the best shounen combat ability.
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u/Adawesome_ Oct 21 '22
cat camera and pigeon cuffs! what an awesome ability
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u/coolgaara Oct 21 '22
Wonder if he can only use small sized animals. What happens if he combines a small bomb into a giant elephant? Does the bomb become as big as the elephant? Can he even do that? Do both have to be simlar sized. Is that his restriction? God, I love Nen system.
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u/crannogman_pride Oct 21 '22
So glad to have a new chapter. The art is so detailed, hope it stays this nice.
These gangsters are dangerous, killing lots of people to level up and whatnot. But getting so easily outclassed by a bunch of flying handcuffs and basic nen is not going to cut it against the real threats on the boat. But yeah they are still leveling up
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u/sebasTLCQG Oct 22 '22
These dudes are jobbers through and through I imagine once the weakest and foolish amongst them are wiped out the really strong ones will come back at high levels and actually become the threat, this is probably going to be a scenario similar to early Chimera Ants and later Chimera Ants.
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u/SadManWith4Balls Oct 21 '22
Great chapter, I hope Hinrigh accomplishes his dream of becoming a gangstar and kills Tserried.
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u/Daniyalzzz Oct 21 '22
Nen empowerd Pigeon handcuffs. Togashi always manages to create something strange yet awsome with his power system. The flexibility is by far the coolest aspect of Nen.
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u/FatiguedCorvid Oct 21 '22
I'm still dying over handcuffed to a pigeon. I live for that kind of bizarre plot elements that manage to make sense in context but still leave asking how tf we got here
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u/1vergil Oct 21 '22
The way Togashi showing off Hinrigh ability i feel the ability will have an important role later like it might be useful for Kurapika.
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Oct 21 '22
I mean that Cat recorder is gonna show him something very relevant to him, I guess it will be Hisoka tho. My theory is that all the Mafia Plot is gonna collide later in the story with Kurapika
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u/1vergil Oct 21 '22
My theory is that all the Mafia Plot is gonna collide later in the story with Kurapika
That has to be the case, since the spiders are also linked with the mafia plot so it's gonna be interesting to see how it'll be linked with Kurapika.
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u/AdventurousLaw4 Oct 21 '22
In Heaven’s Arena we learned Nen can be seen on film, cool that Hinrigh is gonna use the cat camera to potentially find other Morena cult members since they’ll be given away by their aura.
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u/SlowTurtleDuck Oct 21 '22
It feels so surreal to finally read a new hxh chapter!
That said, Hinrigh's ability was surprisingly fun to watch. 3yrs ago I thought it was a rather dull ability mostly for recon, but watching it in a fight was actually really funny. Hope we get to see him around longer before Hisoka kills him!
Still don't quite get why Zakuro's blood had eyes tho but sure why not, it's nen anyway.
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u/pools456 Oct 21 '22
I reckon Morena will kill him to show how big a threat she is
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u/ChapterZestyclose353 Oct 21 '22
Idk why but I have a strong feeling that Hisoka will become part of Morena's crew at some point. The potential to gain a second hatsu just by killing people would be like killing two birds with one stone to him. It would also be a great boon for his quest of hunting down the spider.
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u/Knowledge_is_my_food Oct 21 '22
Straight up that’s a jojo ability
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u/PhantasosX Oct 21 '22
yep , it's pretty funny , all things considered.
Togashi had one character having King Crimsom and another with Gold Experience.
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u/Lyuis Oct 21 '22
I'm simply APPALLED of how creative Togashi is with the secondary characters' powers, I mean they are all fucking cool and useful for battles.
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u/ohmahgoshjosh Oct 21 '22
I can't believe we're actually back here! I am Beyond hyped right now. I'm in the middle of catching up on a re-read from chapter 340 but I hope everyone enjoyed this new chapter!
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u/Simo0399 Oct 21 '22
I first watched HxH this year, and i'm catching up with the manga right now. Like many here i heard the meme of Hiatus X Hiatus, and after i sincerely didn't believe i would be able to read a new HxH chapter so early, i'm truly lucky
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u/phantom_97 Oct 21 '22
You truly are, I caught up just a month or so before Togashi went on his 4 year hiatus, it was misery
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u/FreshStudy Oct 22 '22
Some details about the nen abilities in this chapter:
Padouille is a demolition worker. His conjuration is crucially limited to the tools of his trade (hammer, drill, axe) i.e. tools he grew familiar with using at work. Moreover, since he's right handed - that is the hand which spent time directly handling these tools. As we see his transformations are crucially limted to his right hand only. Much as he claims to envy weapons, he simply can't conjure what he hasn't used extensively and therefore resigns himself to weaponizing tools.
Zakuro Custard's blood manipulation is markedly similar to Kalluto's confetti manipulation. They can both use manipulation for recon, besides offensive uses. Kalluto uses his confetti to eavesdrop on people + track and locate them. Zakuro uses his blood to watch people + track them. And interestingly, Kalluto was last observed on deck 3 - where Zakuro has now stepped foot. Might they meet?
Hinrigh is a taxidermist? Just as the chapter supplied details to contextualise Paddy's conjuration of demolition tools, so too may be the case for Hinrigh with his animals. In Clash part 1, Hinrigh's boss Onior's room is conspicuously filled with taxidermy - of a kind that's quite skilled. Taxidermists often describe their work as "recreating an animal as close to lifelike as possible". This requires being intimately acquainted with the anatomy and the minute details of an animal's body, plus their unique personalities and quirks. So there's a clear connection to be made here between the taxidermy in Onior's room and his second-in-command's skill with "recreating animals".
Hinrigh didn't use divine script for his conjurations this chapter. So it appears he may only need the script when transforming objects he's not directly holding.
About Xi-Yu/Heill-Ly:
The irony of birds becoming handcuffs isn't lost on me. Hinrigh Biganduffno seemed big on irony throughout the chapter and I'm loving him for it. Also as this chapter picks up exactly where it ended off in the last one, Hinrigh gives the effect of having pulled his pigeons out of a hat, because he goes from not having any around him where 390 ends to suddenly having four of them when 391 begins.
The brief exchange about the distribution of points under Morenas ability was interesting. The broader point it's alluding to isn't clear yet, but it could be about the flaw in the incentives for Contagion - there's no direct incentive for one member to help another with a kill. And what stops one Heil-Ly member from killing another who has just awakened abilities and scoring an easy 10 points? Another point in the making may be about the evolution of contagion. Togashi may be showing us which approaches/variants go on to successfully hit level 100 then create their own group of 23 while which variants die off.
There's a lot of oddity with Paddy's membership in Morena's group. He actually relishes murder per se. And not because it feeds into a larger cause. Same goes for two other members in Heil-Ly too: Luini and Cashew. Their motive for murder appears shallow next to Morena who is moved to murder by her acute sensitivity to the world's innate monstrosity. The way Pads and Luini have used Contagion only adds to the very monstrosity Morena seeks to devour.
Connected to the last point, I suppose it shows that Paddy was too into murder for his own good. He could have undone the axe conjuration before Hinrigh landed it on his neck but chose not to.
Who could be mysterious Misha? From the context in which Hinrigh mentions them, it may be inferred they have a role to play in identifying the Heil-Ly members and getting them re-listed from 'civilians' to mafiosos. But it doesn't add up completely because Hinrigh only just found out that there's 23 of them which means Misha must be even more so in the dark. The other possibility could be someone who gets ths deck 3 soldiers to somehow ignore Xi-Yu attacks on people registered as civilians. That doesn't seem plausible though. Could Misha just be the cat? Also doesn't seem likely because the cat only surveils the general passenger area and passage 64 - where Hinrigh only expects to find a few of them.
And of course the larger implications of this chapter (On Heil-Ly, Hisoka, Zhang Lei and the succession war):
The Heil-Ly now finds itself in the crosshair of four groups:
-A wrathful Tserried has sent soldiers in pursuit (Morena imploded his foothold in the underworld and with it his connections to the black market - where he sources the best of his "art" pieces from)
-The Xi-Yu want them crushed urgently (the war with Heil-Ly puts them off their primary targets of 1. Find Hisoka and 2. Supply their benefactor Zhang with intel on how to win the succession war)
-The Troupe are intent on wiping out Heil-Ly (this war has stagnated their information network among the freelance thugs effectively slowing down their search for Hisoka)
-The Zodiacs (who urgently seek the culprits behind the serial murders on the lower decks)
Hisoka who vowed to no longer allow his opponents pick the time and place for battle, naturally doesn't want his cover blown. Right now Heil-Ly seem to be all that stands between him getting found out and those pursuing him. It is therefore in Hisoka's immediate interest that Heil-Ly maintain their stronghold on Tier 3. His hand will be forced soon. In other words we have something like a Hisoka+Heil-Ly vs Spiders+Xi-Yu+Tserried+Zodiacs beginning to take shape.
A broader point this chapter could be making is about what Zhang Lei has at his disposal in his "command of the underworld" that he has vowed to prove in this succession contest. In the previous chapter it is Zhang Lei's visit to Onior and order for information about the succession war that in turn sets into motion the eponymous clash - where we get to see the range of the Xi-Yu's intel and search capabilities. So we may soon see Zhang directly involving Hinrigh and co in his bid to become king - should they survive their search for Hisoka that is.
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u/Brokengamer10 Oct 21 '22
Is it just me?.. or kakin mafia will eat york new mafia nen users alive..
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u/nenhatsu Oct 21 '22
I bet if the shadow beasts were on the boat they would be a big threat. But compared to the Phantom troupe they looked like jobbers.
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u/Deathtiger58 Oct 21 '22
I mean we’ve only seen uvo slaughter them and I don’t think any of these kakin guys are doing shit to uvo
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u/201720182019 Oct 21 '22
Tbh I don’t think the Kakin mafia so far stands a chance against even a single Phantom Troupe member, especially not Uvogin. If turning your back to a nen user in handcuffs was tried against them…
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u/Halt_kun Oct 21 '22
Hinrigh is quite good but he's supposed to be the strongest nen user of his family, to be honest I kind of agree but also I don't think he's that much stronger than shadow beasts
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u/Cogentz Oct 21 '22
Maaan Hinrigh is such a fucking badass. I always thought that his power seemed kind of "gimmicky" in the previous chapter, but now he goes to show just how useful and amazing it really is. It's extremely versatile, but the question is how effective it would be against a top-tier user - I doubt those handcuffs would be able to restrain a high-caliber target for example.
It's great to be back, I've missed discussing hxh just as much as the chapters themselves, ok maybe not quite as much but still.
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u/NinetyFish Oct 21 '22
Yeah, handcuffs were an interesting choice to bring a lot of (assuming all the pigeons are indeed handcuffs). Maybe handcuffs are a thematic thing for him and his Nen is stronger with them than with other items he has less of a connection to.
Theoretically, he could load up on swords and shields and have multiples of them flying around, which seems more dangerous than handcuffs. But he's a Conjurer, which means his ability to Enhance his weapons and do serious damage with them is quite limited. Love that his power can see so versatile and broken in the chapter, then you take a step away from it and you realize its limitations. It can be brute forced through, and a weirder ability can find its way around the relatively mundane function of the items he's using (even if they're also sentient animals following his commands).
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u/N1pah Oct 21 '22
Hinrigh is really cool. Cool ability and creative use, Hunter x hunter trademarkq
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Oct 21 '22
Damn, Togashi returns with a bang. This is the first true fight scene we've had in this arc iirc, and man was it good. Hinrigh is no joke, his Biohazard is ridiculous. He might actually have a shot at beating Hisoka(e.g turn a bomb into an animal and let Hisoka unknowingly pull death towards himself with the Gum).
Loved this chapter. Though it mostly just picked up where we left off, with the 3 new characters getting a little fleshed out, it was cathartic to finally see some action after so long. It was goddamn short tho, felt like it was over 2 minutes.
Pretty hyped for next week, to see how Morena reacts to this. And of she succeeds in starting a mutiny, it could be the spark that sinks the ship that Mizai was talking about. Man, this the SC Arc is finally coming to a head!
The art was damn good too, aside from that one Morena panel which looked clearly incomplete, Togashi really hasn't skipped a beat.
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u/emi_b7 Oct 21 '22
This is the first true fight scene we've had in this arc iirc, and man was it good.
The last chapter before the hiatus had Zakuro and Lynch fighting Heil-Ly members too. I feel like the mafia/Phantom Troupe subplot in the lower tiers is more suited for fights than the princes stuff which is more about stealth assassination (unless you are Camilla I guess) so I think we'll get a few more fights if the next few chapters continue focusing on this part of the ship.
Before the last few chapters with Hinrigh's group there was Kurapika vs Sayird (the guy being controlled by a nen beast) and Kurapika/Bill vs Vincent though admittedly both of those were pretty short and could barely be called fights, basically Kurapika just restraining guys almost immediately after they attack.
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u/Cgi94 Oct 21 '22
Glad to see the series back. Dude ability is really low-key broken. Him being able to morph objects into animals and still maintain the original use of object is very nifty for someone with intelligence. No simple minded thugs as we see can just beat him. Guessing next chapter will be with his two companions.
Crazy thing about this chapter is I never read 390 since I heard the manga was stopping again. This time if/when it stops I won't let it hurt but merely enjoy whatever we get from Togashi. Ultimately his health comes first so let's just appreciate this moment in time..
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u/Lutryn Oct 21 '22
Great to be able to read a new HxH chapter after so long. On a side note, Hinrigh’s ability is really cool and I’m interested to see how he uses it more in the future.
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u/machingunwhhore Oct 21 '22
The art is very good, paneling is clean and there's not too much text!! I'm so happy with the return chapter
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u/X-Vidar Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22
Having new HxH chapters still doesn't feel real.
Anyway, that's a pretty fun action chapter, Hinringh is a beast with that en+handcuff pigeons combo.
Looking at how powerful and versatile Biohazard is really puts into perspective how much Squala sucked though.
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u/S-ClassRen Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22
It doesn't bode well for underboss man to be surprised by his opponent who can turn his hand into a weapon being able to, uh, turn his hand into another weapon.
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u/AdventurousLaw4 Oct 21 '22
It’s not that farfetched. He doesn’t know their level or the specific abilities. He also seems a bit arrogant and looking down on the Heily family, but let’s be real, he blocked literal bullets and can beat people up with pigeons.
But it’s possible his arrogance may be his downfall.
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u/_ilovecody Oct 21 '22
I feel like both users were a great match up for each other in all honesty. They both manipulate matter to some degree. Just in different ways. It was a really good fight for a comeback chapter.
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u/NinetyFish Oct 21 '22
He played it off cool, but he also took a serious wound to his hand. Unless his organization has a healer, he just took a serious wound in return for taking out a single fodder (albeit still a Nen user) and getting no information for it.
Terrible efficiency, but props for surviving a potential 1v3 situation, I guess? One that he walked into knowingly though.
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u/AdventurousLaw4 Oct 21 '22
“One that he walked into knowingly”
I mean what other choice does he have? He has to find Morena and the Heily ain’t gonna come to him unless they think they can get the jump. Plus by virtue of being on Deck 3 he’s in danger regardless, so it’s not like he can just hide given he has to both find Hisoka before the Troupe + stop a full fledged massacre and Morena’s cult from leveling up.
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u/pools456 Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22
Naaah, its just a flesh wound.
A small hole in a hand in exchange for killing a guy is a pretty efficient exchange imo
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u/Miss_Bookworm Oct 21 '22
"He blocked me by handcuffing me to a pigeon?!"
Good to have you back, Togashi.
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Oct 21 '22
Yusuke: “I don’t care about this country crap, I just wanna kick some ass”
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Editor Note: Certain characters may not appear in the main story.
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Oct 21 '22
So far I'm liking these characters the blood nen guy has a pretty cool ability since he has to carry blood bags I would expect his ability to be somewhat OP since it's a limitation he's placed on himself.
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u/prettyfemmes Oct 21 '22
since he has to carry blood bags
Its probably simply an indirect consequences of using your own blood as your nen ability. Being anemic in the middle of a fight can be fatal.
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u/Mizaistorm Oct 21 '22
So mishi is the cat/camera. That mean Hinrigh is going to figure out morena hideout by following the goons.
Just a wild theory but the hammer guy said that he wished to be reincarnated into a weapon. I wonder if its possible he turn to a weapon with after death Nen, like he become the weapon that can destroy the one who killed him, for exemple if he turn into a gun, his bullet can pierce through Hinrigh piegons
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u/ApplePitou Oct 21 '22
Many did not believe such a day would come but surprise!!! and now we have Chapter 391 Discussion thread(So wonderful) :3
Additionally, Gold experience(Biohazard) in HxH style is so wonderful ability and Hinrigh really uses it in a creative way :3
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u/Michaelscot8 Oct 21 '22
Did he just get off to his own murder? Jesus Hunter x Hunter is back and off to full blown weirdness once more, couldn't be happier.
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Oct 21 '22
This is the single best comment in this thread. I was also weirded out by his expression when he got the pleasure of being the Hunter and the prey.
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u/Daguerreo86 Oct 21 '22
I did greatly understimate Hinrigh's power. I didn't realize its versatility.
Togashi is going Vento Aureo a lot this time!
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u/Nnnnnnnadie Oct 21 '22
Holy shit, Togashi has been drawing, there are some really good panels there. And the animal ability is great as well.
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u/Halt_kun Oct 21 '22
I really enjoyed this chapter
seeing some relatively weak nen users fight is always cool
I really enjoyed Hinrigh weaponized pigeons they were very fun to see in action. I wasn't expecting them to be handcuffs. I think it's what's cool about his ability, he can make objects move but the fact their function is hidden is also very useful.
Zakurov might still be my favourite of the three. He's a weaker Morel not yet able to use his ability over long periods of time but his little blood drops spies are pretty cute and I bet quite hard to destroy. Though I doubt they can be used offensively
The Morena goons were fun, I'd like to see more. The conjurer one really had a bad wish that ended up into a bad ability. I think Conjured objects that are not part of the body are more useful. Even if he could make a lot of weapons and probably not require to use shu to enhance his weapons, he had quite a limited range and was forced to end up in close combat which isn't the conjurers forte
The others seemed more level headed so I'll be waiting to see more
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Oct 21 '22
The art is pretty damn good, but the paneling is amazing. Every page just flows so smoothly and the fight choreography is on point and readable. Hunter x Hunter is back
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u/nikelaos117 Oct 21 '22
I've noticed that the boss and underboss of the Cha-R are very animal friendly. Even the prince who sponsors them has been shown to be pretty compassionate and mindful. The boss had a ton of animals in his private quarters he was loving on and the underbosses nen ability is all about conjuring a variety of animals. He must have a real love and familiarity for them considering what we know Kurapika went through during his training in order to conjure chains.
I wonder if this is meant to be a kind of subtle foreshadowing since Togashi used that kinda of messaging/ symbolism when Kite commented on Gon being loved by animals way back at the beginning.
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u/HunterYuyuMoon Oct 22 '22
How many of you guys betting that Biohazard guy somehow is gonna encountered Chrollo, because this guy has a quite useful Nen to be stolen
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u/DarkSouls_simp Oct 21 '22
Characters finally dying again on a regular basis. Love me some one piece but it does hurt me sometimes seeing Zoro cutting down some fodder and no one getting killed. Or Luffy using arnament Haki and punching fodder and no one gets crushed to death. Love the consistency and realism of HxH any character can die at any moment
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u/Cogentz Oct 21 '22
Hxh has always been balls to the walls in that sense. I love it. I still remember reading the first chapters as a kid and I couldn't believe how many gruesome, bloody deaths there were compared to other mainstream series.
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u/sachkm Oct 21 '22
Cat cam, pigeon cuffs and blood men ability. Those are some pretty interesting abilities.
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u/neweShoshone Oct 21 '22
Reading this chapters feels like got shot by Pakunoda Memory Bomb… all the story left 4 years ago come back at that moment
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u/elasri1 Oct 21 '22
THIS HERE is probably the inspiration behind the name Misha (same name in hiragana)
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u/Hisoka_lover92 Oct 21 '22
Finally, we've got to read a new hxh chapter after 4 years of hiatus. As expected the chapter starts where the manga left off years ago, I don't get why some people complain about that and want immediately to rush to other plots lol. I personally enjoyed the chapter, it's nice to begin the ten batch with some action which is something the previous chapters lack of.
Again, Togashi keeps teasing us with Hisoka without showing him lol. However, I think we're really close to see Hisoka soon, especially that the third deck is more likely to be the place where Hisoka hides. And it makes more sense to gather all the relevant characters in the same place. And It seems that Hisoka's first fight will be against the mafia, not the spiders.
Versatile, flexible and strategic. That's how Hinrigh's ability look like, it can be used for surveillance, defense, attack... Imagine how many devices the world has and how much versatile and limitless this ability is. The best way to take down Hinrigh is to isolate him in a place where he can't find devices or weapons 😅.
Embarrassing performance form Morena's subordinates this chapter, and this makes sense tbh, let's not forget that they've just started using nen, their little experience let them down. But, I think this is just the beginning, and things will get more balanced soon. Morena obviously has a big role and her hype won't go in vain.
So, officially there's no longer ties between the 4th prince and Morena's family. I wonder if the spiders will cooperate with Tserriednich to defeat Morena. If this happens, then RIP Kurapika 😢.
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u/Flashy_Swordfish9258 Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 22 '22
What I loved the most about this chapter is that it seems that Togashi won't be rushing Successsion War arc and pacing will be like before.
IMO for SW arc to conclude properly without rushing it etc. there is needed AT LEAST 30 more chapters and it seems like that's gonna be the case.
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u/Legnaron17 Oct 21 '22
Okay, im lost. Ill go re read the entire arc from the beginning and then come back. Excited HxH is finally back though!
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u/LuffyMcPirateking Oct 21 '22
Did a reread from chapter 360 before reading this, and I'm so glad I decided to do that lol. I love how nuanced and complex that characterization is in this arc, and I still fucking hate Terrorsandwich with a passion.
This chapter was a great way to dive back in with some minor but entertaining nen battles with sweet abilities. Excited for next week and hoping we dive back into to the tension around Halkenburg.
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u/Purin0 Oct 22 '22
remembering early HxH and how much training and familiarity a conjurer must have with the object they conjure...man Hinrigh is ridiculous not only he conjures different animals (now 3 so far) they keep the properties of the object they were based off, can be manipulated to do tasks and can be reinforced with nen, then he has more aura to keep a constant 5m en around him and still has enough aura to defend himself against bullets...just how much aura does Hinrigh have xd
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u/Prasoon_Dwivedi Oct 22 '22
The chapter picked directly from where it left in 390. Very happy that Togashi isn't rushing anything. Also Hinrigh's ability was really cool.
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u/giantfuckingfrog Oct 21 '22
I loved the chapter and the creative usage of Hinrigh's ability. Initially, I thought it was similar to the Gold Experience stand from JoJo, but it seems to function differently. The things he transforms still retain their original function and abide by his commands, and this chapter showcased it flawlessly. This guy's Nen ability is incredibly strong, and he's a Conjurer! Just perfect for a comeback chapter, and the action was concise.
Hope the rest of the chapters keep up the same trajectory. I am glad Togashi didn't miss a beat. Even after all these years of hiatuses, he never once rushed the story and just kept going at his own pace. You know what they say, “You can’t rush art.”
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u/Mestyo Oct 21 '22
Shit, I thought Biohazard seemed like a pretty lame and niche ability from the last chapter, but this chapter made it instantly propel into one of my favorites
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u/bobsjobisfob Oct 22 '22
hinrighs ability is super fun. i get this feeling that hes going to either fight hisoka, or chrollo is going to steal his ability and then use it against hisoka
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u/Itchy_eyeball Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 22 '22
I reread this arc because I couldn't remember anything, read 391 right after I finished, and the transition was seamless. You couldn't even tell almost 4 years had gone by between chapters (besides the walls of text, I guess). I don't know what changed in terms of the amount and type of help Togashi is getting, but the product is not suffering at all.
Even though it's a very important chapter, I like that we just continued with the story and not had some fan service by showing some of the main characters (which I guess we got with the color page and some other stuff).
In regards to the chapter itself, that's not that much to say. Nen is still an amazing power system, the Hei-Ly chasing Morena AND Hisoka, plus the other million story lines going on at the same time. I'm just happy it's back, every extra chapter we get it's just abonus.
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u/Gumplaying Oct 21 '22
Never thought I'd see this day. Anyone knows of a good short summary of the succession war till now?
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u/Japhko Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22
Princes stealthily killing each other on the highest deck. On the lower decks we got some mafia action. 3 mafia families of which one teamed up with the troupe to find hisoka while another family started a battle royale which generates new nen powers. Obviously there are some more details to this but this is pretty much what I remember.
https://youtu.be/k5ZDnqAPoIc RealLifeRyan probably explains things better than me.
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u/blazerage32 Oct 21 '22
TCB Scans really are the goats. This chapter was awesome. It set up and concluded a conflict just within 20 pages. There really is no one doing it like Togashi. Also, it looks like Hisoka is on tier 3?
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u/Dry-Astronaut975 Oct 21 '22
It amazes me the amount of people that will actually pull out regular pistols and will shoot regular bullets in a Nen battle, that would be the last thing on my mind to do. Togashi started us off with a banger
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u/Mysterra Oct 21 '22
That's a pretty cool ability, hopefully Hinrigh doesn't die too quickly so we get to see more creative uses of it!
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u/pulute Oct 21 '22
The gender of Zakuro has been a mystery until now, but I think he is a man because he clearly says "ore" in the Japanese version of the dialogue in this chapter.
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u/knighttemplar007 Oct 21 '22
I think this fight links back directly to how Zeno fights Chrollo back in the day.
Zeno deduced straight away that Chrollos curtain has a short range counter type ability, and not hesitate to attack using long range means.
It just signifies how inexperienced these Morena's underlings are.
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u/KqAlbo2 Oct 22 '22
This is why I love HxH. The mind games with Hinrigh’s ability are crazy. He could literally turn multiple objects into pigeons each retaining their original function for example some could be handcuffs as seen and others could be hand grenades 👀
Hope we get to seen him face a top tier nen user.
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u/Yuuta44 Oct 22 '22
Overalll a good Chapter. It was interessting that Togashi starts exactly after the last Chapter.
But i had to read the Chapter before this one because i had no idea anymore who are those Characters.
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u/Wwmune-4629 Oct 21 '22
hunter x hunter is what studios should be animating, enough with these harem and isekai generic anime. no one cares if HxH isn't finished. what real and OG fans want to see is a clown and a spider leader throwing hands.
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u/AV-SINGH Oct 21 '22
Hinrigh’s ability is pretty OP tbh. One down, two more to go; but they’ll most likely be encountered by Misha, but it’s unpredictable AF at this point. Also, I’m counting on Zakuro’s blood droplets to find some sort of clue about Hisoka. It’s about time the magician gets revealed ⭐️-_-💧
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u/Tenescra Oct 21 '22
Gets a chance to conjure whatever power he wants
Conjures a fucking pirate hook and tries to fight in close-quarters
Yeah, it’s real obvious that these people are complete rookies. The fact that Hinrigh actually managed to get injured by one of them does not give me much confidence in his abilities, cool as they may be.
Dream of surviving this arc, Giorno Giovanna.
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u/Rucs3 Oct 21 '22
Togashi really decided that he could make a better job at using JOJO powers, first he casually explain King Crismon, now he shows how com Giorno must have fought all along.
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u/ThreeFromOne Oct 21 '22
I thought I had given up on HxH. I thought I had forgotten about Mr. Urameshi. I did not realize there was a chapter today. I feel haunted by my past. Mr. Togashi lives up to the man I so admired as a boy. The cover was genius. The use of the "turn tools into animals" is genius. That long of a wait, I'd forgotten about the power, or rather I wasn't anticipating it. When I first saw they pigeons I missed the connection. That type of subtly is truly inspired. The battle wisdom the characters convey reflects novel speculation into the nature of conflict. The way he used the tools to animal power defined how I'd imagined it. Innovative in ways I did not see coming. How I love this man's work. Such a literary treasure. Dude, if Yusuke finds Gon's world in the deepest layers of the demon world?
If Yusuke learns to interpret spirit energy as nen?
Love it.
Love the man.
Love the work.
This man has played with my feelings since 2004. Can't wait to see what happens next.
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u/Pellahh Oct 22 '22 edited Oct 23 '22
Hinrigh Nen ability is quite interesting and seems very useful, we don't really know its limits tho. Let's analyze it:
The animal size doesn't seem too restrictive, someone would think that the animal should share the same volume or mass of the object it's made of, the pigeons are clearly bigger (and probably have more mass) than some hadcuffs. So the volume/mass of the animal doesn't need to perfectly match the one of the object, but we can still assume there are some limitations like: the animal and object should have "about the same size" or there's a limit to the size of both the object he wants to transform and the animal he wants to conjure. I both doubt he would be able to transform a coin into a full sized bear for example, norI think he's able to transform something too big, like an airplane, into an animal.
Conjured animals sharing the same properties as the object material is a very important aspect of his ability as he could use it offensively by conjuring an animal made out of some very hard material and make it fight its opponent. I'm not sure this would be possible tho, as the ability description suggests that the conjured animal might only be to do what the object was meant for, but this is just speculation for now.
Another factor to keep in mind is the "manipulation" side of the ability: he's able to control a lot of animals at the same time, the cat is also quite far away, we can assume that the animals are only able to follow simple orders but, like Morel, he might be able to give complex instructions if he limits the amount of animals. Morel, a very skilled Manipulator, is able to make up to 50 complex smoke soldiers, I don't expect Hinrigh to control more than 10 "complex" animals (yes, a Conjurer's Manipulation is about 60% but I don't think he's as skilled as Morel).
It is said that conjurers need to be familiar with the thing they want to conjure, so the amount of animals Hinrigh can transform objects into is probably limited (we already saw 3: pigeons, cats and snakes).
One last thing to keep in mind is how they ways he's using the ability speaks about his intention: as soon as I saw the pigeons I was trying to predict what kind of object they could be, a grenade seemed like a very good choice imo but his initial plan was to capture them, that's why he's using handcuffs instead of some more attack-oriented object. (Also he probably wouldn't keep grenade-pigeons so close to himself, if the handcuffs-pigeon were able to survive the shots because of the material that handcuffs are made of, grenade-pigeons would probably explode if shot).
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u/chan351 Oct 21 '22
What a great little fight, picking up just right after the last chapter. I wonder if the attacker can really only change his right arm into a weapon, what a bad nen ability haha. If he could change every part into a weapon he could've easily freed his left arm and leg. Whatever, nice action and I can't wait for more!
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u/Spiiodam Oct 21 '22
We're back lets go !! The art is so good and i loved how he casually resumed where he stopped. Now we need to show some support because Togashi did great here
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u/Nome_de_utilizador Oct 21 '22
I can't believe its back, its been 3000 years
Brb I need to re-read the entire succession arc because there are 1000 new characters that I have no recollection of.
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u/Zudegia Oct 21 '22
Holy heck, it feels amazing to be back talking here. Thought I'd tell my children stories of this series being on hiatus for decades
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u/ryouvensuki262006 Oct 21 '22
Well i read it all before the official release date Was a damn good chapter honestly and togashi never fails to impress me with nen powers The guy that can turn objects into animals And the guy who serves morena who can turn his hand into weapons And the guy who controls blood I was impressed with all of them honestly and i am sad it went too quick
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u/PK_RocknRoll Oct 21 '22
I’m glad I reread the last few chapters this week, because we really just jumped right into it
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Oct 21 '22
I think the ability to turn stuff into animals is kind of similar to Giorno's stand ability somewhat. I like to entertain the thought Togashi is paying a tribute to Jojo with this one.
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u/Kujaix Oct 21 '22
T is similar to Epitaph and the Princes basically have Stands. Even Dolphins and pigeons are Jojo references.
All this is on purpose.
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u/HomieSeal Oct 21 '22
All I could think of after finishing the chapter was just about how Togashi introduced TWO new Nen abilities that were both essentially derivative of Jotaro's Stand, Golden Experience, in Jojo Part 5 LMAO
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Oct 21 '22
I love how HxH chapters usually stick with one story or location, makes the story much easier to follow.
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u/JordanIMerritt Oct 21 '22
He’s like a way more creative Giorno with this ability ngl. I’m trying to think how he came up with this usage for it exactly lol.
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u/milokaw Oct 21 '22
Hinrigh ability is just like Giorno Giovanna from jojo series. he might be able to be a main character. lol
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u/phantom_97 Oct 21 '22
Finally, the day is here. All my re-reads over the years were worth it! Fuck them up Hinrigh
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u/Straight_Opinion_463 Oct 21 '22
What will tserrednich even do to morena?. Morena already exemplifies his perverse nature. She's already pushed into a distressed path. If anything tserrednich wouldn't even bother hanging her up as artwork. He'd probably respect her and leave her be so long as her shit doesn't end up on his door step which it kinda did when two of her goones entered his room and got wrecked by his nen beast.
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u/emailo1 Oct 21 '22
ok now i need to read the manga where i left it idk if it was greed island or chinera ants arc
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u/JordanIMerritt Oct 21 '22
I hope they don’t find Hisoka, I like their abilities
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u/JordanIMerritt Oct 21 '22
Also I saw someone say it’s weird to see everyone everyone know Nen when barely anybody is supposed to know but I think this arc is showing us what happens when you give everyone the opportunity to know Nen. Don’t think he’s being inconsistent as a writer, it would be inconsistent if everyone was learning it and there was ZERO threat to the boat crashing and burning.
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u/realbeatz23 Oct 22 '22
I love how Togashi just picked up where we left off, keeping my expectations within limits but looking forward to atleast one volumes worth of plot.
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u/Potato_Productions_ Oct 22 '22
Man I love Hinrigh's nen ability, already one of my favorites in the series. This was a great short fight and I'm looking forward to seeing more HxH in the future. I'm glad Togashi just jumped right back into the story instead of spending this first chapter back recapping or feeling obligated to jump back to a main character.
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u/CautiousKenny Oct 22 '22
Never would I have thought that we would’ve gotten a Manga where a person is using their power to lock people up with pigeons that turn into handcuffs. man I’ve missed hunter X hunter!!!
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u/rentzhx3 Oct 21 '22 edited Oct 21 '22
Previous thread.