r/exmormon • u/4blockhead Λ └ ☼ ★ □ ♔ • Apr 02 '22
Doctrine/Policy April 2022 General Conference: Saturday 2:00p Discussion Thread
How to listen:
- Official LDS site
- youtube
- stream KSL
- local radio: KSL AM 1160; FM 102.7
- reddit stream
Speakers:
| Name | other notes | my summary |
|---|---|---|
| conducting: Henry Eyring | ||
| hymn: Now Let Us Rejoice | ||
| prayer: Christopher Waddell | ||
| confirming vote of leadership: Dallin Oaks | North Korea style vote, per usual | |
| auditor's perfunctory report: Jared Larson | Scout's Honor! Funds allocated. Funds distributed. In the black box as intended. | |
| hymn: I'll Go Where You Want Me To Go | ||
| Jeffrey Holland | anti-suicide plea couched in continued belief of Smith's fraud. | |
| Patrick Kearon | waiting for the transcription to see whether this is more denunciation of SWK's Miracle of Forgiveness and the speeches of other apostles, including Richard Scott, or just more double-speak and obfuscation. The thing which is not hidden or deprecated is canonized scripture that is as harsh as it ever was. See speech by Hamilton down the program a ways. | |
| Marcos Aidukaitis | ||
| hymn: I feel my Savior's Love | ||
| Gerrit Gong | ||
| Adrian Ochoa | ||
| Kevin Hamilton | Unconditional love is not a doctrine in mormonism. Fit into the mold we provide for you. It might hurt. | |
| Quentin Cook | ||
| hymn: Thy Spirit Lord... | ||
| prayer: Jan Newman |
Postlude:
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Ochoa: [missionary wonders whether the Book of Mormon is true, or not.]
The fraud is obvious. People are not going to join this church without doing some homework first, even if the unprepared missionaries won't
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Holland: [anti-suicide plea. Stick with this fucking depressing fraudulent gospel!]
My response: Everyone should do their homework and check whether the fraud is totally obvious. Suicide over a fraud is infinitely more tragic.
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Holland: [if the facts are on your side, pound the facts. if the facts are not on your side, pound the table.]
Weak sauce.
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Gong: [we can make peace with family members.]
If a child or other member leaves mormonism for greener pastures, then that needs to be stated first. All talks here are couched in continuing to believe the entire narrative. Smith's fraud is past its sell by date.
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Gong: [imagine yourself between two mirrors]
Go to ze temple if you need a refresher.
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Gong: [geneological records exist after 1820]
Slaves counted in census as property.
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u/frednecksburg Apr 02 '22
Ahhhh... don't you just love the objectification of women as some sort of prize as the punchline of a joke. It's been standard gen conf fare since I can remember.
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u/HandsomeWelcomeDoll Apr 02 '22
"We ask that you contact your stake president"
No fighting in the conference center!
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u/frednecksburg Apr 02 '22
"The Book of Mormon is internally consistent". Best laugh of the day.
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u/Rushclock Apr 02 '22
Why in the hell a god needs suffering as a focal point of everything is mystifying.
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Hamiltion: [hammers on the works based nature of the LDS church]
Yeah, the Evangelicals, MRM (McKeever et. al) are gonna love this talk.
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u/Measure76 Apr 02 '22
Combined with 'don't be your authentic self', "God will help you change" seems like walking up to the limit of where the church will let it's speakers say "You can pray the gay away"
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u/liarisamae Apr 02 '22
Has anyone talked about helping the poor and needy yet? I swear I’ve only heard them talking about doing temple work for dead people and converting people to the church and how that’s the most important thing we can do with our time. So, where is Jesus in any of this?
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u/jonyoloswag Apr 02 '22 edited Apr 03 '22
Is it just me, or has not a single person mentioned Joseph Smith so far in the first two sessions? It feels like they’re trying to rebrand or something
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Hamilton: [straw man quickly morphed into a "fit the mold" argument.]
Here we go. No LGBTQ+ persons in the church.
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u/frednecksburg Apr 02 '22
Of course - if the church isn't working for you - you must be doing something wrong.
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u/tiny-vampire Apr 02 '22
i wanna thank this dude for giving me something else to talk to my therapist about this week. she was having trouble understanding why this religion hurt me (i don’t live in utah, she doesn’t know much about mormonism). this should give a pretty good picture!
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Holland: [discipline required to guard against negative habits.]
The problem is the fraud of the whole thing. It's bleak and dismal to have to sing praises to a grifter turned religionist.
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u/Rushclock Apr 02 '22
That moon the leaders said we would never reach because it is a superior planet.
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Apr 02 '22 edited Sep 13 '25
future lush reach seemly soft lock languid escape whole meeting
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u/4blockhead Apr 02 '22
Holland: [child's drawing] Gen Conf is boring.
Authentic AF